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17th May '16 2:24:55 PM Conhale
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** Possibly overlapping with WTHCastingAgency, but many believe Cmdr Sela from TNG would have been a better character choice than Cmdr Donatra, providing closure to another recurring character.
25th Apr '16 6:27:59 PM Toadofsteel
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Ironically, one of the least-watched ''Franchise/StarTrek'' films of all time is also the movie that introduced most of the United States to Creator/TomHardy, who would ultimately become one of the most recognizable actors of TheNewTens.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Ironically, one of the least-watched ''Franchise/StarTrek'' films of all time is also the movie that introduced most of the United States to Creator/TomHardy, who would ultimately become one of the most recognizable actors of TheNewTens. (Not that this film helped any, if anything Hardy would have been a household name much earlier than 2010 had this film not flopped the way it did.)
25th Apr '16 6:25:47 PM Toadofsteel
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** This takes us to another case of this trope. Many, including Berman himself, have tended to blame this film's massive financial failure on''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRings The Two Towers]]''. While this did not help, and it's true that the two films share some overlap in demographics the fact remains that a strong movie will be able to withstand another big release the following week. Other Star Trek movies have had to face some extremely stiff competition but all did much better than this one. What Berman and co. tend to gloss over is that this movie also lost to the Jennifer Lopez comedy ''Film/MaidInManhattan'' and then dropped 76.2% on its second week to ''eighth place'' (one of the largest drops ever for a major release). Stiff competition, as well as bad word of mouth and lack of interest is what ultimately sealed this movie's fate.

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** This takes us to another case of this trope. Many, including Berman himself, have tended to blame this film's massive financial failure on''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRings The Two Towers]]''. While this did not help, and it's true that the two films share some overlap in demographics the fact remains that a strong movie will be able to withstand another big release the following week. Other Star Trek movies have had to face some extremely stiff competition but all did much better than this one.one (For example, ''StarTrekFirstContact'' released the same year as ''IndependenceDay'', and fared extremely well despite featuring one of the same [[BrentSpiner starring actors]]). What Berman and co. tend to gloss over is that this movie also lost to the Jennifer Lopez comedy ''Film/MaidInManhattan'' and then dropped 76.2% on its second week to ''eighth place'' (one of the largest drops ever for a major release). Stiff competition, as well as bad word of mouth and lack of interest is what ultimately sealed this movie's fate.
4th Mar '16 1:25:07 PM OlfinBedwere
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* TaintedByThePreview: The screenplay was mercilessly mocked on the Internet when it was leaked before the film's release.

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* TaintedByThePreview: The screenplay was mercilessly mocked on the Internet when it was leaked before the film's release. The film's trailers, while not terrible by themselves, just helped make things worse, as they confirmed that the script had survived mostly unaltered to the final product.
28th Feb '16 5:57:24 PM jameygamer
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* DeaderThanDisco: At the time it was released, many regarded this as an okayish film that had the bad luck to be released in perhaps the busiest holiday season of the modern era. Nowadays it tends to be considered the worst ''Star Trek'' film, or at least in a three-way tie with ''[[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier The Final Frontier]]'' and ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'' for that dishonor.

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* DeaderThanDisco: At the time it was released, many regarded this as an okayish film that had the bad luck to be released in perhaps the busiest holiday season of the modern era. Nowadays it tends to be considered the worst ''Star Trek'' film, or at least in a three-way tie with ''[[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier The Final Frontier]]'' and ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]'' for that dishonor.dishonor; it's also the most damaging of the ''Star Trek'' failures and has earned [[CreatorBacklash unbridled hatred]] from [[FourIsDeath four]] of its cast members.
15th Feb '16 11:12:40 PM Troper251
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*** The car chase was derided for being out of place in a Star Trek film. Fourteen years later, and the trailer for StarTrekBeyond is pounded for - among other things - having Captain Kirk ride a 20th century dirt bike around on an alien planet.
24th Jan '16 4:07:17 PM jameygamer
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* MoralEventHorizon: Shinzon went from "Attempt to make a ''TNG'' version of [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Khan]]" to "complete and utter [[JerkAss dickwad]] when he mind raped Troi as she was having sex with Riker. He does this just to get rid of his sexual frustration and to scare Troi, and the writers use this to try and prove that he still is capable of evil. This just went too freaking far.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Shinzon went from "Attempt to make a ''TNG'' version of [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Khan]]" to "complete and utter [[JerkAss dickwad]] dickwad]]" when he mind raped Troi as she was having sex with Riker. He does this just to get rid of his sexual frustration and to scare Troi, and the writers use this to try and prove that he still is capable of evil. [[JumpingTheShark This just went too freaking far.]]
9th Jan '16 5:23:38 PM mlsmithca
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* ParvumOpus: One of the contenders for this in the ''Star Trek'' franchise.



*** In all of the ''TNG'' movies, it's often Picard who goes alone to confront the villain (aside from ''Generations'', where he gets royally schooled before recruiting Kirk to help him).

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*** ** In all of the ''TNG'' movies, it's often Picard who goes alone to confront the villain (aside from ''Generations'', where he gets royally schooled before recruiting Kirk to help him).
1st Jan '16 3:24:08 PM Premonition45
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** The ''Film/MadMax''-esque car chase sequence has gotten funnier since Hardy played Max in ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad''.

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** The ''Film/MadMax''-esque car chase sequence has gotten funnier since Hardy Creator/TomHardy eventually played Max in ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad''.
19th Dec '15 7:37:25 PM jameygamer
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*** Unfortunately, a DeletedScene had Shinzon... invading Deanne's personal space in the turbo-lift. One scene of Shinzon's attempted rape of Deanna made it too much of an obvious Chekhov's gun. More scenes of his harrassing her would have made the final turnaround stronger.

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*** Unfortunately, a DeletedScene had Shinzon... invading Deanne's personal space in the turbo-lift. One scene of Shinzon's attempted rape of Deanna made it too much of an obvious Chekhov's gun. More scenes of his harrassing harassing her would have made the final turnaround stronger.



* MoralEventHorizon: Shinzon went from "Attempt to make a TNG version of [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Khan]]" to "complete and utter [[JerkAss dickwad]] when he mind raped Troi as she was having sex with Riker. He does this just to get rid of his sexual frustration and to scare Troi, and the writers use this to try and prove that he still is capable of evil. This just went too freaking far.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Shinzon went from "Attempt to make a TNG ''TNG'' version of [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Khan]]" to "complete and utter [[JerkAss dickwad]] when he mind raped Troi as she was having sex with Riker. He does this just to get rid of his sexual frustration and to scare Troi, and the writers use this to try and prove that he still is capable of evil. This just went too freaking far.



*** In all of the TNG movies, it's often Picard who goes alone to confront the villain (aside from ''Generations'', where he gets royally schooled before recruiting Kirk to help him).

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*** In all of the TNG ''TNG'' movies, it's often Picard who goes alone to confront the villain (aside from ''Generations'', where he gets royally schooled before recruiting Kirk to help him).
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