Ziro the Hutt wasn't saved by Cad Bane for altruistic reasons.
Jabba the Hutt hired Cad Bane and his crew sometime after the Clone Wars movie to go after Ziro for playing a major role in kiddnapping his son for the Hutts to ally themselves with the Separatists, so when Bane arrives back at Jabba's palace, it's Rancour feeding time!
- Confirmed: Ziro had incriminating evidence against the Hutts, and they wanted him to give them the evidence. He didn't...He wasn't fed to a Rancor, but he did bite it.
The narrator of the SW Battlefront II campaign is Captain Rex.
Anyone who's played Star Wars: Battlefront
II knows that the 501st legionnaire who provides the narration for the campaign missions sounds exactly like Captain Rex.
- So do all the other clones, since they're all cloned from the same person.
- Actually, each clone is voiced slightly differently. Play Star Wars: Republic Commando. It throws 'all clones sound the same' right out the window.
- Funny thing about that: "Boss" (the player character) was voiced by Temuera Morrison, "Scorch" and "Fixer" had different voice actors, and "Sev" was suggested to be a little... off from the standard. All clone character sound different, even the clone NPCs not in your squad don't sound exactly the same.
In Children Of The Force
, Cad Bane had a minor Freak Out
when he overheard Ahsoka telling the Gungan child's mother, "Your daughter is safe now," prompting him to snap, "You really believe that?" Cad Bane may have a Force-sensitive relative hidden away somewhere, in hopes of hiding them from the deadly conflicts of the Clone Wars, and Bounty Hunts to provide for them, or alternately, that same relative may have been killed
in the Wars, which explains Bane's seemingly bitter vendetta against Jedi.
Option 1: A horrible Noodle Incident
- Let's hope not; the quality of a cold merc character tends to tank when you give them too much artificial sympathy, so let's just say he wants money for its own sake and leave it at that.
- That doesn't mean you can't use it as a reason for his callous nature. As long as it's done in a way to not give sympathy, and just explain.
- Perhaps he has/had a relative who was taken for Jedi training.
, which will end up being the reason why Anakin hasn't been promoted to the Jedi Council as of Revenge of the Sith
; to the point where nobody brings her up
to Anakin's face for fear of him flipping out and killing people
. She may:
Option 2: Order 66
- Option 1A: Turn to The Dark Side, resulting in Anakin having to Shoot the Dog,
- Nearly happened in the Mortis trilogy after the Son ( Dark Side Incarnate) poisoned her with the dark side.
- It's always a possibility that she could turn. She's not seen or mentioned anywhere in Episode III, and may well die before Order 66. Her death is just yet another building block for Palpatine to eventually turn Anakin to The Dark Side, who will be revealed (to the viewers) to somehow have been responsible for Ahsoka joining Anakin as his Padawan in the first place.
- Option 1Aa: Ahsoka founds the Emperor's Hands. For those unfamiliar, the Hands were Palpatine's Force-trained spies and assassins. There's plenty of talk about how "alike" Anakin and Ahsoka are, so it may be possible that Palpatine corrupts and turns her as well, only much more covertly, turning her into the first Hand. The Hands were obliquely mentioned early in the series when Palpatine kidnaps the Force-sensitive children, so this isn't entirely implausible.
- Option 1B: Make a critical and fatal mistake in battle, leaving Anakin with Survivor Guilt.
- Option 1C: Frozen In Carbonite or something similar, but in a way where most everyone thinks she's dead, save Anakin, who, by this point, will be widely regarded as highly unstable. She then will get thawed out so as to hang out with Luke, or maybe even Cade Skywalker.
- Option 1D: Lose her connection to the Force, becoming a modern day Jedi Exile.
- Option 1E: Reassigned Anakin is going to screw up, Majorly. The Jedi Council will punish him by reassigning Ahsoka to a different Master. This will fuel Anakin's resentment of the Council, accelerating his fall to the Dark Side.
- Option 1F: Defect or be expelled from the Jedi Order: Disgusted with what she has seen, both physically and psychically, of her Master's descent down the slippery slope, and Obi-Wan and the Council's tacit approval of Anakin's actions, Ahsoka will lodge a complaint and will subsequently leave or be forced to leave the Order. Anakin will not take this well, and will engage her, or those responsible for her expulsion in a very public lightsaber battle. (Or some other, likewise emotionally volatile display of Force) The council, witnessing Anakin's attachment-based actions, will refuse to promote him to the Jedi Council, while Ahsoka will go into hiding, narrowly dodging the mass execution of the Jedi Knights.
- Option 1G: Die particularly senselessly or cruelly, or simply appear to. Filled with memories of his mother's similarly ignominious death at the hands of the Sand People, Anakin will respond to the apparent death of his quasi-surrogate daughter by having another vengeful, rage-filled episode that leaves multiple people dead. The full circumstances and extent of his rampage are obscured by wartime violence, but Obi-Wan, and by extension, the council, are left with deep-seated suspicions of his instability. Thus, they do not promote him to the Jedi council. If Ahsoka recovers, having likewise suspected or outright witnessed his actions, she'll go into hiding as above, only keeping quiet out of vestigial loyalty. The sudden, suspicious circumstances of her departure will only further the council's reluctance to promote him.
Alternately, if Ahsoka survives or remains active as a Jedi throughout the Clone Wars, she's left with two branching paths to take:
Option 3: Survive Order 66, but perish later.
- Option 2A: Die during the execution of Order 66: Self-Explanatory.
- Alternately, Discover the truth about Palpatine shortly before its enactment, but be killed before she can tell anyone.
- Option 2B: Survive Order 66 and play a role in the upcoming live action series, possibly as a Bad Ass Action Girl.
- It follows that, in this eventuality, she will die at some point in that series.
- Heres a thought, in The Force Unleashed series, you (as Starkiller) tie up Vader's loose ends. What if one of those loose ends happens to be another of his former apprentices? They use the same style as of yet, maybe one of them notices etcetera.
- Alternatively, Anakin gives her a heads up. Bascily, Anakin, still feeling a bit protective of Ahsoka, warns her to get out of there, or invites her to join him. Weither Palpatine agrees or disagrees with ths is depending on if he views Ahsoka as another tool to ensure Anakin's loyalty.
- Even as Vader, Ahsoka would be the last person still alive that he truly cared about, and he most likely would fake her death and tell her to go far away out of both his and the Empire's reach. This would reveal that there is still good left in him and foreshadow his ultimate sacrifice to come in Return of the Jedi. Bonus points if Ahsoka also had some kind of vision seeing this and tells him that there's still hope for him, right before she leaves.
Option 4: Quit for entirely mundane reasons
- She's out of Republic Space, or on a deep cover mission, or otherwise not available during the events of Episode 3. Maybe Rex and crew either don't get the Order 66 memo or have enough development to disobey it. Still, the Purge manages to do a pretty good job of hunting down survivors. I figured that Vader does have to kill her himself... assuming he can't turn her. It's Personal, and he's the type who would want to be hands-on with this. But, there's a witness. He's too young to understand, and he never will get the necessary information to make sense of it because Vader will never speak of it... but the incident sticks in his head, as does the very unorthodox Shien grip he saw Ahsoka using. Her sacrifice leaves him with just enough doubts about his master to turn against him later...
- One of the safest ways for the writers to ensure that she doesn't die is to have her quit and take up a more safe job or simply go back to her family for whatever reason. Maybe she could fall in love, but then decide that it's more important then being a Jedi?
- This is implied in the Mortis trilogy, when she sees force ghost of a grown up version of herself.
- Perhaps she'll end up like Jolee Bindo and live as a hermit on a Mid or Outer Rim planet.
And the winner is (drum roll please)... leaves the Order, but it isn't quite over yet
Ahsoka is a distant cousin of Shaak Ti
Meaning the "family" kind of "distant cousin", not just being the same species.
The Lemurs from the Dreamworks' Madagascar
franchise got hold of the Penguins' tech and migrated en mass to the planet featured in "Jedi Crash" and "Defenders of Peace".
The lemurs all gained Irish accents from particles in the air and decided on ways of pacificism and decreed no royal Lemur family.
Jabba's son Rotta will die and that leads him to an extreme amount of guilty eating
It seems in the prequels he and other members of his species are fat but able to move by themselves and since he's never mentioned in the original trilogy and Jabba is massive in "Return of the Jedi" (excluding appearance in the digital remastered "New Hope"). Rotta was probably killed in a rival criminal clan's plot against Jabba and so after getting his revenge he just ate and ate until he was morbidly obese.
Based solely on a comment from Yoda in the s3 preview:
The series isn't a midway between AotC and RotS.Instead it's set in its own alternate timeline.
This will be shown by the clear onscreen no doubt about it death of someone who was still alive
in Rot S
- I really hope this happens. Right now (as of Altar of Mortis) the series is in a VERY good spot to break away from canon. The next episode's teaser even questions whether or not we can trust our Foregone Conclusion.
- Jossed, since the Father seems to think Anakin becoming Vader will bring balance.
Ahsoka is closely related to Ashla
Ashla could even be Ahsoka's little sister, their ages match up. The force runs in the family.
The cylinder Asajj Ventress tried to steal from Kamino would have been used to create clones loyal to the Separatists.
Clones loyal to the Separatists would essentially make the perfect spies.
- The Geonosians and the Sith are responsible for his creation, who's to say they didn't go so far as making him think his alterations were of his own choosing?
- Or, maybe he's just ashamed of being Dooku's pawn and doesn't want to admit that the alterations were Dooku's idea. He's managed to convince himself that he chose the modifications, and he has expended a lot of money to make a shrine to his "transformation" to keep up the act. Wishful thinking, but Grievous doesn't think of it that way.
There will be massive downer-ending episode where every inmate of the republic prison(s?) will break out.
- Wat Tambor, Poggle the Lesser, Bossk and Boba are under arrest by the republic. Through the appearances of Poggle and Tambor in Revenge of the Sith they somehow have to get out. Why not let the droid army infiltrate the prison and stage a mass-breakout to free their leaders and damage the Coruscant and Republics citizens lives.
- A corollary to this is that Ahsoka will either die or be crippled to the point of retirement trying to combat the breakout, which is why she was MIA by the time of Revenge Of The Sith.
- Perhaps as a direct lead into the start of Rot S; free the prisoners, attack Coruscant, kidnap Palpatine.
- That's my headcanon until the Mouse Overlord declares otherwise. While attacking Coruscant with the intent to kidnap Palpatine, a second, smaller strike force was dispatch to release Wat Tambor, Poggle the Lesser, and any other Separatists who'd been captured along the way. Due to their importance to the cause, they were quickly put on a shuttle to Utapau while Grievous overwhelmed Palpatine's security forces. Thus, the Separatist leaders were able to escape before Obi-Wan and Anakin's reinforcements arrived and cut off Grievous from retreating with his valuable hostage.
In the last episode, Ahsoka ends up saving the galaxy
in some way, shape, or form. The screen fades to black with everyone cheering for Ahsoka, leaving the viewers with a grin on their faces... but it's not over.
Suddenly, a scene starts showing Ahsoka sleeping in a dark room for a few seconds. Then, a dark figure slowly walks in, and a lightsaber turns on.
You know the rest.
This show is an AU of the main Star Wars
Specifically, an alternate timeline. The Clone Wars lasted for three years, and I doubt this series could fit into the timeline with the animated Clone Series and all the EU stories. Plus Grievous has his cough, and he didn't get this until Mace Windu Force Crushed his chest. In this timeline, the Clone Wars went on longer.
- Jossed. The canon policy says The Clone Wars is in the T-canon which means it overrides basically everything except the movies.
...is not really alive.
Mother Talzin's revelation of Savage Opress's surviving brother
may very well be just another in a long line of deceptions. After all, she was quite clear about him being a "pawn"; it's entirely possible that when Savage makes his way to the Outer Rim, all he'll find is a Nightsister assassin squad waiting to take him out, his usefulness
having long since expired.
- If she wanted him dead, it would have been easy enough to do while he was laying heavily wounded at her feet. Furthermore, Mother Talzin almost seemed to sabotage the Dooku assassination plot on purpose - telling the Jedi where to find Savage and demanding that Ventress strike prematurely. It's hard to say what game she's playing at this point, but she probably has a use for him yet.
- That, and the fans will crucify the writers if they pull a bait and switch like that.
- Or more than likely, what Savage finds is just a force ghost of Maul.
The series will end with Ahsoka's death.
With all the focus on her character ever since the Pilot Movie
, she'll likely go out in a massive Heroic Sacrifice
and be posthumously given the rank of Jedi Knight by the entire Council. The last few minutes will also directly lead into the beginning of Episode III
, followed by a Flash Forward
to the very end of Return of the Jedi
in which Ahsoka meets Anakin again for the first time in over twenty years (as Force Ghosts) and says that she always had faith that he'd come back.
The series is an Alternate Universe
from the end of Episode II
. Anakin will not
fall and Palpatine will ultimately end up being defeated.
Ahsoka Tano is nowhere seen or even mentioned by anyone in Revenge of the Sith
, meaning that she has either died by this point (see above), or was never assigned to be Anakin's Padawan. She is assigned to someone else, or never becomes a Padawan at all, and most likely perishes in Order 66. Aside from seeing her training in the Temple from time to time, neither Anakin or Obi-Wan knew her.
Ahsoka's presence will end up changing everything, and in fact might have done so already. Battles that were once lost are now won (and vice-versa), but overall she will be the one that will tether Anakin to not fall to The Dark Side
and succeed in fulfilling his destiny.
In effect, this series is the result of What if Anakin Skywalker had a Padawan?
The final scene may show an aged Luke Skywalker coming out of some sort of trance, having been shown by The Force
the results of that question. Whether it was All Just a Dream
or if he indeed was shown another universe will not be made clear
- It probably won't be made clear, since Lucas seems to want this to be the canon Clone Wars, instead of the original. The existence of Ashoka Tano has triggered a For Want of a Nail timeline.
The Father, Obi-Wan and Yoda all faded into the force because...
They were all embodiments of the will of the Force, guiding Anakin to his true destiny. When they "died", the returned to the Force, because they are essentially The Force anyway.
The show isn't Republic/Imperial propaganda, but it is Palpatine's pet project.
Remember, it's canon than he wrote a play called 'The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise', which is essentially autobiographical. These films are things he does to relax, instead of sleeping.
The show takes place in an alternate timeline
Specifically, there's a reason Ahsoka is never mentioned in any of the movies or anything taking place after Revenge of the Sith
: She didn't exist in the "main" timeline. The show is a huge What If?
, and she will end up being the major turning point that prevents
Anakin from becoming Darth Vader. The final episodes of the show will be a mirror of the end of Episode III, only with Ahsoka there to act as Anakin's Morality Pet
The Father may have mostly erased Anakin's experiences with what the Son showed him, but they still remain in his subconsious, though it took a significant amount of time for these remnants to surface, and only then, it's only one particular fragment.
The series is a continuity reboot.
Of the Clone Wars. It seems impossible that this series could fit with Episode III, and that's just ignoring the other Clone Wars series. What I think is happening is that George Lucas felt the Clone Wars arc needed some improvement. And, by extension, Anakin's ultimate fall. For this reason, he felt the need for a Morality Pet
. Or rather, a Morality Chain
. This show will end with an edited, alternate Episode III. In this, the cause of Anakin's turn to the dark side will be due to Ashoka's death. It will make him more vulnerable, and explain his determination to save Padme at any costs. In short, this is Lucas's plan to make a better Face-Heel Turn
for Ani. Even if no one buys it, the Clone Wars themselves are fleshed out.
Ahsoka Tano will survive, and will swear vengeance on the Skywalker bloodline after Anakin's betrayal.
I don't know about you, but I just can't see them killing off Ahsoka in a kids' show. Perhaps she'll die in the comics, but my theory for if she survives will be that she sees Anakin's massacre of the Jedi Temple, learns about his relationship with Padme, then goes to her homeworld of Shili to perform the Togrutan blood oath ritual. A Togrutan blood oath is a promise that cannot be broken, and is carried down through the bloodline of the person performing the ritual. This means that any descendants of Ahsoka are condemned to fulfill this promise. Ahsoka will swear a blood oath to wipe the Skywalker bloodline from the face of the galaxy, leading her to try to kill Luke and Leia at certain points in the GCW era.
The series will end with two separate endings
A "Light Side" Ending and a "Dark Side" Ending. The Dark Side would lead into the canon ending, the Light Side would explore what would've happened if Anakin never fell to the Dark Side. All the games have been doing it, and it'd be pretty awesome. Not only that, showing what would've happened had Anakin never fell to the Dark Side would make the real canon even more tragic.
- You know, that would be pretty flipping awesome. I support this theory. The sad thing is that the only people who are likely to get it are the gamers, those familiar with KOTOR or the games that explore what you've said. However... you could establish it in nice context for those unfamiliar if crafted right. A surviving main character later on (Ahsoka? Rex? Fives?) is telling the canon/dark side ending to someone in the future (assuming they survive), then one of the people they're talking to asks, "What could of happened?", leading to this. Even play it like some of the games like Galactic Battlegrounds did for some of the battles (IE, Grassy Plains, Endor, etc.) where it's explored alternative paths the battle could of taken.
I agree this is a great idea! It makes me think of this comic Darth Vader and the Lost Command
, set a month or so after Episode III, which contains a few thoughts Vader has of what could have happened if things had gone differently: he saves Mace Windu from Palpatine, becomes the leader of the Jedi, and about 10-ish years later Padmé is Supreme Chancellor and (hopefully) brings peace to the galaxy. An important point is where to make the split between the two endings (it would have to happen near the end in any case). I’m thinking it could happen at Ahsoka’s death (if that happens). Anakin has to make a choice between murdering the killer in cold blood (like he did with the Tusken Raiders in Episode II) or using an alternate approach that uses the light side (such as Luke in Episode VI), which is the branch into the two endings.
The first choice has Anakin kill the killer shortly before the others show up (so they don't know he did it). Anakin tells everyone afterwards to never speak of Ahsoka again, as her loss is too painful for him, and the episode ends immediately before the start of Episode III.
The second choice would have Anakin realize how he’s moving towards the dark side, and makes a decision to not continue to do so. Sometime afterwards the Jedi find out that Palpatine = Sidious, then the events of Episode III happen, some of them similarly (Obi-Wan defeats Grievous, Padmé gives birth, etc.), but others differently, with Anakin defeating Sidious, Order 66 never happening, etc. Finally the episode cuts to about 10 years later, with Anakin leading the Jedi, Supreme Chancellor Amidala, and a closing narration along the lines of "they brought peace to the whole galaxy."
The Clones are going to kill Krell by the end of the Umbara arc.
Come on, Rex isn't going to take Krell's attitude forever. He pulled a lightsaber on Fives
for crying out loud. I could actually see a Clone Trooper axing him and everyone just instantly agrees not to talk about it in the future. It also sets up Order 66 nicely, considering this IS the 501st. Alternatively, Anakin shows up to find Krell doing something similar to what he did to Fives and flips out, engaging Krell in a lightsaber duel that either ends with Anakin killing Krell or a Clone Trooper stepping in to save Anakin via blasting Krell, and again everyone just tacitly agrees not to talk about it. Seriously, Krell acts like Traviss' stereotype of a Jedi commander. Only so long before he crosses the Moral Event Horizon
- Order 66: In the event of Jedi officers acting against the interests of the Republic, and after receiving specific orders verified as coming directly from the Supreme Commander (Chancellor), GAR commanders will remove those officers by lethal force, and command of the GAR will revert to the Supreme Commander (Chancellor) until a new command structure is established.
Krell does something way too bloody, which qualifies as acting against the interests of the Republic in Rex's book. Rex requests Chancellor's confirmation to execute the Order, Palpatine gladly gives it. Troopers kill Krell, the Jedi Council is given the explanation about Krell joining Dooku or something.
- As of "The Carnage of Krell", This has been confirmed, done in by a blaster bolt from Dogma.
Palpatine recalling Anakin from Umbara and replacing him with Krell is part of his ongoing strategy to push Anakin towards the Dark Side.
Palpatine is already no doubt aware of Anakin's attachment issues, he's no doubt aware of Krell's record for highest clone mortality rate, and he deliberately pulls Anakin away from an important battle that's already likely to have high casualties and replaced him with what has to be the
worst Jedi General the Republic has. There's no way that Palpatine isn't trying to get Anakin's favorite clone commander killed along with countless other clones that Anakin has no doubt grown attached to and give his future apprentice something else to angst about 'not being strong enough' over.
- OR he'll send Anakin back to Umbara at the last moment, so Skywalker could see the Jedi Master's deeds and confront him about it, leading Anakin to another confrontation with the Jedi Order, seeding him with doubt of the Council's wisdom.
Near the end of the series, Sidious will start to lose his faith in Dooku due to his constant failures.
Another reason why he ordered Anakin to execute him at the beginning of Episode III
. Another factor is him learning that Ventress is still alive, he'll believe Dooku lied to him or got sloppy in killing her.
- Or alternatively, Dooku will lose faith in his master. He could be internally disappointed in his Sidious' cruelty, but it could be for the best.
Near the end of the series, Nute Gunray and Rune Haako will become fed up with the war.
They are tired of losing their battles and losing money. They are tired of missed opportunities in capturing Padme. And tired of Sidious' deceiving. In the end, they decided they just want peace and want the war to be done with. This all leads up to their fates at the end of Episode III
Grievous will have a comeback.
After several episodes of losing, and many Villain Decay
moments, he'll start to come by again. Maybe the directors will realize he needs to be more menacng or frightnening, when it suits them. Like, the character himself will be enraged by his own ineptitude and irrelevance to the Separatist cause and face a bunch of Red Shirt
jedi and Kill Them All
- He gets one in "Massacre", which is exactly what it sounds like: Grevous and the droid army actually get to inflict some damage for once.
- YMMV on that one. He can´t even deal with Ventress alone and has to call his troops for help. He really needs to finally win a lightsaber fight by himself again.
The episodes "Corrpution" and "Academy" are a lead up to the conclusion of Mandalores story.
The Duchess will continue to be completely incompetent at her job while still being insufferable about it. Burning down that warehouse full of evidence even knowing it better wasn´t for having an acceptable special effects/action scene in the otherwise boring episode, it was intentional. When the headmaster of the school said the budget was too small he was right, only because of the tea deal he got enough money for the school and just in a coincidence something for himself. All of "Corruption"s problems are traceable to the Duchess. She just had to give a parade for Padmé when she casually visited the world, which was the reason why there was only one officer at the docks so he could be bribed without any problem. This will be made public through Death Watch spies. They will bring the people to rebel against this incompetent monarchy and after Satines death/exile Death Watch will be a "temporary" government and reinstates the former Mandalore.
As further evidence: We already saw the people from TCW writing illogical things and explaining them later. That Zabraks were from another planet than Dathomir was explained an episode later, General Krells problem with leading clones likewise. Mandalores retcon problem is far too big to be ignored entirely.
- Well, at least they rebelled.
Palpatine is behind the pacifist faction of the Mandalorians being in power.
And likely on several other Proud Warrior Race Guy
planets too. After all, we wouldn't want non-Clone soldiers mucking up the scene or replacing the Jedi as generals, now would we?
- Doubtful, given the work Palpatine puts in to depose Satine and her government. Plus, I don't see how they would have 'mucked up' the scene more than any other soldiers coming from other planets.
- Actually, that has a lot to do with an attempted purge of the Mandalorians perpetrated by the Republic some 700 years before TCW. The New Mandalorians took power during restructuring in the centuries after that. They had originally existed as a faction that wanted to have Mandalorian Space join the Republic to instantly become one of its most influential members, but were shouted down because that would lead to fewer wars and the belief that a Mandalorian not in combat is not a Mandalorian. This was covered briefly in The Essential Guide to Warfare.
Mother Talzin is not truly an ally of Ventress or Savage.
She's just a sociopath who is enjoying setting various people and groups against each other
. Ventress against Dooku, Dooku against the Jedi, the Jedi against Savage, Savage against everybody; No one benefits from all this, except possibly Talzin herself, for whatever goal she has in mind (if she has a goal at all
Ventress will come crawling back to Dooku.
Her first attempt at finding a new place for herself clearly didn't work out very well; while she got her money, she still failed to find her niche and ended up on her own again by the end. Eventually, facing the harsh galaxy alone, with no sisters or friends to support her, will prove too difficult, forcing Asajj to swallow her pride and try returning to Dooku. He'll surely punish her for her betrayal, but since his prospects with Savage have long since dried up and there are no other apprentices available for him, he'll grudgingly take her back under his wing...just long enough to send her to fight in the Battle of Boz Pity
, where she meets the fate we all knew was coming to her
Dengar still becomes a cyborg later in life.
His appearance in "Bounty" merely takes place a while before the disastrous swoop race on Corellia that horribly mutilated his head and forced him to become a cyborg. After that, he specifically patterned the bandages he used to conceal his head-circuitry after the mundane headwrap he wore in his younger days, so as to make it look less conspicuous. Taking this to be the truth, it helps make his appearance in The Clone Wars
seem like less of a glaring continuity error. Consequently, though, it also means that he's considerably older than Han Solo. Either that, or Han was into swoop racing at the tender age of 8...
"Old Wounds" is now canon.
It was mentioned that Darth Maul would survive into Season Five, right? If that's the case, who's to say that he can't survive the whole Clone Wars, go into hiding after the rise of the Empire, and show up on Tatooine to attack young Luke a few years down the line? For further proof, take note of how Maul's second pair of cyber-legs in "Revenge" is identical to the ones he had in the comic.
- Jossed. The Death Watch gave Maul human shaped legs. It´s just a shout out apparently.
will appear in Season Five.
As revealed in Apocalypse
, the Force-wielders from the Mortis trilogy originally came from Abeloth's planet where for a time, she lived with them as The Mother. The show's creators stated that some further "answers" about the trilogy would be revealed in Season Five and this seems like a pretty important topic to cover.
- And when Abeloth makes her CW debut, odds are that the Lost Tribe of the Sith (or at least an ancestor of the Khai family) might show up as well.
Maul will die at Dooku's hand.
Think about it. Aside from Maul's goal for getting revenge on Obi-Wan, Maul would want to reclaim his place in the Rule of Two. He confronts Dooku, and the two have a duel for Sidious' apprenticeship. As Maul gains the advantage, Dooku reveals the fact that Maul was never a true Sith, as Sidious was apprenticed to Plagueis throughout Maul's Sith career. This causes Maul to lose his composure, and Dooku makes a comeback and kills Maul. Maul's dying realization that his whole life was a lie is also a great way to create sympathy for the character.
- It can't work. According to End Game, a short story by James Luceno published in the re-edition of The Phantom Menace novel, Maul has already figured out that his master and him weren't the only Sith and that Sidious' master was still around.
- Then perhaps the two still fight, Dooku tries to pull off that trick, and Maul says he already knew that? But Dooku still manages to win.
- Also, Maul apparently knows that Sidious is Palpatine. If the Jedi capture him and interrogate him, they will learn that vital fact. Palpatine, as Sidious, does not want the Jedi to learn this, so he has Maul killed.
- Jossed. Palpatine leaves Maul alive. For now.
In line with the previous entry, Dooku wants revenge for Qui-Gon's murder.
I'm thinking a three-way battle between Maul, Dooku and Obi-Wan. The latter two might have an Enemy Mine
moment and gang up on Maul. Maybe something as a shout out to the battle in Ep.I. And given Dooku's grandfatherly feelings for Obi-Wan it might work. Dooku and Obi-Wan over-power Maul, and Dooku offers Obi-Wan the killing blow because he wants him to cross over to the Dark side and become his apprentice, so he uses Qui-Gon's death as a trigger. He'll refuse and Dooku will kill Maul before the Jedi can get any information out of him about the identity of Darth Sidious.
It explains why both Maul and Galen are voiced by Sam Witwer
. They're third cousins!
The comic relief scenes with the droids are canon.
Some of the droids act the way they do due to a malfunction or bad programming. Not every droid works perfectly, but because the Separatists are engaged in a war and need every droid they can, they are sent into the field in low ranking positions where either their programming will adapt or they will get destroyed.
- This is actually somewhat canon; various appendices state that when the battle droids were modified to work independently from a central control signal, many older models had difficulty adapting and began developing bizarre personality quirks. Presumably, the droids we see saying/doing silly things are pre-Naboo models.
Palpatine sent Krell to Umbara to get him killed.
Krell had a vision of the events that would happen in Revenge of the Sith
, and thus if the Jedi found out what he had seen, they might decide to take chances and start working out on how to bring down Darth Sidious. Sidious learnt about Krell's knowledge, and decided to send him to command the 501st on Umbara. As it is a very dangerous battleground, he figured that the clones would be more likely to question Krell (of course, we don't know what other battles he has participated in, and how dangerous those worlds were - maybe Palpatine has been trying this on many hostile worlds for a while), and thus turn on him. If they succeeded in capturing him (which they do), he figured that such a great threat to the clones would lead them to decide to kill him, thus benefiting the clones and Sidious. Krell's views on the clones only would've helped his plan.
- That was actually somewhat confirmed Word of Filoni in a Forcecast interview. According to him, Palpatine did notice that Krell was drifting towards the Dark Side, and sent him to Umbara to see if he was strong enough to replace Dooku or even Anakin in his plans. If Krell got killed by the clones, Palpatine'd have had a problematic Jedi out of his way, if Krell defeated the clones, he'd have gained a new apprentice.
During the Mortis Arc Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka all had different events\ happen to them
Mortis is a weak point in reality where entering it causes you to be able to get very close to the Force. When Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka entered it they met up with the representations of the Light Side, Dark Side and Neutral side of the Force, then their adventures began to differ. We saw what happened to Anakin, but here is my theory, Anakin only saw what he thought would happen, Mortis creates events based off of the person's mind. Anakin was already slipping toward the Dark Side, so he thought that the prophecy was very literal and that balance could only be brought about through death. That is why the Son, supposedly the Dark Side of the Force was so remorseful when his sister died, Anakin saw himself in the Son and made him more sympathetic by giving him an attachment to someone. What Happened to Obi-Wan and Ahsoka was different. Obi-Wan most likely saw the balance of the Force brought about through the death of the Son and the triumph of the Daughter. His Son would most likely have not been very sympathetic, and the Father would probably act like Qui-Gon Jinn, due to Qui-Gon being a Gray Jedi. Ahsoka, being in between Obi-Wan and Anakin would most likely have the balance be brought about by having the Son, Daughter and Father make peace with each other. The Son, Daughter and Father would most likely all have had good points and bad points, to make them more relatable to her, and would most likely not have a problem with her, so much as a problem with each other.
Bossk will drive a segway
at some point.
And Maul will even state how fitting it is that he and Obi-Wan's final battle takes place there.
Huyang the droid has a Jedi holocron built inside his system.
Isn't it strange that the Jedi keep a droid for the important task of teaching the younglings how to build their first lightsabers? Not if said droid contains the holocron of an ancient Lightsaber-architect Jedi Master called Huyang, who built the droid for the exact purpose of finding a way to continue passing down his knowledge to the new generations long after he himself died!
- If this is true, it could only possibly be better if there's a flashback in which we see that the original Huyang was a human male Jedi who looked exactly like David Tennant and wielded a lightsaber shaped like 10's sonic screwdriver.
The Jedi will encounter them during a battle against the Seperatists. Things will be pretty intense between the two groups. The Gray Jedi are as much the good guys as the traditional Jedi, but unlike them, the Gray Jedi aren't bound to the rules the regular Jedi follow. For instance, some of the Gray Jedi are mentioned to be married, or at least there'll be a Gray Jedi Battle Couple
among the cast. Perhaps a Gray Jedi warrior was originally a Jedi who left the Order. The Gray Jedi tell the regular Jedi that the Jedi Code is becoming a liability and keeping the Jedi from ending the war sooner. Like in "Citadel Rescue", Obi-Wan tells them they must follow their Code, and shuns the Gray Jedi for their unconventional methods. Anakin (and maybe Ahsoka) will mostly be neutral to the arguments, but secretly prefer the Gray Jedi's methods.
I mean, c'mon, Dave Filoni himself outright states that he thought Gregor was too cool to kill off, and that he added the ambiguity of his final scene specifically to have an "out" in the case that he could be brought back. He probably jumped into cover just as the spaceport went up in flames, then hijacked a CIS transport to take back to Coruscant.
- Makes sense, given that clone commando armor is tough stuff. If Fi from the books can sit on a grenade then Gregor can live through a little explosion like that.
- Plus, no body = no death.
Bo-Katan becomes the new Mandalore instead of Spar.
Thus contradicting Karen Traviss's Republic Commando/Mando-wank novels again, because you can never have too much of that.
- Alternatively, she'll join up with Spar and Shysa, reasoning that they'd at least be better leaders for Mandalore than Maul or Almec, and end up as a leading member of the Mandalorian Protectors.
Savage was plotting to betray Maul
In "Revival", the way Maul was putting down Savage was not too different from the way Dooku was treating Savage in Season 3. He betrayed Dooku then, he was probably plotting to betray Maul during the Shadow Conspiracy arc.
Sidious plans to keep Maul as a glorified lab rat.
Partly to try and figure out how he managed to cheat death (that, of course, being one of his overarching goals), and otherwise so he can exploit his powers and abilities for future use, probably extracting his DNA for either the doppelganger that Vader eventually fights or the Maulkiller clone
and downloading his saber style into a database that will eventually become PROXY.
Maul will survive the show.
So the Maul/Vader later fights in the comic referenced above could be the real deal.
Durge will show up at the end of the season finale
Perhaps a brief cameo at the end where you see him walk into Palpatine's office escorted by Mas Ameda, asking the chancellor about who he wants him to kill.
- Didn´t happen five times in a row.
Well the series does take place in between, and it make a badass finale.
- Maybe it could be Revenge/Order 66 from Ahsoka's point of view?
- That would be awesome!
Season Six will be the last season.
Because they're gonna have to end the show at some point, ending it possibly with what happens to Ahsoka. It'll also make sense to end it on Season six because then it will have two seasons for each year of the CW (three years). And if the writers want to continue with the stories of the characters that have been introduced (Ahsoka, Lux Bonteri, Cad Bane, Hondo) they could make a sequel series which covers the gap between Revenge of the Sith
and A New Hope
- Now that Ahsoka's left the Order, this seems likely.
- This article.
RX-24 from Star Tours will make an appearance.
Either as an Easter Egg
cameo or as a character in an episode.
Ahsoka had a master before Anakin.
She was a year older than the maximum age for padawans, so that means she probably had a master before. Specifically, Knol Ven'nari
. She was killed shortly before Christophsis, and her Pyrokineses would explain Ahsoka's knack for surviving so many explosions.
The hooded assailant manipulated Ventress as well as Ahsoka.
The assailant hired Ventress to find Ahsoka and lead her to the warehouse. After Ventress completed her task, the assailant knocked her out and took her helmet and lightsabers
in order to convince Ahsoka that Ventress went back on their deal. All the assailant had to do from there was make sure that Ahsoka fell right where the box of nanodroids was located.
The hooded assailant is Barriss.
Everything just points to Barriss. She was the only one who knew about the warehouse and that Ahsoka was there. The assassin shares a very similar model and appears to have green hands.
The hooded assailant is Aurra Sing.
She was a former Jedi, after all. The curb stomping
that the assailant delivered to Ahsoka may very well have been Aurra finally going all out and unleashing her Force abilities.
Sidious is behind the attack on the Temple.
And thus, the blame being put on Ahsoka. He may have been able to turn the former Jedi to his side (be it Barriss or someone else), asked them to cause the explosion, then asked them to frame Ahsoka. His motives? At the moment, Ahsoka is Anakin's Morality Chain
, and is keeping him from turning to the dark side. With Ahsoka falsely accused and out of the way, Anakin will blame the council for what happened and be lured in by the Chancellor. Alternatively, Palpatine could betray the rogue Jedi and give Anakin vital information which captures him or her; this way, Anakin will have more trust in the Chancellor and still lose faith in the council for not acting. Ahsoka will still be around, of course, but Sidious can dispose of her another way.
- Probably jossed. Unless Barriss is covering for him, she acted alone.
- Jossed by Word of God. Filoni said in an interview, that while Palpatine might had been aware of what was going on behind the bombing, it's not likely he got himself involved in it.
Ahsoka will become a Gray Paladin, a Fallanassi, or some other kind of non-mainstream Force-user.
Seeing as she has left the Order of her own volition
, but at the same time, is clearly still a good guy and opposed to the Separatists/Sith, it's easy to assume that Ahsoka will try to continue fighting the good fight in her own way, free of the Council's obstructive influence.
- Seems to me that Onderon or Kiros would be the natural choices for her, but she may want to wipe the slate cleaner than even that.
Ahsoka and Maul's fates will be left forever unresolved due to Disney's cancellation of The Clone Wars and dissolution of the show's team
Exactly what it says
- At least for a while. Then the writers will filter back in through comics and books, and we'll get Word of Gods.
- Actually, related to this, what if...
Darth Maul will be the villain in Episode VII
Palpatine mentioned that he has "other uses" for Darth Maul. Aside from more realistic explanations like using him to learn how to cheat death or use him to find Talzin, what if Palpatine decides to use him as a plan B if the Sith fail with their current plan (which we know happened in Return of the Jedi
)? Palpatine might put him into stasis, and when the force tips in favour of the Jedi, he will be awakened. A rumour that was reported was that thirty years after RotJ, a disciple of Palpatine would try to rebuild the Sith and destroy the jedi. What if this turns out to be Maul? Disney maybe deliberately intervened
in the production of The Clone Wars
so they could have a say in the storyline (with Palpatine's other uses being a sign of potential for them), and they decide that Maul will survive because of his marketability to the public (of course, they have to explain his survival to people who haven't seen TCW though).
The Green Force techniques used by the Nightsisters are Light Side not Dark Side
Mother Talzin clamed her Green Force techniques come from the Winged Goddess which according to sources is the Daughter who is a embodiment of the Light Side. Of course that means that Green Force Lightning, Reanimation of the Dead, Body Shaping, Metal Shaping, Object Forming and of course becoming Green Mist are all Light Side techniques. It seems Yoda was telling the truth when he said the Light Side was stronger than the Dark Side. It would be easier to learn the full power of the Light Side if you could get your hands on a Nightsister Book of Law or Book of Shadows. The only benefit of the Dark Side is speed
from what has been seen.
The series will end with a different perspective of Revenge of the Sith.
It'll be through the perspective of characters introduced/developed in the series, especially Ashoka. Given what happens in Episode III
, it will be one of the darkest episodes, if not the
darkest. It'll be a Sequel Hook
to Star Wars: Rebels, where you can expect a battle between Vader and Ashoka. Considering the Foregone Conclusion
, it will be even darker.
While a lot of fans have interpreted the Dark Side as being an example of Dark Is Not Evil
being abused, and that the Sith aren't inherently evil, George Lucas
has been pretty adamant against this. After all, good versus evil
is a major aspect of Star Wars
along with redemption
. Word of God
has stated that its the dark side
that's the imbalance, and by extension the light side could be considered balance. Lucas wanted to show how, by the standards of the Star Wars
universe, balancing the dark and light sides don't work, with the Father, Son and Daughter. The family crisis was his attempt to once and for all disprove
the "Jedi and Sith need to be in balance."
- The family-crisis actually fits Lucas's claims, about "the Dark Side being the imbalance itself" pretty well. After all it was the Son who started the entire conflict, he was the one who tried to upset the existing power-balance. To me the message here seems to be more like this: naturally the Light and the Dark Side are balancing-out eachother, however the Dark Side always seeks to overthrow this balance. But to do this, it needs outside help, to tip the scales. Tus it will always seek to enslave those who have the potential to be of use in doing so. If you look at the Son's attempts to turn Anakin, (first by the promise of acting for the Greater Good, then by taking away a loved one, and finally by throwing him into despair), these are returning themes amongst the various Start of Darkness stories in Star Wars.
- Er, no. It was strongly hinted at that the Daughter getting loose would be just as bad as the son.
- Except she never tried to get loose. She might had the potential to cause disasters, but she was well aware of that, and accepted that they must remain imprisoned on Mortis. The Son on the other hand, didn't seem to care about the consicvencies of him being unleashed.
Ahsoka, Ventress, and Maul will all three make appearances in the upcoming Star Wars: Rebels series
I simply cannot imagine that they'll just abandon these characters, especially considering just how likely it is that they've all survived.
Barriss Offee will appear in the Rebels T.V show
It is my opinion at least that there is more to her than meets the eye. Also, I could see Greg Weisman have a field day with her, particularly if she was to meet Ahsoka again
When the Son somehow turned Ahsoka to the Dark Side, later we heard her voice taking on the reverbaration of the Son's. Given this, it's safe to assume, that the Son used Demonic Possession
, and transfered some of his energy to her. Later the Daughter resurrected and cured Ahsoka by transfering her own energy to her. Is it possible, that a small part of both the Son
and the Daughter
lives on, sealed inside Ahsoka
Had Anakin remained on Mortis to replace the Father, the Skywalker twins would have come to replace the Son and the Daughter.
Which sibling would embody which side of the Force is an interesting point of discussion. The Force would have contrived a way to get Padme to Mortis for this purpose.
- Yeah, and what happens to Padme? Does she end up as the new Abeloth?
- She probably would've just died of old age, as Abeloth would have if not for doing the things that turned her into an abomination.
- Let's not forget how Anakin is psychologically. If Padme was to age while he did not, he'd probably unintentionally turn her into Abeloth 2.0 trying to save her life. As movie 3 shows, he is prone to doing extremely stupid and universe damming things for good reasons (Trying to save Padme).
Star Wars has alternate universes and there are two main versions of the Clone Wars.
The films are in both universes. One universe includes the events of the TV shows and post-2008 Clone Wars comics and novels. The other universe contains the events of the pre-2008 Clone Wars comics and novels. In the former, Anakin is knighted within a year after the war begins and he has Ahsoka as an apprentice. Mace Windu smiles four months into the war during the Battle of Dantooine in Star Wars: Clone Wars.
Even Piell dies during the war. Adi Gallia is killed by Savage Oppress. The Battle of Coruscant happens as it is depicted in the show Star Wars: Clone Wars.
Boba Fett blows up his father's helmet. In the latter, Anakin is knighted thirty months into the war and has no apprentice. Mace Windu has not smiled in years, as stated in Star Wars: Shatterpoint.
Even Piell survives the Clone Wars but dies in Coruscant Knights: Jedi Twilight.
Adi Gallia is killed by General Grievous. The Battle of Coruscant happens as it is depicted in the novel Star Wars: Labyrinth of Evil.
Boba Fett uses his father's helmet. The fate and origin of Asaj Ventress differs in each universe.
- "Confirmed". From 25th Aprilt 2014, the old Star Wars Expanded Universe is officially labeled as "Star Wars Legends", and official canon includes only the six movies, "The Clone Wars", and every future entry.
The planet Yoda is going to in the Heart of the Galaxy 6x12
is [[spoiler: Tython]]
It makes sense
Ahsoka's dark side brought out by the Son is a previously-dormant separate personality.
Ahsoka was born with a severe multiple personality disorder where her mind is essentially split into two separate personas—one the innocent Padawan, the other a demented and sadistic psychopath. Her training at the temple helped her keep her psychotic other half dormant, but the Son's interference on Mortis set the wicked side of her free. After she left the Jedi she started getting plagued with unexplained blackouts and strange messages on her holocom from someone who sounded almost exactly like her. She managed to get into contact with her other half through meditation, and the two initially were at odds with one another, but after Order 66 happened they both decided they needed to learn to coexist to survive.
Moraband is the Sith homeworld only on the spiritual plane of existence.
The Yoda arc's writer, Christian Taylor, has said this arc will be similar to the Mortis trilogy. It will be only a spiritual journey and like Mortis, Moraband is physically cut off from the rest of the universe (probably explaining why we see Yoda fighting Darth Sidious) while Korriban (or whatever planet they decided to call home) remains the ancient Sith homeworld in the physical realm.
The entire series was being observed by a Flow Walking Luke and Ahsoka
Who are working to determine at what point the question of Anakin's fall changed from 'if' to 'when', and when the best period of time to change the past is. They will eventually come to decide that it is Obi-Wan's mentorship of Anakin, and go back in time and kill him in Qui-Gon's place
Moraband is the Burial site for all the Rule of Two
With the revalation that the evil Sith Spirit faced by Yoda in the finale(other than Sidious) is none other than Darth Bane
. It is very likely that Moraband is not the homeworld of the Sith per say, but rather, the Burial site for all the Rule of Two
Sith such as Darth Cognus and Darth Zannah. I can see why Bane
would want to be buried in some random planet with lots of Dark Side energy and not Korriban—-to separate the Rule of Two away from the rest, which Bane
accuses of "diluting the Poison and making it less potent".
- Partially JOSSED. Filoni specifically stated in an interview, that all Sith-illusions, with the exception of Sidious, were created by Priestesses. He also added, that according to Lucas, Sith can't Ascend to a Higher Plane of Existence on any way, because they seek physical immortality. It's been also stated that Moraband is Korriban. It's only the name it was known by the time of the Clone Wars. This was introduced, because Lucas found that the name "Korriban" didn't sound like what he'd write. However this doesn't mean that the Rule of Two Sith were not buried there.
Some of the 501st members who originated in this series may have discovered their inhibitor chips and removed them some time after the Order 66 arc.
Considering how touched Rex (and possibly Commander Fox) was by Fives' death
, he may have looked further into his claims more secretively and warned some of the 501st members closest to him (such as Jesse and Kix). It could explain why we don't see any of them in Revenge of the Sith
- Operation Nightfall: the 501st Legion under the command of the newly christened Lord Vader march on the Jedi Temple. They were technically in Episode III, they just weren't named and didn't have any lines, because honestly slaughtering younglings probably leaves most people without much desire for conversation. Also they are incredibly loyal to Anakin, if he said the Jedi had to die, and he led the charge, they would follow. Since the wording of Order 66 specifically refers to "Jedi Officers" this series actually explains why they would follow Vader on a child killing spree, children are not officers Order 66 had nothing to do with that slaughter, that was pure Sith. Though I doubt any of those good clone could sleep at night afterwords.
The Clone Wars character who may appear in the Lords of the Sith novel.
It has been announced that Lords of the Sith
by Paul S. Kemp will feature a character from this show. Here are some possible theories:
- Darth Maul will return to prove whether or not he may still be part of the Sith order, or he may try to overthrow Sidious and Vader altogether.
- Asaj Ventress will return to either serve the Sith or duel them.
- Ahsoka Tano will return and duel with Darth Vader, possibly discovering that he is her former master. Vader would feel a bit conflicted and be reminded that he failed training her to be a Jedi.
- All have been JOSSED. It's Cham Syndulla. This may also tie in with Star Wars Rebels seeing as both Cham and Hera have the same family name.