History YMMV / StarTrekNemesis

7th Oct '17 9:08:13 AM OlfinBedwere
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* ProtectionFromEditors: One of the main reasons why the film turned out the way it did. Screenwriter John Logan was given a "no rewrites" clause in his contract, something that writers frequently insist upon but are almost never granted, and director Stuart Baird's unfamiliarity with the franchise meant that he wasn't inclined to ask Logan to tweak the script. Notably, one of the key changes to the script -- the ''Scimitar'' initially having its warp core on the bridge, which was changed in the final version to the Thaleron generator being located in a small chamber behind it -- was done at the insistence of technical consultant Rick Sternbach, rather than Baird or producer Rick Berman.
20th Sep '17 3:26:48 PM KneadToKnow
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* {{Fanon}}: Many fans (And detractors of [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]) subscribe to the theory that Janeway was ''forced'' to become an admiral, after her last command got her ship stranded in strange and hostile space for years.

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* {{Fanon}}: Many fans (And detractors of [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]) subscribe to the theory that Janeway was [[KickedUpstairs ''forced'' to become an admiral, admiral]], after her last command got her ship stranded in strange and hostile space for years.
20th Aug '17 3:28:17 AM OlfinBedwere
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* SpecialEffectFailure: The overall standard of special effects is better than in the previous movie, but some of the CGI (especially the model texturing) is awful, especially if you're watching on UsefulNotes/BluRay.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: The overall standard of special effects is better than in the previous movie, but some of the CGI (especially the model texturing) is awful, especially if you're watching on UsefulNotes/BluRay. The portable Thaleron device that Tal'aura uses to wipe out the Romulan Senate stands out, looking hardly any better than what you might have seen on a contemporary episode of ''Enterprise''.
25th Jun '17 11:51:18 AM Scifimaster92
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* DeaderThanDisco: At the time it was released, many regarded this as an okayish film that had the bad luck to be released in perhaps the busiest holiday season of the modern era. Nowadays it tends to be considered the worst ''Star Trek'' film, or at least in a four-way tie with ''[[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier The Final Frontier]]'', ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'', and ''[[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture The Motion Picture]]'' for that dishonor; it's also the most damaging of the ''Star Trek'' failures and has earned [[CreatorBacklash unbridled hatred]] from [[FourIsDeath four]] of its cast members.
12th Jun '17 1:04:39 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Shinzon {{Mind Rap|e}}ing Troi. An utterly tasteless moment that serves absolutely no purpose except Shinzon [[ForTheEvulz doing something villainous]], like we couldn't tell he was the bad guy already. Add to it that the timing is particularly bizarre given that he only has literally hours left to live and is apparently taking a break from curing himself in favor of being eeeeevil.

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** Shinzon {{Mind Rap|e}}ing Troi. An utterly tasteless moment that serves absolutely no purpose except Shinzon [[ForTheEvulz doing something villainous]], like we couldn't tell he was the bad guy already. Add to it that the timing is particularly bizarre given that he Shinzon only has literally hours left to live and is apparently only taking a this break from curing himself in favor of being eeeeevil.
12th Jun '17 1:03:58 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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** Shinzon taking over Riker's body to rape Troi. An utterly tasteless moment that serves absolutely no purpose except Shinzon [[ForTheEvulz doing something villainous]], like we couldn't tell he was the bad guy already.
*** But it ''does'' serve a purpose: it sets up a ChekhovsGun for the scene later where she uses her telepathy to turn it back on him.
*** Shinzon isn't taking over Riker's body, he's just [[MindRape mind-raping]] Troi. As far as purpose, Shinzon turns into a bit of a creeper when he meets Troi earlier in the film because as he says, he's never met a human woman. He's pretty obviously interested in her and it's not like he has any problem doing bad things.
*** Unfortunately, a DeletedScene had Shinzon... invading Deanna's personal space in the turbo-lift. One scene of Shinzon's attempted rape of Deanna made it too much of an obvious Chekhov's gun. More scenes of his harassing her would have made the final turnaround stronger.
*** The timing is particularly bizarre given that he only has literally hours left to live and is apparently taking a break from curing himself in favor of being eeeeevil.

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** Shinzon taking over Riker's body to rape {{Mind Rap|e}}ing Troi. An utterly tasteless moment that serves absolutely no purpose except Shinzon [[ForTheEvulz doing something villainous]], like we couldn't tell he was the bad guy already.
*** But
already. Add to it ''does'' serve a purpose: it sets up a ChekhovsGun for that the scene later where she uses her telepathy to turn it back on him.
*** Shinzon isn't taking over Riker's body, he's just [[MindRape mind-raping]] Troi. As far as purpose, Shinzon turns into a bit of a creeper when he meets Troi earlier in the film because as he says, he's never met a human woman. He's pretty obviously interested in her and it's not like he has any problem doing bad things.
*** Unfortunately, a DeletedScene had Shinzon... invading Deanna's personal space in the turbo-lift. One scene of Shinzon's attempted rape of Deanna made it too much of an obvious Chekhov's gun. More scenes of his harassing her would have made the final turnaround stronger.
*** The
timing is particularly bizarre given that he only has literally hours left to live and is apparently taking a break from curing himself in favor of being eeeeevil.
20th May '17 12:34:40 PM Premonition45
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The failure of ''Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier'' previously threatened to put an end to the Trek films, but ''Nemesis'' made good upon that threat (at least for the ''TNG'' cast).

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The financial failure of ''Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier'' previously threatened to put an end to the Trek films, but ''Nemesis'' made good upon that threat (at least for the ''TNG'' cast).
19th May '17 3:28:56 PM thatsnumberwang
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** Not more really needs to be said about the Scorpion attack fighters other than ''why even introduce them if you have no plans to actually use them?'' And what makes this worse is that they had two perfect opportunities for a dog fight what with the Romulans coming to their aid and the Federation fleet being just outside of the nebula.
29th Apr '17 9:32:18 PM DaFlabbagasta
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* DeaderThanDisco: At the time it was released, many regarded this as an okayish film that had the bad luck to be released in perhaps the busiest holiday season of the modern era. Nowadays it tends to be considered the worst ''Star Trek'' film, or at least in a four-way tie with ''[[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier The Final Frontier]]'', ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'', and ''[[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness Into Darkness]]'' for that dishonor; it's also the most damaging of the ''Star Trek'' failures and has earned [[CreatorBacklash unbridled hatred]] from [[FourIsDeath four]] of its cast members.

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* DeaderThanDisco: At the time it was released, many regarded this as an okayish film that had the bad luck to be released in perhaps the busiest holiday season of the modern era. Nowadays it tends to be considered the worst ''Star Trek'' film, or at least in a four-way tie with ''[[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier The Final Frontier]]'', ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'', and ''[[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness Into Darkness]]'' ''[[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture The Motion Picture]]'' for that dishonor; it's also the most damaging of the ''Star Trek'' failures and has earned [[CreatorBacklash unbridled hatred]] from [[FourIsDeath four]] of its cast members.
5th Apr '17 10:10:57 PM Premonition45
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* DeaderThanDisco: At the time it was released, many regarded this as an okayish film that had the bad luck to be released in perhaps the busiest holiday season of the modern era. Nowadays it tends to be considered the worst ''Star Trek'' film, or at least in a three-way tie with ''[[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier The Final Frontier]]'' and ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'' for that dishonor; it's also the most damaging of the ''Star Trek'' failures and has earned [[CreatorBacklash unbridled hatred]] from [[FourIsDeath four]] of its cast members.

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* DeaderThanDisco: At the time it was released, many regarded this as an okayish film that had the bad luck to be released in perhaps the busiest holiday season of the modern era. Nowadays it tends to be considered the worst ''Star Trek'' film, or at least in a three-way four-way tie with ''[[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier The Final Frontier]]'' and Frontier]]'', ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'' Insurrection]]'', and ''[[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness Into Darkness]]'' for that dishonor; it's also the most damaging of the ''Star Trek'' failures and has earned [[CreatorBacklash unbridled hatred]] from [[FourIsDeath four]] of its cast members.
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