- Alternatively, he confuses it with Jolinar, the Tok’Ra who briefly inhabited Carter’s body.
- Then the Naquadah that stargates are made of must be very resilient/refined, considering how often very explosive firefights are fought near a chappa'ai. Otherwise, every stargate could be a potential ground-zero for an Earth-Shattering Kaboom.
- You're confusing Naquadah for Naquadria. Naquadria is the unstable element, with a long half-life and explosive tendencies. meanwhile Naquadah is stable and superconductive (which means that it creates no electrical resistance) and will only explodes if you overload it with energy, which is difficult to do.
- Naquadah is probably like bismuth-209, except with a much higher atomic number in a theorized but still speculative island of stability. Bismuth-209 decays so slowly that it can be dealt with as if it were stable and non-radioactive. But it actually is radioactive, with a half life 10 billion times the age of the universe. It is safe to ingest though (see: pepto-bismol). Naquadria is very unstable (it is stated that it will decay back into ordinary naquadah after a relatively short time (less than 10,000 years - meaning its half life is probably something like 2500-5000 years). Naquadria is probably naquadah with an extra neutron (or two) and probably decays via neutron decay.
- Naquadah is known as element zero or “eezo” in an alternate reality.
- At least not until season 9.
- To paraphrase Rodney: otherwise they've discovered yet another technologically advanced species capable of posing a threat to earth. It would also explain why they fire on the Prometheus right away.
- The Stragoth by the way are named as such in the SG-1 roleplaying game.
- Well, they certainly have the same color scheme.
- Confirmed in "The Tomb" — O'Neill mentions that the P-90s are loaded with armor-piercing bullets.
- The standard round is armor-piercing. Part of the design objective for the P90 was countering the increasing use of body armour by modern armies.
- The SGC is probably the largest consumer of armor-piercing bullets in the world by now.
- Set the auto-destruct to go off;
- Take out Teal'c's symbiote;
- Teal'c went into a dangerous, deadly Kel'no'reem to talk to his symbiote;
- Tell everybody else to take the loop off, too;
- Watch every single episode of The Simpsons that had aired by that point;
- Finally get Jack to watch Star Wars.
- Fulfill every Tealc/Jack, Tealc/[character] and Jack/[character] slash and fan fic.
- Furlings being the aliens Destiny is looking for would be a Crowning Chekhov's Gun of Funny.
- No, because the Ancient who built it was Janus, who created the time-traveling Puddle Jumper and was the only Ancient who ever used it.
- You misunderstand: Garan was really Janus in disguise.
- Over the decade-plus or so that the program has been in existence, thousands, if not tens of thousands, of personnel have to have been assigned either directly or in support, and all of them have civilian relatives and friends; several of them had to have talked, even if they swore their loved ones/friends to silence. There's simply no way that something this big can be kept secret indefinitely with so many people that have to be involved, especially now that the world's other major powers are involved in helping to oversee the program, have sent personnel of their own to liaise with the SGC, etc. It's really only a matter of time before the civilian population at large learns what's been happening.
- The sheer number of supplies being shipped offworld and never heard from again - enough ammunition to equip an army with not obvious wars going on, medicines used to help off-world villages, you name it. The manufacturers must surely be curious where they're going when they keep being ordered.
- While in reality it's not unheard of for a member of the armed forces to die and have no body to be shipped back (or very little), this is happening often with not enough wars on earth to account for them.
- Kinsey at least paints his obsessive objection to the Stargate program in religious terms.
- To add some confusion to this WMG, the Vatican has already accepted the possibility of aliens.
- This is perfect.
- FWIW, Amanda Tapping is English by birth, so this would become a weird subversion of Fake Nationality...
- This is perfect.
- The SGC deliberately let Wormhole Xtreme be produced to provide plausible deniability, and having the show be cheesy *helped*. Anytime there was a leak, they could say "this isn't real, they just copied it from this cheesy sci-fi show, silly conspiracy theorists".
- After the Lanteans returned from Atlantis to Earth, they slowly integrated into the population. However, there's a few bits that point to actual ancients being around for a surprisingly long time, most notably their influence on roman language and culture, and to inspire the myth of Atlantis. This would mean they were around until about the year 300 BC, probably even longer.
- The Asgard had their own influence on norse culture. It's tough to identify when exactly their influence began, but it's likely before 400 AD (when the first runestones were written).
- Nox aren't explicitly related to any specific earth culture, but seem like they might have influenced human believes of fey or fairies (let's face it, in stargate, every alien is either inspired or imitated an earth mythology, and the nox certainly don't seem like they would still be imitating earth legends), of which the principles date back to celtic, germanic and greco-roman legends.
- Obviously, the furlings are a little tougher to place. However, we are given some hints, albeit of questionable canonicity. In one of the novels (city of the gods), an omecoyan (GIANT ALIENS) temple of earth is found to contain furling writing, with the implication that they either are furlings, or that they are an automated system created by the furlings. 'Crystal Skull' indicates that the omecoyans were the inspiration for at least the mesoamerican pyramids, placing their presence on earth at around a 1000 BC. The cancelled Stargate MMO 'Stargate Worlds' would have contained enemies called the Straegis, which were the last furlings, enslaved by Ra.
- The ending of "The Other Guys" and "Avenger 2.0" shows Felger awakening from a daydream after going on missions with SG-1. Neither of these episodes show any of the main cast when he's definitely "awake". It's possible that he has a boring research job which he can't advance from because of his bumbling tendencies and just imagined the entire series as an escape from reality.
However, it's possible that between the scene on Orilla and the scene in Weir's office where Jack found out about the promotion, a few days had passed. Weir mentioned that he'd been given a clean bill of health "as far as the finest medical professionals on this planet are concerned" suggesting he'd at least had time for a thorough check-up. Why exactly he would have ended up on a mother ship during this time and gotten exposed to a cloaking generator, being turned invisible, then not even mentioning it isn't clear. However, this is the SGC, and weird stuff happens all the time so it might not have seemed that important. The whole cloaking generator thing may have ended up being a red herring any way, with the real reason actually being related to the ancient repository. In the same way he got healing abilities, invisibility may have just been an ability he got as side effect and his invisibility may have actually be a sign of him not being completely "cured" of the knowledge yet (with the other symptoms at a risk of returning as well). Once he got cured for real, then the scene in Weir's office took place.
Of course, there's also the possibility that the whole O'Neill invisibility thing was just something Carter made up (when her other ideas kept getting shot down) and the others played along.
- How is that funnier than being a fan of Mothra?
What's more, in those same episodes Lord Yu is the only System Lord to oppose Anubis being allowed to rejoin their ranks. Coincidentally, Lord Yu is the target of the assassination mission K'tano sends Teal'c on- an attack significantly beyond his usual raids. Although part of that is definitely K'tano pulling a Uriah Gambit on Teal'c, it's possible punishing Yu for his opposition was also an element of the goal.
Explaining why it's different for every Stargate is trickier. In Stargate, the Earth and Abydos Stargates had completely different symbol sets — an aspect that SG-1 quietly retconned away. Since all Stargates are now identical except for the POO symbol, the idea is probably to tell Stargates apart even if they are moved between planets.
- Alternatively, the POO symbol could have been used as a shorthand by the ancients for talking about their destination.Ancient 1: So, where are you going this year?
Ancient 2: I was thinking of going to Circle over Pyramid.
Ancient 1: Nice.- Actually, they would've probably referred to the planets by their seven-to-nine-syllable Ancient name as derived from the planet's gate address. ("Lost City, Part 2")
- The syllable for the Earth's POO in Ancient is "At".
- Since "Lost City" showed that the symbols are assigned corresponding syllables, this alternative is probably confirmed. Earth is 'At', by the way. Whole addresses form phrases that are used as planet names ('Prok-la-rush Tay-o-nas' for the only in-universe example), but these may be more "formal" or official names than that represented by the POO.
- Couldn't it just as likely be a serial number, the ancients equivalent of going to planet 831547?
- Actually, they would've probably referred to the planets by their seven-to-nine-syllable Ancient name as derived from the planet's gate address. ("Lost City, Part 2")
- In the Pegasus galaxy, the POO and enter keys seem to be the same, suggesting that the use of two separate keys for POO and enter became obsolete some time between the creation of the stargate system in the Milky Way and that in Pegasus. Perhaps related to the obsolescence of manual dial?
- Would make sense as far as dialing out of the galaxy goes. If you didn't have an 'enter' command, you'd connect as soon as you had seven, wouldn't you?
- (This idea was copied from the SGU WMG) Alternatively, the origin symbol is actually an "orientation" symbol, added to keep version 1.0 gates (such as those used by Destiny) upright when they connect. Since they spin their entire ring, they would have to have some mechanism keeping the cargo from coming through upside-down. The answer is the final symbol, which isn't actually part of the address, but sets the gate's orientation to a known value. Version 2.0 gates (such as those used in the Milky Way) didn't really need it, but by that point, people were so used to dialing an orientation symbol every time that the designers kept it around.
- It would actually make a lot more sense if the Point of Origin is actually the starting point of the dialing process. It doesn't mean a "point of origin" in the sense of where you start your travel, but rather, it's the start and end point of the dialing process. The gate only dials when it has been returned to its Point of Origin. As such, the symbol used is entirely up to the creator of that specific stargate. The Milky Way stargates were one of the earlier versions, and were made to order - as such, each one had a symbol, possibly indicating who created that stargate. The newer Pegasus stargates were mass-created for quicker distribution to replace the older units, while the ones being placed by the ships that went before Destiny had to be standardised and produced automatically. So really, the unique symbol used on some Milky Way stargates might be considered to be a maker's mark.
- Alternatively, DHDs have existed as long as Stargates; what happened between the colonization of the Milky Way and Pegasus was that some mechanical problem with DHDs was solved, rendering manual dial unnecessary as an emergency backup procedure.
- Note how often we encountered "broken" DHDs in SG-1 compared to Atlantis.
- Alternatively, since we know at least as far as The Milky Way goes, the stargates are older. At that point in time the ancients thought there would be far more Gates and those extra symbols would be needed, (IE, I Pv 6 versus I Pv 4). At some point when the new gates were rolled out, the Ancients realized they'd never possibly need that many gates and cut down on the symbols.
- They can lock out dangerous addresses (black holes, for instance) so nobody can dial them, intentionally or otherwise.
- They can employ user IDs, passwords (changed at need), palmprints and so forth to prevent unauthorized access even if someone gets to sub-level 26 undetected.
- It can ignore a lot of nitpicky dialing protocols (admittedly, not always a feature, sometimes a bug).
- It's only real drawback is that it's slower than a DHD, as they've learned to their cost on more than one occasion.
- I'm pretty sure this one is confirmed in the show — they say that they keep the dialing computer for security reasons. Also, in "Avenger 2.0", Earth's gate wasn't affected, as Earth's gate no longer receives updates from the network.
Second, Daniel's model would imply that addresses allow a number of permutations: for example, 2-1-3-4-6-5, 4-3-2-1-5-6, or even backwards, as the three intersecting lines would stay the same. However, in Stargate SG-1, it's implied that addresses are unique and strictly order-dependent.
Third, constellations are not fixed points in space: they're areas of the imaginary sky sphere created by projecting stars of varying distance from Earth onto a single sphere.
Fourth, there are addresses differing in only one symbol. In Daniel's model, it would result (at best) in two intersecting lines and one line not passing through their intersection point.
What do the addresses mean, then? Well, in 3D space, you need at least three coordinates, although the coordinate system itself can vary (Cartesian, cylindrical, spherical, etc.) It's possible that the "constellations" do not correspond to real constellations (as Daniel assumed) and instead only serve as digits in base 38, and the mapping between "constellations" and digits was arbitrarily chosen. They translate into some coordinate system, and each of the three coordinates uses two "constellation" digits (and thus each coordinate has 1444 possible values — presumably, in some coordinate system, this gives sufficient resolution to address the entire galaxy).
- The problem is, if 4 of 6 points in Daniel's system don't lie on the same plane, the system doesn't work. If you addressed 38 points in a spiral galaxy (39 gate glyphs minus point of origin), you could use a 6 symbol coordinate system thusly: 1. first reference point, say a pulsar 2. azimuth spinward from that point with zero azimuth being toward the center of the galaxy 3. elevation on a plane perpendicular to the azimuth. 4, 5 and 6 would be the same for another reference point. That would give you two lines in 3D space, and where they cross is the destination. The Po O glyph is used as a procedural symbol to finish the address.
What about the SGC address correction program, then? Well, presumably, Samantha came up with her own (correct) explanation of the addresses, independently, and probably never learned about Daniel's erroneous guess because she wasn't present when he explained it.
- In one episode, Sam explains that once in a while, each Stargate autodials each other one to update their coordinates. This evidence supports the above theory.
- This theory also explains why dialing the Asgard galaxy requires eight symbols rather than the usual seven.
- They live in a different area code?
- That is literally the in-universe explanation.
- They live in a different area code?
- The address correction program, we may assume, is necessary only because the SGC does not use a proper DHD and therefore does not receive updates.
- To the third point, the Abydos Stargate in the movie has unique symbols which would correlate to its own constellations. It can be guessed that the symbols only correlate to a general area, and that the Stargates never get close enough together to overlap.
- In the movie, Abydos was in a different galaxy "at the other side of the known universe". SG-1 retconned quite a few things; all the other Milky Way Stargates have the same glyph sets, so it's logical to assume that so does the Abydos Stargate.
- Possible fridge brilliance, since the series keeps the idea that different galactic gate networks use different glyphs? The only thing that changed is the location of Abydos from the "Tolium galaxy" into the milky way, and thus it's gate became a milky way gate.
- In the movie, Abydos was in a different galaxy "at the other side of the known universe". SG-1 retconned quite a few things; all the other Milky Way Stargates have the same glyph sets, so it's logical to assume that so does the Abydos Stargate.
- The Abydos DHD may be damaged (it does not appear that Ra kept it in regular use in the movie, perhaps having one on his ship instead), explaining its unusual symbols and its only being able to dial Earth. (The on-screen explanation implies that address correction had to be done manually and that they could only dial Earth because only Earth's address was still current; but this does not mesh with much of anything else we know about the working of the Stargate).
- Apophis uses the Abydos DHD to dial Chulak. It is an outrageous plot device: he had the hand-dialer, which he previously used to dial the SGC's Stargate, and the only purpose was to allow Ferretti to learn Chulak's address by looking at the highlighted keys. What ever happened to the glyph order being significant? As for the movie, no DHDs were shown in it; for all we know, they may not even exist in the movie-only continuity.
- Even if the glyph order is significant, the SGC's dialing computer is more than capable of spam-dialing all 720 possible combinations of the glyphs until it found one that works. t SGC already knew which six symbols they needed, but didn't know the order for them (Ferretti saw the proper symbols glowing on the hand-dialer, but didn't see them actually entered). Six symbols chosen 6 at a time give 720 permutation.
- Here is a screenshot of an Ancient's notebook◊ from Ark of Truth. As you can see, there's a drawing like the one Daniel used in the movie to describe the coordinate system.
- It was just a sketch, not a blueprint or a formal technical paper. Perhaps the original concept for the system was exactly like Daniel suggested. But when the system was being built, they hit the same issues that were mentioned here and decided to scrap the constellations idea, reverting to an address system more like a phone-number. Keeping the constellation symbols on the DH Ds would make sense, seeing as every race that used the system would have their own language. As was shown in an earlier episode, The Four Races used a joint language based on the table of elements for communication. Using constellations isn't a far reach...
- Except that constellations are Earth-specific, so for anyone not from Earth they would simply be arbitrary pictograms.
- It was just a sketch, not a blueprint or a formal technical paper. Perhaps the original concept for the system was exactly like Daniel suggested. But when the system was being built, they hit the same issues that were mentioned here and decided to scrap the constellations idea, reverting to an address system more like a phone-number. Keeping the constellation symbols on the DH Ds would make sense, seeing as every race that used the system would have their own language. As was shown in an earlier episode, The Four Races used a joint language based on the table of elements for communication. Using constellations isn't a far reach...
- This disposes nicely of the Fridge Logic behind eight-chevron addresses — a number in base 38 corresponding to an alternate galaxy makes a lot more sense than a random constellation does.
- It is possible that Daniel's explanation is simply inadequate due to his lack of in-depth mathematical knowledge. Assuming that each symbol represents an unique point in the galaxy, it is possible that a more accurate description of its mechanism for determining an unique point within the galaxy involves using a formula that uses planes created according to some rule - the intersection of three distinct, non-parallel planes (whose normals aren't coplanar) will identify a single location in space. Perhaps the order is part of the process used to define the orientations of the planes.
Daniel and Teal'c taught the rest of the SGC personnel basic Goa'uld, and whenever we see Earthlings apparently speaking English to humans from other planets, they're actually speaking it instead. Admittedly, as a theory, it's kind of a stretch, but what are the alternatives? Human-made universal translators? Universal translators somehow built into the gate? I'd say of all the possible explanations for Aliens Speaking English, the Translation Convention is probably the least problematic.
- It's more likely that she just got Jolinar's memories and that Jolinar was well educated in alien technology.
- So there are three tiers of Goa'uld, then? The Furlings, the galaxy-wide Goa'uld we know well, and the wild Goa'uld on P 3 X-888 with no blood naquadah?
- Genetic memory could evolve naturally (starting with offspring inheriting fundamental instincts, then more complex memories) and would present a significant advantage in selection (offspring matures faster, knowledge is retained better, etc).
Alternatively, the Furlings did not ascend, but were wiped out by the Goa'uld. Either way, the Goa'uld fractured time and again due to their developing god complex and lost most of their technology.
- In a universe with Psychic Powers, Time Travel and non-corporeal beings, how can you say "it doesn't work that way"? Their way is clearly not our way. Memory and mind in the Stargate-verse can transcend the physical.
- Actually, genetic memory DOES exist in our world...the Goa'uld've simply found a way to break it and make it ridiculous.
- As a support to this theory, if Goa'uld means god in the Goa'uld language then it seems reasonable to think the Goa'uld called themselves something else prior to developing their god complex. They could have been Furlings. Perhaps the Goa'uld were an offshoot of the Furlings in the same way the Tok'ra are an offshoot of the Goa'uld (the same species but completely different personalities due to the genetic memory chosen to be passed on and they go by a different name). If the Ancients were used to dealing good members of the Goa'uld species, that could explain why Oma was taken in by Anubis' act.
The za'tark "detector" only works if it can find a memory gap to exploit, possibly taking advantage of the mind's possibly vulnerable state as it tries to fill in missing blanks from a given situation. (Nobody's memory is perfect, especially in a stressful situation.) Daniel and Teal'c had been lucky.
When Anise/Freya retested O'Neill and Carter, she didn't expect that they could fill in the blanks. She didn't "trigger" them because she wanted O'Neill's DNA to start her own Goa'uld (hence, her trying to seduce him), and she likely knew that O'Neill would certainly not be in the 'mood' if anything happened to Sam.
- Goa'uld take humans (or human-decendants) as hosts. Why would they make a comment like that based on their symbiont bodies rather than their hosts'? Also, a Goa'uld didn't say that line, Aris Boch, a human, did. ("Deadman Switch")
- Alternatively the Soul Stones ARE the Goa'Uld, and Diablo is simply a heavily fictionalized myth version of an actual alliance in ancient time between Sokar, Baal, and a now-dead Goa'uld named Mephisto.
- What about Athena? If I recall correctly she was one of the nicer gods. Certainly up there with Hades, anyway. She's not particularly nice on the show though, what with running the trust for Ba'al and all.
- Tiresias would not say she was nice.
- Hades kidnapped and married Persephone against her will, causing her mother Demeter to be so disheartened that it caused winter. He was also allies with/brother of Zeus and Poseidon, not two of the nicest fellows when it comes to humanity. Also, he specialized in Cold-Blooded Torture against people who dared offend the gods (as well as those who actually did something wrong). And allowing somebody his wife to come back from the dead as long as he doesn't look at her to see if she's following him, and then making her footsteps inaudible? Dick move. Still less bad than the Asgard Lokinote , who raped a horse in mythology.
- He didn't rape a horse, he pissed Odin of so bad that he turned him into a mare, let horses have his way with him, and didn't turn him back until he gave birth to a bunch of monsters. Still, he did plenty of other dickish things, like tricking everyone into murdering Baldr or being complicit in the theft of the golden apples that kept everyone immortal, including himself.
(Incidentally, this is also the Stargate 'verse's explanation for why Roman mythology is mostly cribbed from Greek mythology — the Ancients stopped any Goa'uld from gaining any foothold in the Italian peninsula, but they weren't willing to go so far as to prevent its inhabitants from worshipping the next nearest "gods".)
- Ba'al's host may in fact be the genius of the operation, which is why Ba'al never tried swapping hosts, and why he went to the trouble of cloning his host as well as himself.
- Talk about getting Screwed by the Network.
- Now I finally understand what "crimes unspeakable even to the Goa'uld" means.
- His ultimate plot was not to conquer the galaxy but to continue his reign of cliffhanger finales. He succeeded in season 6 but barely failed in seasons 5,7, and 8, after which he was put on a bus to ensure that he never did it again, only to sneak past Oma to trick the Ori into doing it for season 9. The series was canceled after season 10 to insure he couldn't repeat that.
- Just to add further evidence, Apophis considered Klorel to be his son (and seemed to have a special relationship with him), rather than just considering him a symbiote born from his Queen. Also, Teal'c symbiote was able to show him a vision of Cronus killing his father which indicates that this symbiote had the genetic memory of Cronus. This all suggests that it's not just the queens passing on their DNA.
- Of course, this means that the Ba'al getting extracted at the end of Continuum is completely pointless. They're going to end up with a vegetable Ba'al clone that has no mind of his own. Or if he does have a mind of his own, it's just a human copy of the symbiote.
- Except that a Goa'uld gains the memories of its host. Which means that even if the clones Ba'al's host were blank slates, they'd still end up with the original host's memories on a secondhand basis. Of course, if Ba'al is like most Goa'uld and keeps the same host for as long as possible, that would mean that the host has thousands of years of Ba'al's memories to sort through. Thus, quite a bit more to deal with than Vala's brief time as Qetesh's host. Even with the memories of the host intact, he might still think of himself as being Ba'al.
- The Bible makes frequent reference to "the Baals".
- Isn't that where that comes from?
- Feel free to add your own:
- Anubis was introducing bio-engineered humans with a gene that would cause them to reject goa'uld hosts into the domains of his enemies.
- Anubis was developing a virus that would spread through the stargate network that would throw out the automatic recalibration of gate addresses, meaning that the entire network would be disrupted over time
- Anubis was slipping information about his enemies to the tok'ra.
- Anubis was using propaganda to set himself up as the one true god, inciting rebellions against all other goa'uld. It's possible he was the one that started the rebellion against Ra in the first place (based on the presence of fossilized anubis-like guards in one of the deleted scenes from the movie) and it took the system lords thousands of years to figure out who was inciting all these rebellions.
- Anubis built either three-sided pyramids or four-sided motherships, sparing himself the cost of a dimensional manipulator.
- According to the Stargate Wiki article on Ra (based largely on RPG story material), the "crimes unspeakable" angle seems to be pure propaganda. He was simply an old enemy of Ra whom the latter fought for control of the Goa'uld Empire and defeated. The only thing close to a crime unspeakable is that he killed their parent Apep, but Bra'tac stated in "The Serpent's Lair" that System Lords are most often challenged by their offspring so that was probably just a Goa'uld being a Goa'uld.
- In my own headcanon, it was because Anubis' ascension was looked upon as poorly by the Goa'uld as it was by the Ancients.
- It's possible that due to the effect of accumulated genetic memory each generation of Goa'uld simply gets more evil, thus explaining why Yu (who was the oldest and thus from an earlier generation) was decent by Goa'uld standards, and Egeria created the Tokra (and she must have been at least old enough to predate all the Tokra) but no good modern Goa'uld were seen. As a consequence, maybe Anubis didn't actually do anything more evil than your standard modern Goa'uld but he did it back when Goa'uld standards were lower (or higher, however you want to look at it).
- Sam and Daniel were involved in training recruits, where they were "playing" a Tok'ra and a Goa'uld. They used voice changers and things that made their eyes flash. It wasn't natural, it was tech they used for the simulation so it would appear as authentic as possible.
- Where, though? Behind her eyes? Ouch...
- The problem remains that such a technology would have to be either external, (in which case it'd have to be something like fiber-optic line leading from an external light source to contact lenses that are designed to glow gold when backlit); or internal, like an implant within or possibly behind the eye itself. The first method would be prohibitively expensive for a training exercise, and it would probably be very non-convincing, since the fiber-optics would have to be covered up with thick makeup. The second is way beyond the Tauri level of technology, and massively excessive for a training exercise as well. On the other hand we know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the Go'a'uld can alter the host's physiology to cause the eye-flash, since it happens within seconds of the Go'a'uld entering a host. That modification would likely stay around, and since the Go'a'uld control their hosts using the host nervous system, the eye-flash modifications would remain connected to the host's nervous system. My opinion is definitely that Carter, O'Neill, and everyone else who's been a Go'a'uld or a Tok'ra keep the ability. Which leads us to the inescapable conclusion that Jack makes his eyes flash when he's bored.
- You can have glowing eyes in real life by using ultraviolet LEDs and contact lenses that react to UV light.
For the when part, lets look at what was chronologically the last known goa'uld activity on Earth prior to the series. Barring the seth cults, there are two possible events that could have been the last. First, there was Sokar, who posed as Satan at some point during the middle ages. Given how widely spread the abrahamic religions were, Sokar's domain could have been quite grand at the time. The other possibility for a last event is during the mongolian invasion of Japan in 1288, when the goa'uld Raiden stopped the invaders and banished them to the planet from Emancipation.
Okay, that's the backstory out of the way. Now for the the WMG and 'why' parts. Let us presume for a moment that there was a third major goa'uld domain on Earth at the time: That of Tengri, the chief god of the Mongolian hordes. Tengri sought to establish himself as the supreme ruler of the Earth. He'd already attacked India and driven out the remaining hindu gods. During the 1240s (fitting with the real-life Mongol invasion of Europe) he turned his eyes on Sokar's domain, attacking him and driving him off-world. He then turned his eyes east, attacking the domain of Raiden during the 1280s (the real-life Mongol invasion of Japan). Despite his much smaller Terran domain, Raiden managed to defeat Tengri and kill him, leaving him as the last remaining goa'uld lord of Earth.
Except Raiden didn't have much use for the Earth. His empire used ships as transportation rather than relying on stargates (to the point most of his worlds didn't even have any stargates). Plus, since his empire was described as bordering that of Yu, it must have been quite distant from Earth. Even with the improved goa'uld speeds during the SG-1 era, Yu's domain is still too far from Earth for him to be interested in it. Keeping domain over the Earth simply wasn't feasible for Raiden. He would still occasionally visit the planet to gather more human stock for his worlds, but even that ended. Presumably, he fought Ra at one point and lost, retreating to only his core worlds. All the other goa'uld assumed that Ra had ceased control of the Earth again, but Ra didn't actually know that he could lay claim to Earth. No goa'uld tried dialling Earth during this period, as they were too afraid to anger Ra. It was only after Ra had died that goa'uld started trying to access Earth again, and by that time the Egyptian stargate had been uncovered, meaning they dialled in there rather than in Antarctica.
As an example of where this seems apparent, in "Moebius" (alternate timeline) Teal'c was confronted by some Jaffa from Ra's time. Even though he was speaking to Jaffa, he spoke in English. They responded completely in Goa'uld (maybe they understood him, maybe not, it wasn't clear). Again, it makes no sense from the perspective of translation convention. However, if these Jaffa from the past were naturally using archaic language while Teal'c being from the present was using the modern form of Goa'uld (mostly English) it makes sense.
When SG-1 travelled back in time in Moebius, they were smart enough to leave themselves a message just in case something went wrong. Ba’al is a Magnificent Bastard and not nearly as arrogant as most Goa’uld. He would have done the same.
When he arrived back in time in Continuum, two versions of himself would have existed at once. Presumably, in the alternate timeline, at some point Ba’al had to either kill or incapacitate his younger self to stop him interfering with his plans (and so he could take his place). The fact that, when Mitchell kills Ba’al in 1939, the timeline goes back to normal suggests that his younger self was still alive at that point.
Ba’al preserved a mobile phone for half a century make to one phone call. The guy plans ahead. It’s probable that he didn’t just go straight to the ship. More likely, he made sure to go back in time early enough that he could set up a message somewhere so that, if things didn’t work out, he would eventually find it in the present (before he travels back in time) and know not to travel back in time.
The upshot is that Ba’al is still in the present (and alive) at the end of Continuum.
- Make sense if you think about the first episode. They go to Abydos, where everyone speak the heavy accented English Daniel taught them. Then they go to Chulak where nobody speaks in English except for the Goa'uld and the Jaffa. In later episodes the language problem disappear and everybody seems to speak perfect English except for the people of Abydos who still have the same accent because unlike anybody else the team meet, they actually speak in English.
- Except that Goa'uld are probably poisonous to humans or Jaffa. They have blue blood, their biology is certainly too alien to be digestible. That's certainly the reason why Daniel didn't eat the symbiote despite Shaka's insistence, besides it being yucky. Unas have certainly developed a stronger digestive system, and Goa'uld can make their hosts resist the poison.
- This helps explain why he so readily offered to "stay behind" and keep 50 years permanently added on to his age in the series finale, as, aided by Tretonin, he'd still be assured of living at least as long as his friends and teammates once the time slowdown was ended.
- That would nicely handle the potential plot hole, anyway.
- Tretonin gives him the same life span he would have had if he still had his goa'uld.
- It can't possibly. In "Maternal Instinct" Bra'tac is in his mid-130s. He says in that episode that he's within a couple years of his symbiote outgrowing him, but that he's too old to take another symbiote. That puts the Goa'ulded Jaffa lifespan somewhere below 140.
- I believe it's stated that no symbiote would accept him. Tretonin, being a medicine, takes the acceptance part out of the equation.
- It can't possibly. In "Maternal Instinct" Bra'tac is in his mid-130s. He says in that episode that he's within a couple years of his symbiote outgrowing him, but that he's too old to take another symbiote. That puts the Goa'ulded Jaffa lifespan somewhere below 140.
You see, after SG-1 escaped through the Stargate back to 1999, the military searched the area, found the hippies, questioned them about SG-1, and then sent Michael to Vietnam, where he died. The Stargate Program was then started to investigate what happened (creating a Stable Time Loop), and Jenny somehow became involved, possibly since the military didn't want to bring any more civilians into the fold.
Jenny eventually ended up being the Chevron Gal at the time of the first Abydos mission. She was fired after the project got mothballed and was not brought back when the program was restarted; hence the reason there are civilian technicians in the film and military technicians in the series.
- Time travel in Stargate doesn't seem to work that way. "2010/2001", "Moebius", etc. clearly show that it works under the "mutable history" model. "1969" can be interpreted under the mutable model as well. See this. However, the only aspect that needs to be changed due to this is the reason for the Stargate Program's creation. After all, a mutated mutable timeline can resemble a Stable Time Loop if the past isn't changed much.
- Time Travel in the Stargate Universe seems to work both ways; 1969 requires a Stable Time Loop. Perhaps you can trigger one if you work hard enough.
- The time loop in "1969" is stable because the resolution of the loop does not prevent the creation of the loop. They don't tell past-Hammond not to let them go on the current mission. Even if time is mutable, since nothing critical to the loop changes when the loop is formed, it never goes away.
- Since when has it been thought otherwise?
- I always imagined that he existed, but he wasn't part of the military, or at least had never joined the Stargate program, since it was a Close-Enough Timeline .
- Technically confirmed, given they're a Renegade Splinter Faction from the Ori.
- So where did these humans come from originally? And how is it that nothing the "time-traveling Ancients" do screws with their future Ascension in the first place (see "The Grandfather Paradox")
- Simple, the ancients were originally descended from the humans that evolved naturally on Earth. It's canon from SGU that large groups of people can time travel thousands of years into the past, so why not millions? Intergalactic travel is also relatively easy once a society reaches a certain level of technological prominence and access to the requisite power sources. From there, all we need to assume is that the Alterans either maintained or (more likely) at some point implemented a program to return their population to their original genetic composition. This really is the only way to explain the identical genetics given the overwhelming proof of natural human evolution on Earth. An artificial seeding should look very different.
- It's also impossible to know whether their time travel interfered with their ascension from our current information. It's possible they managed to enter a stable time loop. Likewise, it's just as plausible that our present timeline is one that overwrote the original when the time travel occurred like we saw in Moebius.
- Did you miss the part in "Counterstrike" where Adria choked a Jaffa to death with telekineses, brought him back to life, and then snapped his neck, again using telekineses? I'm pretty sure that counts as "killing people".
- Who's to say the Nox haven't ascended? They're able to hide cities, resurrect their dead, etc. Perhaps the form that is manifested in the series is what we see in our reality, even though they're already ascended?
- It appears that the 3 of the 4 'Great Races' encountered have all hit the wall, as far as their species goes. The Ancients ascended, becoming immortal and all knowing (For the most part). The Asgard, through reckless scientific advances, sabotage their own species. The Nox never ascend because they don't have a need to do so - They're functionally immortal and want for nothing.
The reason the Ori have zero tolerance for non-believers is that, if enough non-believers were ever to get organised and work as one, then they could focus their anti-Ori beliefs to create a "negative energy" which would weaken the Ori enough that they could be defeated or even killed by mere mortals.
This is why they destroy worlds that do not bow to the Ori. They want to prevent that possibility of non-believers working together from ever happening.
- When Ra is destroyed in the Stargate movie the alien face theat appears before the explosion does not look like a Goa'uld. Although it has a general resemblance to an Asgard face the Asgard have not been portrayed possessing people like Ra does. Perhaps Ra is a renegade Furling. Matti 23
- This might also feed into a plot point that was discussed for the MMO with the Furlings creating the Goa'uld. He might be a remnant of that origin and have gone renegade with the Goa'uld under his control. We've seen renegade ancients, renegade Asgard, this could be the Furling equivalent. It certainly explains how a Furling Archway made its way to a Egyptian Tomb on Earth. Matti 23
- This would be a bit of cosmic irony as many have stated that they wish the see the Furlings but it may be that the Furlings may be among the first aliens seen in the entire Stargate Franchise. Matti 23
- This would give the 4 powers in the alliance some symmetry. It would have 2 human looking members (Ancients and Nox) and 2 Asgard like members (Asgard and Furling). Matti 23
- Because how epic would that be? Also, Asian legends usually paint dragons as wise, ancient creatures that while benevolent were totally capable of ruining your day if they felt it was necessary — doesn't that sound like a people each of the three Great Races already encountered would get along with?
- No real evidence to back this one up beyond the fact that the unknown aliens from grace were considerably advanced (Sizable ship, teleport technology, advanced weapons, etc) and that they understood English (POSSIBLY indicating involvement with either a human group or the ancients/asgard, or just really, really good translators). The alien ship appeared to be comparable in some ways to Asgard tech (Asgard style teleports as opposed to rings, energy weapons that didn't appear to be similar to Goa'uld weapons or Ori Beam weapons) so it is not entirely inconcievable that the Furlings, as part of the alliance, shared aspects of technological development with the Asgard, or at least influenced eachother in that regard.
- Personally, I'd just find it amusing to find out that the Furlings are a bunch of A**holes who cruise around the galaxy shooting at everything that moves.
- Their many time-travel experiments nearly destroyed history as we know it, so they communicated with the other three Great Races from the future and guided them along to ensure history happened the way it did originally.
- Alternatively, they're failed Ancient experiments for ascension. They got trapped in their current limited form, but require a high level of radiation to stay intact/alive. The giant pyramid was designed as a place where they could live. We know the Ancients have the technology for shifting dimensions and building a sufficiently large structure. The crystal skull is a symbol for ascension, meaning clarity of mind or some other philosophical Ancient thing. Or maybe, ascension was a success, and the pyramid is what the hall of fire is to the Ori - the place where their energy bodies are located by default. They choose to manifest themselves as giant aliens rather than a raging inferno, and aren't active enough to warrant a priesthood. The skull itself is meant as a way to ask for an audience without having to invade one's body.
- Expanded Universe materials call the smoke aliens Omeyocans. It seems the Furlings are doomed to be the series' ultimate Noodle Incident forever.
- (looks at her SG/DW crossover) That is now my personal canon. And it explains why you never see the Furlings — they all got time-locked on Gallifrey after the Last Great Time War, except the Doctor and the Master.
- Picturing the Doctor as a giant teddy bear: Awesome.
- Headcanon accepted.
- Of course, that doesn't stop them from also having been furry.
- This would make a certain amount of sense. The Ancients were basically human. The Asgard said their original form was similar to the human body. The Nox look essentially human-like. Yet species like the Oranian, the Serakin and Unas have distinctly reptilian traits. Perhaps one of the four great races had reptilian traits and was responsible for seeding much of the non-human life in the galaxy.
- The Ancients are Men, of course. (Probably Numenoreans, if you want to get specific.)
- The Nox writing system looks very Elvish. They're also close to nature, long-lived, and have a policy of keeping to themselves and avoiding the more warlike races.
- The Asgard are associated with Norse culture, have a runic alphabet similar to Dwarvish, are culturally focused on making and building things, and are more willing to associate with us lowly mortals than any of the other races.
Ents.
As a plus, this also explains why so many worlds have trees on them. There are actually Furling settlements everywhere.
- Further evidence comes from the ability of Wraith to operate the Daedalus. The human engineers designing the Daedalus would have incorporated the superior Asgard interfaces into their own technology. Unfortunately, that means that just about anyone could operate the Daedalus — including the Wraith.
- In one episode, O'Neill is summoned to the Asgard counsel chambers, which is cavernous and full of empty seats.
- They where capable of sexual reproduction until some time thousand years ago or so, if memory serves, if nothing else, at least up to 30000 years ago, according to the wiki. There's no evidence they where even around 50 million years ago. That said, I do agree ther population had likely been low at the start of the show and only worsened as it went on before the series finale.
- Later, Daniel gets given a vision of what would happen if he had the knowledge of the Goa'uld. Among other things, he loses his glasses. Coincidence? I think not...
- Canon, isn't it?
- What, you think Ancients are going to go for a substitution cipher?
- And Lucius Lavin somehow ended up being an Earthling scientist. See here.
- Now that Amazon owns MGM, it makes sense that they'd want to use one of their most iconic properties to make new content for their streaming service.
- Star Wars exists in the Stargate-verse as fiction, but it could fall under the Literary Agent Hypothesis. In early drafts of the SW screenplay, the story was framed as being told from the "Journal of the Whills". Perhaps this exists as a document in the Stargate Verse.
- Alternatively, George Lucas is an alien, much like Martin Lloyd of Wormhole X-Treme.
- Even more alternatively, Star Wars is a highly fictionalized version of a real war fought between different factions of Ancients in the Milky Way galaxy. It's referred to as being "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." because it's being told to the modern inhabitants of Atlantis. It exists as fiction because someone told the story to Lucas on one of their unintentional time-traveling trips.
- Fortunately, if Scorpius ended up on Endor after the final battle in Return of the Jedi, then... oh joy, Endor Holocaust!
- And if before, then we can safely discout Palpatine's story about his Master's name being Darth Plagueis.
- Well, obviously this is another Aeryn Sun who was "thrown into a blender" with Chiana, like in that unrealized reality—her personality is 90% Chiana, her physiology 90% Aeryn.
- In addition, Farscape the series exists in the Stargate universe in the same way Wormhole Xtreme does. Someone who either viewed that reality using some Ancient technology, or someone who came from that reality, made it into a television series. That's how it was able to be referenced in "200". Of course, since this was a fictionalised version, the actors didn't look like the "real" Moya crew any more than the Wormhole Xtreme crew looked like SG-1, thereby avoiding Celebrity Paradox.
Variation: Cameron Mitchell and Vala are actually John Crichton and Aeryn Sun
- Seeing as wornholes are a common feature in both universes they both tried to escape together but with realitiy differences the universe has to reset itself to allow them both to exist there hence they lived completely different lives from day one.
After the other ascended beings in the diner (from the episode "Threads") witnessOma willingly sacrifice herself to distract Anubis, they create a mini-universe andseal them away forever. Anubis is forced into an insectoid body (as appears in the Lexx episode "Giga Shadow") ,cosigned to a corner of the universe where no other life exists.
Oma, in a momment of hubris, tries re-creating humanity, but they are twisted distortions whom cannot ascend. Heartbreakingly she realizes a further part of her punishment: They will never be the humans she one knew and loved. She succeeds only in creating the Brunnen-G whom she instructs to guard against Anubis/The Giga Shadow. But Anubis creates more of his kind in secret thus leading to the Insect Wars. As the last survivor,furious at his loss, has hid in an asteroid, biding his time. (As seen in the flashbacks during the first series/movies)
Oma, fatigued, uses the last of her ascended power to create a separate universe where humanity can forever be safe as Anubis/The Giga-Shadow can not enter. However, many humans decide to not follow the Brunnen-G into her universe. She is further punished by the othersis to witness the humans here are biologically compatible with Anubis's essence. Furtheringher punishment for interference she witnesses the birth of the Divine Order: An entire cultworshiping him the god he always wanted to be in the other universe/plane of existance. Furthermore,she witnesses His Divine Shadow encourage his worshipers to pervert science into the abominations we see:
1: The Divine Assasins. Humans brought back from death to serve as mindless hunters, boundto His Divine Will. (Seen in 'I Worship his Shadow')
2:The Queen, Wyst. A gruesome twist on the Goa'uld parasite (seen in "Eating Pattern")
3:The Bad Carrots. A gruesome twist on the Replicators. (seen in Season four's 'Bad Carrot')
This final onslaught, in a BreakTheHaughty move forces Oma into a HeroicBSOD Hence, she withdraws and is the reason Lexx has no real BigGood. She finally comes to understand direct interference with so-called "Lowers" is asking for tragedy of the most epic proportions.
Stan, Xev, and Kai are led as an example by the other ascended beings in how to conduct matters using no direct interference. (The is also why they let Danial in the real world getaway with 'Rescuing' Jack O'Neill)
And so, Anubis's final punishment comes to fruition: An endless cycle of time which he isbarely cognizant. One where he rules supreme over 20,000 planets but is always destroyed.
While this may seen as overly harsh, remember that the "Others", which the Ancient Ascendantbeings MAY only be a small part of, were willing to let ALL life in the Milky Way be destroyed. Alternately, the verse maybe a punishment solely for Oma or Morgan Le Fay,Possibly the entirety of the Ascended Ancients. (seeing events inside the Lexx verse butunable to help)
- Um, what possible reason would Kira have for killing Hammond? He kills criminals (and people who try to stop him, when he can get away with it). Hammond definitely wasn't a criminal, and would have no reason to try to stop him since it's not his jurisdiction and he's got bigger problems than a Serial Killer (i.e. keeping the entire planet from being overrun by aliens).
- Dumbledore's body was never shown after his death because he Ascended to a Higher Plane of Existence. After Harry's temporary death in book 7, Dumbledore attempted to ascend him as well. (Compare the "celestial train station" scene in Deathly Hallows to what Daniel experienced prior to his ascension.)
- Harry Potter Comics may embrace this idea, with members of the SGC being involved with a Christmas Eve plot of Voldemort. First seen in this comic
- OOOO!!! Diagon Alley is out of phase!!!!!
- Wizards and Muggles could be the second evolution's version of the Ori and the Altereans, only with the the mystical ones outranking the science-y ones this time.
After the end of the show, the Tau'ri pacify the Lucian Alliance and use alien tech on Earth and Earthly gumption elsewhere to bring about what amounts to a Golden Age for everyone. Then it all goes to crap in World War III. The loss of a great superpower leaves the Milky Way in a pretty bad place. Use of bioweapons on worlds with stargates leads to speciation, and those worlds bury their stargates, while worlds without stargates, who were on the outside of this trade bonanza, rise and become very powerful. The chemicals to come out of Area 51's research into tretonin leads to the first wave of narcotics the humans gave to their soldiers during this time, but this ultimately gets watered down to just drugs. Eventually, by the time the Federation is founded, the legend of the Tau'ri is held up as an example but no-one can remember where they lived.
- I like this very much. The only issue is Star Trek: Voyager would have found it easier to get home.
- All surviving instances of Stargate technology were stolen by the Iconians.
- Would that would make this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM2cmSWysZk video where the Enterprise D discovers Destiny canon]?
- In addition, widespread knowledge of at least the theory of Ascension during the downfall of civilization led to a lot of people tying it as a means of escape. Of course, not many of them got it quite right, leading to all those weirdo energy beings from TOS.
- The only snag with this is that Star Trek: The Original Series exists in the Stargate-verse. O'Neill wanted to name the Prometheus "The Enterprise". And During "1969", while being interrogated, one of the names he gives for himself is James T. Kirk.
- After traveling back in time, let us add! Not to mention that later in the episode, they got sent farther into the future than intended so somebody could send them back like it was no big deal. Who's to say someone else couldn't have also used time travel to make a TV show about their own recent history?
- As an addition to the above, I'd suggest the parasites from the TNG episode "Conspiracy" may have actually been Goa'uld or at least a related lifeform. Given both the Unas and Goa'uld apparently developed on the same planet, it's possible another lifeform did. Most likely, this species shared a common evolution with the Goa'uld and then split and diverged into two distinct species. Like the Goa'uld, they greatly increased the strength and regenerative ability of the host.
- Also, as a fun note, though not actually explained, in the episode "Haven" from the first season of TNG there was a reference that, "An incoming vessel has bypassed our stargate, violating our law." The definition on Memory Alpha (the Star Trek wikia for anyone not a fan) is "A stargate was an entryway into a star system" but I suspect that's more of a guess (a stargate was the thing they bypassed when coming into the solar system; so it must be the entryway). I personally choose to interpret this as Haven being one of the few planets left with a working stargate in the 24th century and preferring strangers to travel there by that method (perhaps from a nearby planet also with a working stargate) rather than by a ship with weapons.
- After traveling back in time, let us add! Not to mention that later in the episode, they got sent farther into the future than intended so somebody could send them back like it was no big deal. Who's to say someone else couldn't have also used time travel to make a TV show about their own recent history?
- It would also explain what happened in the episode 'Absolute Power'.
Though it might seem a stretch, both Jacks have relatively similar personalities (though Jack Carter is less sarcastic, possibly softened by his mother’s influence) and have similar roles in their respective series as the character who lacks the scientific knowledge of those around them but who’s often called in to a heroic rescue or who’ll come up with the simple but effective idea the others miss. In fact the reason Jack Carter’s able to save Eureka so many times is virtually identical to the reason the Asgard recruit humanity (Sam in particular) to help fight the Replicators. We’re “dumb enough” to think in ways they can’t.
Sam and her father even have had an initially strained relationship, probably not dissimilar to what Jack Carter and Zoe (who does look a bit like Sam and has a genius level IQ like her) would have ended up with if they hadn’t bonded in Eureka. It’s not so impossible to think that Zoe Carter could be Sam Carter’s granddaughter.
This would place Eureka and Stargate in the same universe. While at first this might seem bizarre, consider the Atlantis episode “Brain Storm”. It could have easily played out as a Eureka plot. While having the theoretical details behind a dimension bridge would offer little practical application with modern real world technology, if we suppose that some of the scientists working on the project had been to Eureka then it suddenly makes it a lot more plausible that they would be able to make something practical out of it (and knowing Eureka that it would go completely wrong).
As for how it’s possible for Sam and O’Neill to be Jack Carter’s parents, he was born in 1969. While it’s tempting to try to link that to the episode of the same name, I have another theory. What if the Jack Carter’s parents were actually the Jack and Sam who were back in 3000 B.C. at the end of Moebius? They started out living out their lives there but eventually Sam got pregnant and they decided they wanted to raise their kid in the present. They found a way to travel forwards in time to 1969 (probably involving going through the Stargate and even making use of another solar flare, though maybe some alien made contact with Earth and was able to provide them stasis facilities). They may have intended to get back to their own time originally but were so happy to just end up somewhere after the invention of television and indoor plumbing that they decided 1969 was close enough.
O’Neill wanted to name his son after him but there was already a teenage Jack O’Neill running around out there (and another with one ‘l’ and no sense of humour). Plus with Sam being a bit of a feminist and naturally supporting the women’s rights movement of the time, they decided to give the kid her last name.
As an added twist, the use of the Moebius O’Neill and Carter could explain why O’Neill ended up with fish in his pond: The 3000 B.C. version of O’Neill put some there in 1969 so that they’d be there when he went fishing later in life (possibly with the intention of messing with himself when he saw the tape and realised things weren’t as they were supposed to be).
To get farther away from Jack and establish himself as his own person, he transferred to a High School in a small town in Washington State. While there, he befriended a beautiful but clumsy girl, who started seeing one of the really attractive but very creepy Cullens.
In much the same vein as the above, and wanting to go somewhere warm that was in striking distance of somewhere interesting, Clo'Neill headed to California. Specifically, because it wasn't that far from LA, to a town called Sunnydale...
Stargate and the Cthulhu Mythos all share the same universe. The Cthulhu Mythos is heavily based on Egyptian mythology, like Stargate. Nyarlathotep in particular acts like a Goa'uld. Nyarlathotep looks like an ancient Egyptian who suddenly appears suddenly in 1920, possesses knowledge of advanced technology, and whose entire modus operandi is to get more and more people under his control. Like Hathor, it is possible that Nyarlathotep was imprisoned inside his sarcophagus after the Tau'ri rebellion.
At the Mountains of Madness does seem to tie in with the Beta Gate in Antarctica. The story tells of an expedition that uncovers ancient alien artifacts (and more) in 1930. The expedition uncovers a vast complex that speaks of a highly advanced - and alien - civilization on Antarctica (the Ancient outpost perhaps?). The structure bears witness to a decline in living standards and the occupants now are horrific non-humanoid aliens that seem to be just scraping by at best. By the time SG-1 rediscovers the outpost, they are no more.
Conan the Barbarian is also part of the Cthulhu Mythos. Guess who played Conan? That’s right. Jason Momoa. The author of Conan, Robert E. Howard, specifically states that Conan takes place in the “Hyperborean Age” which begins sometime after the sinking of Atlantis. I’m sure Howard was referring to the classical Atlantis of the ancient Greeks, but it fits surprisingly well in the Stargate universe. Cimmeria could easily be a continent on Ronan’s home planet. After Atlantis sinks and the Ancients depart from the Pegasus galaxy, most of the humans on the various planets live in societies much like Conan’s.
Other relatives of Stargate characters could include Randolph Carter - the sometimes hero of the Cthulhu universe - could obviously be related to Sam in some way.
Of course, if it’s true that Stargate and the Cthulhu Mythos share the same universe, then that means Destiny is in for a rough ride. The message that the Ancients picked up from the center of the universe, the reason why they built Destiny in the first place, is Azathoth. Azathoth is the one who made the old gods and now sits in the center of the universe, eternally sleeping. Another, lesser god is there with him, constantly playing music (the message Destiny picks up) for if he awakes then the universe will be destroyed.
- Also the SG-1 is the actual Avatar Team.
- The eponymous starship Dark Star has the registration "ADC 2238-5531." That's USAF (United States Air Force) nomenclature. ADC for a (reactivated) version of the USAF Air Defense Command (1946-1950, 1951-1968) or Aerospace Defense Command (1968-1980). Both of the Cheyenne Mountain Complex.
- The starship Dark Star uses hyperdrive for FTL travel.
- The crew of the Dark Star receives transmissions from a USAF base or a USAF controller based in Antartica. The crew are U.S. Air Force.
- Their container sized Thermosteller device is capable of vaporizing a planet. The 22nd Century version of a Naquadah bomb on steroids?