YMMV / Extra Credits

  • Anvilicious: The final episode and "Lies" segment of the "Brothers Gracchi" series struck many as this, mostly for its strained attempts to use the history of the Gracchi and the Roman Republic as a mirror and lens for contemporary politics, turning people off an otherwise well-received series.
  • Awesome Music: Most of the original compositions used in Extra History, especially Admiral Yi.
  • Broken Base:
    • "God Does Not Play Dice". For some people, it fixed the "science is based on faith" point described in their "Religon In Games" videos. For others, it just made it much worse.
    • The Call of Juarez: The Cartel and The Division - Problematic Meaning in Mechanics videos were bound to get this reaction. Are Dan and James rightfully pointing out poorly thought-out and legitimately offensive content or is it Political Correctness Gone Mad?
  • Critical Research Failure:
    • This one of the reasons they trashed Call of Juarez: The Cartel so much: the game's developers did not do very much research on the subject they were making a game out of, and, considering the subject sees a lot of real people dead every year, really riled up the Extra Credits team.
    • That said, they have made a few of these themselves and usually get called out on the YouTube comments section. Especially in their episode where they praise Atlus for writing Kanji Tatsumi as gay, completely missing the entire point of Kanji's Shadow and treating it as though Kanji's character arc was all about him being a closeted gay man, while in reality, Kanji's arc was about going against what society views as "manly" and accepting himself for liking things that are different.
    • Perhaps the biggest is in their transgaming episode where they say that the Pokémon anime acts as a tutorial for the games and even claim Pokémon in the show function the same as in the games. If you said this to anyone who both plays the games and watches the show, you'd most likely get a look of confusion since the show regularly ignored the game rules to better fit the narrative as early as the Kanto arc. It might be true in a very general sense (weakening Pokémon to catch with the ball, utilizing Elemental Rock–Paper–Scissors), but hardly fits in the specific implementations.
    • That said, Extra Credits actually encourage people calling them out on such inconsistencies, and have made a few episodes apologizing for research failures (most noticeable in the Extra History segments). However they uphold their actions, as they are pleased to see people willing to do the research to prove them wrong, which is the entire point of their videos as springboards for exploration, rather than a bible to live by.
    • While some aspects of the Extra History videos retain accuracy, some videos have elements either thrown in for narrative reasons (often discussed in the Lies videos) or just outright misinformed:
      • Their "Battle of Kursk" episodes (especially Part 1 and Part 3) have received criticism similar to Company of Heroes for likening Stalin's USSR to a potential Axis member which any neutral student of World War II would consider laughablenote .
      • In a similar circumstance, the "Battle of Britain" episode used much older information that suggested the UK was on the verge of collapse when aerial campaigns against the populace galvanized them and turned the situation around. In reality, the results were much less close. note 
      • In their "Sack of Lindisfarne" segment, they claim the Viking Age marked "the first time since the Fall of Rome [that] Christendom would contract", nevermind the early Muslim conquests that'd overrun the Christian-ruled territories of the Holy Land, Syria, Armenia, Egypt, North Africa, Iberia, and (briefly) part of southern France in the previous two centuries, not to mention the fact that Britain itself had to be re-Christianized by St. Augustine of Canterbury more than a century after the Fall of Rome.
      • While they admit to conjecture in their segment on the Collapse of the Carolingian Empire, a couple mistakes still stand out:
      • The episode is predicated on the misguided implication that Louis the Pious foolishly and arbitrarily divided his empire among his three sons and thereby set the stage for a millennium of Franco-German conflict in an Anvilicious Does This Remind You of Anything? of the Treaty of Westphalia or the Sykes-Picot Agreement. In reality, however, the borders they show only coalesced after Louis the Pious' death when his two younger sons, Charles and Louis, joined forces against their elder brother Emperor Lothar in a bloody Civil War that succeeded in carving off the (existing) Frankish and Teutonic halves for Charles and Louis but didn't completely destroy Lothar, who kept the leftovers. Thus Middle Francia didn't cause conflict by being "haphazard" (as it's described half-a-dozen times) but rather was made haphazard by conflict.
      • They note that, "We often criticize primogeniture as it [...] leaves women out entirely". Technically, primogeniture only denotes preference by birth order while gender is a separate set of criteria. The British monarchy, for instance, recently adopted "absolute primogeniture", which favours the first-born child regardless of gender.
    • Their "Perversion Subversion - Examining Hentai Sensibility" video was criticised for misusing the term "subvert" (even referencing this very site) and taking scenes from Persona 5 out of context.
    • One of their defenses of loot boxes is one shared by the industry: that they aren't legally gambling because you can't cash out the rewards you get from them. This hasn't stopped people making real money off of the random rewards, like in this case where a gun skin went for around $61,000.
  • Designated Hero: Their series on Catherine the Great concludes that "She cannot be called anything but the Great" but their own content paints her as a Hypocrite who failed to live up to the ideals of her youth and actually set back the cause of reform, whose avarice for imperialism and land-grabbing ended up causing serious problems for Poland and issues that haunt Russia into the 21st Century, and who even failed to properly manage an able successor. Their portrayal is more of an Affably Evil Tragic Villain who had a Corrupt the Cutie arc rather than a Tragic Hero.
  • Face of the Band: Daniel, who edits the script and records all the dialogue, and James, the scriptwriter who's generally seen as the intellectual center of the group, tend to be the two most recognizable members of the team, a fact mocked in the making of feature shown at PAX.
  • Genius Bonus:
    • The D-Day Extra History episode showing La Résistance has a character identified as De Gaulle's main associate co-ordinating resistance groups in France. He isn't identified by name, but the character model has a trenchcoat with the initials JM, indicating that he is Jean Moulin.
    • Part 2 of "The Bronze Age Collapse" has a cartoon of a barbarian soldier mouthing "Bar—Bar—Bar". This is in fact the true origin of the word. The Athenians used the word "barbarian" as their pejorative for Funny Foreigners whose language sounded like Black Speech to them.
  • Growing the Beard: The first few months of the show's run on The Escapist saw an improvement in quality and a shift in primary tone from humorous to heartwarming.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: In an episode discussing the Six Days in Fallujah controversy, they said that Konami isn't dumb and doesn't publish games on whims while displaying a cartoon of a Konami executive accepting and rejecting proposed projects without proper consideration to show how absurd it would be for Konami to operate like that. Yeah, about that...
  • Ho Yay: In the first episode detailing Justinian and Theodora for Extra History, Dan is shown sheepishly looking at a picture of the emperor with hearts around his head, and X's and O's on the picture.
  • Internet Backdraft:
    • Inadvertent example from the "faith in games" debacle: asserting that science sometimes has to rely on hypotheses that haven't been fully proven is fine. Expressing that in the form "science is based on faith" might be seen as confusing and is somewhat inflammatory given the many connotations and associations of the word "faith". Then the clarification video God Does Not Play Dice explained that they really did mean that it was the same thing as religious faith and didn't see what all the fuss was about.
    • In the "A Question Of Empathy" episode, they mention an example that involved James playing a game where he had to make a very tough decision where the character he was playing as could stop a soldier from raping a civilian, but this could mean that the character's family would starve if his character got killed in the process (as he only had a shovel with him). The example had a "Trigger Warning" label that showed up for only half a second (since the example involved rape, which is obviously a sensitive subject). Looking at the Youtube comments, it seems that the only thing people cared about was their decision to have a "Trigger Warning" label and proclaiming that they're now pandering to Social Justice Warriors and Tumblrites, while literally everything else in the episode is outright ignored.
    • In their video discussing the Video-Game Movies Suck trope, their labeling Hook as an example of an idea that sounds good on paper but is crummy when executed left lots of people upset. A good deal of this blame focused on Bob Chipman rather than the team, though, as he was the one who wrote the episode and has a history of contentious opinions.
    • In a number of videos, especially pertaining to JRPG's, the team either implicitly or explicitly say that turn-based menu combat is inherently uninteresting or unengaging, with some people getting the implication that "JRPG's should stop using turn-based systems altogether and double down on their real-time branch". This obviously didn't sit well with turn-based JRPG fans who criticized EC for presenting this at face value as some obvious thing they should accept instead of just Dan/James'/whoever's personal preference.
    • Their video of how games should not cost 60$ anymore caused quite the backlash from both viewers and content creators, both big and small, often calling EC's argument poorly researched at best and heavily biased or deliberately misleading at worst. Some felt that the videos even tried to guilt-sling viewers. And this was right after a massive gaming controversy resulting from the greed of publishers. This lead to many picking apart everything about the episode. Even Jim Sterling got in on it (at first unintentionally). In short, Extra Credits gets endlessly called out on for trying to sidestep such a serious issue with such a shaky argument when all evidence points to the contrary.
  • Memetic Badass: Scott, for making hilarious but insightful PAX panel videos all by himself 3 years in a row, and destroying the entire Extra Credits staff in the 8-Player Extra Credits Staff Brawl.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "It was Walpole." note  Later episodes of Extra Credits often feature Walpole in The Cameo role. And when something just miraculously goes the way someone wants it to, such as Belisarius's conquering of Rome, a picture of Walpole often shows up.
    • "Why let X get in the way of a good crusade?"
    • "Bismarck had a plan. Bismarck always had a plan."
    • From the Danelaw video: "And oh hey what up y'all it's GUTHRUM!"
  • Nightmare Fuel:
    • Missile Command apparently was this to its creator for years, and Dan's own description managed to make an innocent arcade game seem intense and horrific.
    • James' description of his breakdown over game compulsion quickly descends into this.
    • The Actions creature from the episode on Propaganda Games can be rather disconcerting, particularly in one close up where it says "Good job, kid."
    • In "Symbolism 101" while describing "the uncanny", there's a picture of Allison hunting a deer with its head hidden from the audience. When it lifts its head, its face turns out to be something straight out of The Last of Us. With horrific detail.
    • Dan's explanation of the true definition of horror in "Where Did Survival Horror Go?" is rather chilling.
    "Horror is about human psychology. It's about understanding those primal fears that have tormented mankind since its early history. Horror is about the irrational, and the breakdown of our modern faith in logic and the fundamental order of the world. Horror is about all those things which drive us toward our darker impulses, and justify our most bestial actions. Horror is about hopelessness and facing things so unimaginably greater than ourselves, that for all of our self-importance, and assurance of our place in the universe, we're nothing before them."
    • Shaka Zulu captures his enemy's mother, tosses her in a locked hunt with jackals and wolves — then burns the hut after a day. Brutal.
    • Cholera becomes this in "The Broad Street Pump" series in Extra History. The description of this disease, the conditions that caused it, and the fact that medical knowledge at the time was ineffectual at treating it. This crosses into Nausea Fuel as well.
    • Sesame Credit, an upcoming social platform by the Chinese government that rewards users with gifts and discounts for being good patriotic citizens while punishing users who aren't. The way it secretly controls the masses is very similar to 1984.
    • If you thought cholera was frightening, the Plague of Justinian in the "Theodora - X: This is My Empire" episode makes it look practically harmless. Particularly chilling are the descriptions of those who fell into comas and starved to death if no one was there to help them, people shoving corpses into mass graves and guard towers, and ships filled with plague-ridden corpses that carried their grim cargo to other shores.
    • In "Because Games Matter: How Video Games Saved my Life", the description of Zhenghua Yang (also known as Z)'s illness. A nosebleed that lasts fourteen hours? Kind of unsettling, but not too bad. When he went to the ER the next day, he found that his platelet counts were at one tenth of one percent of normal levels and still dropping. He began spontaneously bleeding from his body and forming bruises, even passing out from blood loss. When he came to, a nurse told him he was going to die in a few hours and handed him his will. And the worst part? The doctors had no idea what was causing it. In the comments, Z revealed he had a rare autoimmune disease that caused his white blood cells to attack his platelets.
    • Everything about the Battle of the Denmark Strait in Part 2 of their "Hunt the Bismarck" series. From the search for the Bismark in the foggy weather and the ensuing desperate battle, to the destruction of the Hood, to the hit on the Prince of Wales bridge. Particularly the part where the Wales' navigation officer attempts to raise the bridge above to ask if everyone's alright, only to get blood dripping through the voice pipe as a response.
  • Network Decay:The focus away from gaming subjects and changing their slogan from 'Because Games Matter to 'Because Learning Matters'is a clear indicator to some fans they've undergone a certain amount of decay as a result of branching out to explore other subjects
  • Sequel Displacement: Gradually, the Extra History videos have crept above Extra Credits in terms of viewership, with Extra History episodes now receiving 2-3 times the views of the preceding Extra Credits video. This trend is only bucked when a particular Extra Credits episode handles more controversial or recent topics.
  • Ugly Cute:
    • Micro-Transactions Raptor: represents an arguably ugly practice of the industry but still, it's a cute little blue feathered raptor!
    • The nascent AI from "The Singularity". A concept that terrifies many people who consider it, but it's so cute!
  • Values Dissonance:
    • A mild example, but their episode on game ratings pertains entirely to America's ESRB. Game ratings work very differently in most other countries, so viewers outside the US will likely find the episode very confusing.
    • Also mildly so, but there are people who argue their point of view tends to be a bit Americentric. Which normally isn't much of an issue since they speak from their own experience and make a conscious effort to avoid falling into that trap... but they still fall in it from time to time when they discuss other countries and cultures.
      • For example, in "The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Best Detective Game Ever Made", they describe the game's narrative as a (successful) attempt at adapting the American Hardboiled Detective genre to video games. The problem is that, even though that interpretation is well-reasoned and may be true to an extent (American detective literature has had world-wide influence, after all), it's still a game made in Poland by a Polish developer based on a series of novels by Polish writer Andrzej Sapkowski, and both have tons of elements from European tradition and folklore to boot. However, they don't mention it at all in the entire video, which some argue implies to uninformed viewers that the game is a pure product of North American culture.


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