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YMMV: Star Trek: Nemesis
  • Alternative Character Interpretation: Is Shinzon a power-hungry maniac who wants to carve his own place in history, or is he an angry, resentful, and bitter man lashing out at a universe that gave him such a terrible, violent life? It's possible that, beneath all his talk of conquest and liberating the Remans, he secretly just wants to destroy both the Romulans and the Federation in revenge for forcing him to be a pawn in their long conflict.
    • SF Debris has suggested that Shinzon's long string of idiotic decisions throughout the film, is that his already major inferiority complex towards Picard due to being a clone, leads him to subconsciously self-sabotage himself at every opportunity because he secretly wants to lose.
  • Awesome Music: Jerry Goldsmith is right in form in his final Star Trek film score, even if no one else is.
  • Big Lipped Alligator Moment: The car chase scene on the desert planet. The apparently xenophobic natives chasing them are never mentioned again, nor is the flagrant violation of the Prime Directive incurred by firing on them with energy weapons and flying spaceships in plain view.
    • Shinzon taking over Riker's body to rape Troi. An utterly tasteless moment that serves absolutely no purpose except Shinzon doing something villainous, like we couldn't tell he was the bad guy already.
      • Shinzon isn't taking over Riker's body, he's just mind-raping Troi. As far as purpose, Shinzon turns into a bit of a creeper when he meets Troi earlier in the film because as he says, he's never met a human woman. He's pretty obviously interested in her and it's not like he has any problem doing bad things.
  • Crowning Moment Of Awesome: Yes, the movie is mediocre at best, but the scene where Picard rams the Enterprise headfirst into Shinzon's ship is still unquestionably awesome.
    • Say what you will about the rest of the movie — and you can say a lot — but the starship combat in general was the most interesting, most involved, and most sensible in terms of execution since The Wrath of Khan. The transition to full-digital 3D allowed them to do a lot.
    • As well as escaping the Scimitar by flying a fighter through it. Actually, this movie could have been pretty good if it had had a bit more meat on its bones.
    • Also when Picard impales Shinzon on a pipe, Shinzon pulls himself down the length of it get close enough to Picard to wrap his hands around his neck. This is actually based on a classic painting.
      • Sadly the same move (classical allusions and all) was used in the final fight scene of The Fellowship of the Ring just a year earlier, making Nemesis look like a rip-off.
    • Troi gets a nice little moment turning the psychic link the Viceroy forced on her back against him.
  • Deader Than Disco: At the time it was released, many regarded this as an okayish film that had the bad luck to be released in perhaps the busiest holiday season of the modern era. Nowadays it tends to be considered the worst Star Trek film, or at least in a three-way tie with The Final Frontier and Insurrection for that dishonor.
  • Fashion-Victim Villain: Shinzon and the Remans.
  • Fight Scene Failure: Fans found the starship fight listed above to be boring and without tension. Four ships looping through empty space throwing little droplets of light at each other, taking forever to break through the Deflector Shields and start setting off the Explosive Instrumentation. That's very realistic... But it's also kind of boring. Tropes Are Not Bad!
    • Rather odd in that Shinzon's ship was established to have hundreds of fighters and attack drones onboard, which are never used in the fight. Justified in that the Scimitar cripples the Enterprise and the two Romulan warbirds while sustaining no damage whatsoever (and then the fighter bays are seen to be destroyed in the ensuing collision), but it doesn't help make the battle any more exciting.
    • SF Debris points out that in terms of sheer scale, the fight scenes are a failure; we've already seen epic space battles featuring hundreds of ships - on a TV budget, no less! - on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: The movie ends hinting at more positive relations between the Federation and the Romulans in the near future. But it never happens because the Romulus of this universe was canonically vaporized by a supernova in Star Trek, giving Nero the impetus to go back in time and screw around with the alternate universe of the Abrams films.
  • He's Just Hiding: Data again. This is pretty much canon now, with his resurrection being a plot point in the backstory for Star Trek.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: As SF Debris' review of the film lampshaded, one can't watch the opening and dramatic sweep over Romulan Senate Complex anymore without hearing the Oblivion theme blaring in the background.
  • Jerkass Woobie: Shinzon is hardly a pleasant fellow, though there's no denying that his life has sucked.
  • Memetic Mutation: In an unusual example, this happened to a line that never actually made it to the final movie. When Riker kicked the Viceroy to his death, he was scripted to quip "Don't worry, hell is dark!" The script was leaked on to the internet however, and the line was mercilessly lampooned by Trekkies, which — along with Jonathan Frakes objecting on the basis that it looked like Riker was killing the Viceroy for the fun of it - resulted in the line being quietly dropped. It's somewhat strange, considering in actual context he's getting revenge on his wife's rapist, so it probably would've been well-received if it had been left out of the trailer.
  • Misblamed: To an extent. The film is generally considered to be a (temporary) Franchise Killer for Star Trek, but the truth is that the franchise had been in decline for several years before hand; though not nearly as bad, Insurrection was also poorly received. Of course, this movie's unpopularity certainly didn't help things. Plus it's widely thought that it would have at least earned back its budget like Insurrection had, if not for the fact that it was released in the same week as The Two Towers.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Shinzon went from "Attempt to make a TNG version of Khan" to "complete and utter dickwad when he mind raped Troi as she was having sex with Riker. He does this just to get rid of his sexual frustration and to scare Troi, and the writers use this to try and prove that he still is capable of evil. This just went too freaking far.
  • Narm: The pathetic attempt to convince us Shinzon is Picard's clone with a picture of Tom Hardy as a young Picard. Especially since the series had established several times that Picard had hair back then.
  • Never Live It Down: Will forever be known as the Star Trek film outperformed in its opening week by mediocre J-Lo comedy Maid In Manhattan (and then utterly annihilated by The Two Towers a few days after that). Averted in one sense however, as people largely forget that its second week box office drop-off was the biggest ever for a major release percentage-wise... mostly because Hulk and then Gigli took over that title the following summer.
  • Recycled Script: The death of Data tries and fails to mirror a similar moment in Wrath of Khan. Hell, even the main villain feels like a poor man's Khan.
    • Picard beaming over alone to the enemy ship to confront the cheesy villain and blow up the Applied Phlebotinum of Doom sure sounds familiar...
      • In all of the TNG movies, it's often Picard who goes alone to confront the villain (aside from Generations, where he gets royally schooled before recruiting Kirk to help him).
  • Sequelitis: The failure of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier previously threatened to put an end to the Trek films, but Nemesis made good upon that threat.
  • Special Effect Failure: The overall standard of special effects is better than in the previous movie, but some of the CGI (especially the model texturing) is awful, especially if you're watching on Blu-ray.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: You know, even with the Ass Pull involved in the Remans being Nosferatu knockoffs and Shinzon and Picard being related, there were still seeds of a neat plot in there (that dinner scene isn't half bad). And the concept behind B4 isn't really too out there, since Dr. Soong did say prototypes existed prior to Data & Lore. And hey, the starship fights are pretty rad. But mash them together nonsensically, and throw in random car chases, and... well...
    • Not to mention that this was supposed to be the first Trek film to truly feature the Romulans, after being in the background through previous films (they almost were the Big Bad of Star Trek III). But they're barely in it. Fortunately, the next Trek movie would show how badass the Romulans are.
    • Imagine if the final TNG film had focused on resolving the Romulan cold war which had simmered in the background of all seven seasons of the show?
  • Took the Bad Film Seriously: Tom Hardy is actually pretty decent; him and Patrick Stewart make the one-on-one scenes between Shinzon and Picard watchable, at least.
    • In an interview given years after the film came out, Hardy said that he took the film role very seriously, as it was intended to be his big break. The commercial failure of the film and the response from longtime fans apparently led to his relationship dissolving, his turning to alcohol, and considering suicide. It was only when he pulled himself together and starred in Bronson that he got over the film (and we all know the rest).
  • Vindicated by History: It is still considered one of the worst Star Trek films by the majority of fans however it has seen an unexpected re-evaluation by those who hate the Abrams film series enough to class it Fanon Discontinuity.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: The ramming of the two ships was actually done with physical models, not CGI.
  • What The Hell, Casting Agency?: No mean to rank on Tom Hardy who gave an okay performance, but for someone who's supposed to be a clone of Picard, he and Patrick Stewart look nothing alike!
    • Slightly handwaved in the dinner scene and the novelization, where Shinzon explains that his face is different from Picard's due to being beaten in the dilythium mines many, many times. Essentially, he experienced a childhood of abuse, where Picard didn't.

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