Website / is a Star Wars vs Star Trek website started in 1998 by a Canadian engineer named Mike Wong (forum handle "Darth Wong"). Compares the strengths and weaknesses of both franchises, examining them with real science. The site has been inactive for some time, but the forum is still active. Also the source of the Trek/Wars fic Conquest.

Provides examples of:

  • Arch-Enemy: For a while, it had something like this going on with
  • Alternate Character Interpretationinvoked: Wong argues that the Federation is actually an oppressively conformist, communist dystopia [1]. Not to mention brainwashing, hypocritical, progress stifling and ignoring its people's safety.
  • Caustic Critic: Many of them.
  • Cavemen vs. Astronauts Debate/Hypothetical Fight Debate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Star Destroyer of course.
  • Cloud Cuckoo Lander: Shroom Man 777, label: FUCKIN' DICK STABBER. Location: Bleeding breasts and stabbing dicks since 2003. Alternates between making perfect (if frenzied) sense and utter lunacy with little to no middle ground.
  • Cluster F-Bomb: Site rules allow profanity, and many forumgoers are all too happy to take full advantage.
  • *Cough* Snark *Cough*: In an analysis thread of the Star Carrier series:
    StarSword: Also, William Keith apparently groks the concept that space is fucking HUGE, unlike certain other recent writers I could mention. *hacking cough that sounds suspiciously like "J. J. Abrams"*
  • Deadpan Snarker: Half the site's population, seriously. They never miss a chance to poke fun at each other.
  • Deconstruction: They poke holes in the Federation utopia idea, and Mike Wong writes at length about how the small towns he's lived in are not the idyllic paradises the movies portray them as.
  • Fan Fic: Has an entire subsection dedicated to them, and hosts a few notable fics. For example: Once More with Feeling and Thousand Shinji.
  • Fight Unscene: Lampshaded in the "recapture colony" scenario.
  • Fun with Acronyms: The sex&rel forum is titled Adult Relationships & Sex Education.
  • Hate Fic: Michael Wong claims to love Star Trek, but seems to find a lot of pleasure in pointing out the flaws and problems of the supposedly perfect TNG era Federation.
  • Kangaroo Court: The moderators sometimes write one up for people who are to be banned from the forum. This is mostly for the entertainment value: if you're getting one, the moderators and admins have already decided among themselves that you're going to be banned for violating forum rules (and the "trial record" will contain links to the offending posts).
  • Lame Pun Reaction: In a topic titled "Two words: Dancing tanks."
    Borgholio: Tanks for showing us this.
    Flagg: You're a dead man.
    • Then the thread turned into a Hurricane of Puns on the word "tank" with Flagg continuing to threaten bodily harm against all involved.
  • Logical Fallacies: The main site has an essay on several of the most common ones, and the forum has a rule against using them.
  • Network Decay: Qualifies for Slipped. The main site is still focused on Wars v. Trek, but that matchup is currently a sub-sub-forum on the boards. Stylistically it's the same as it always was (substance over style), but the content has expanded to everything from technical and physics breakdowns of the latest 40k novel to exchanging recipes.
  • Parental Marriage Veto: Happened to the Site Owner. Part of the reason he dislikes religion.
  • Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny:
  • Unacceptable Targets: invoked Board rules draw a distinction between insulting a moderator in a debate as part of an argument and insulting a moderator for acting as a moderator. The one is permissible (the moderators are just as willing to cuss at you as anyone else, and board culture and rules favor substance over style, or as they put it "an insulting argument is still an argument"). The other is potentially a bannable offense.
    • While insults on the boards are mostly accepted, Mike Wong feels part of the fun is breaking from acting mature, the usage of homophobic and racial slurs is considered to cross the line and can get someone banned.
  • Your Magic's No Good Here: Site rules for versus debates avert this: each side's phlebotinum is decreed to work just as well in the other side's setting as it does in their own.