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  • Dr. Hank Pym suffered a mental breakdown–induced Face–Heel Turn, which included him attacking an enemy (who was about to surrender) from behind and trying to release a murderous robot upon his fellow Avengers so he could look like a hero when he defeated it. When his wife Janet tried to stop him, he struck her, which was actually meant to be an accident according to the writer. The majority of both writers and fans alike ignore the rest of the story, focusing solely on this event, and forgetting both the fact that he was severely unwell as well as the fact that it was supposed to be an accident, leading to him being remembered as a wife beater, even though circumstances show this was clearly not the case. Granted, he could be rather nasty to Janet, but calling him a domestic abuser is pushing it. It doesn't help that the fact that Jan took advantage of his mental problems to get married in the first place, a case of Questionable Consent, is almost never mentioned. The incident has been handled with varying levels of grace since then. Some authors (like Kurt Busiek and Dan Slott) write him trying to get past the old shame, while others (like Mark Millar in The Ultimates) write him up as a violent wife-beater. Chuck Austen even wrote him as a misogynist during his (much-maligned) Avengers run.
    • This particular incident is discussed and deconstructed more than once. In particular, in Secret Empire, when Tony Stark snidely brings it up, Hank channels the fandom when he goes on a tirade about how ridiculous and unfair it is that he always has this one (admittedly horrible) mistake hung over his head in spite of all of his good deeds, accomplishments and numerous apologies after, all the while Tony himself, as well as Steve Rogers and slews of other heroes have made far worse and more destructive mistakes yet are Easily Forgiven.
    • This incident is part of the reason why the Marvel Cinematic Universe uses the Scott Lang version of the character as well. However, it's mostly from the fact that they considered Hank and Iron Man too similar to each other. Hank does appear as Scott's Cool Old Guy mentor, and this version of him was much more well-received by the fanbase.
  • Jean Grey:
    • The most infamous case is her tendency to die and come back to life. Her reputation as the queen of Comic Book Death would lead you to expect that's she's died, what, dozens of times over the decades? In actuality she's died twice (well, depending on what you consider "death"). Her most famous death at the end of The Dark Phoenix Saga, and her second death at the conclusion of Grant Morrison's New X-Men run—which was undone in Marvel Legacy fourteen years later. The Marvel NOW! rebranding brought in a new Jean Grey via Time Travel, and made it clear that she is not the same person.
    • In a related example, Jean's entire pop culture identity has been consumed by the Dark Phoenix Saga, to the point that writers and editors have started just plain writing Phoenix stories for her every so often on account of there doesn't seem to be much else some people are interested in. This trope, in fact, used to be called "Jean Grey Escalation". It was changed before the purge of character-named tropes because tropers kept proving the point: it was used pretty much exclusively to refer to characters who got new powers or died more than once.
  • Rogue and Gambit: Antarctica. Neither character will ever live that down. Captured in Antarctica, Gambit was put on trial and it was revealed that he was hired by Mister Sinister to get the Marauders together and lead them into the Morlock Tunnels without knowing what they were there for. That was the extent of his involvement, but every character (and many writers) treat this as an unforgivable sin. As part of said "trial," Rogue was forced to kiss him, and absorbed his memories of the incident, as well as the nearly suicidal self-loathing and guilt he was feeling over it at the time. Later, during the escape, Rogue drops Gambit onto the arctic tundra and leaves him there to face Uncertain Doom. This was the point where their relationship drama leapt from Can't Have Sex, Ever to a mutual Love-Hate Relationship, and it has never fully recovered.
  • Magneto: This one is a combination of Characterization Marches On and Status Quo Is God. Chris Claremont reimagined Magneto as a Well-Intentioned Extremist who invoked a lot of Villain Has a Point moments to make him a richer, more tragic character. However, the rest of Marvel wants him to be a Card-Carrying Villain only a step above his original characterization. As such, most people will bring up the time he tore the Adamantium out of Wolverine's body, the time he infiltrated the mansion and started setting up concentration camps for Muggles (that version of him revealed as an impostor immediately once the storyline finished), or any number of other instances where he jumped off the slippery slope. Since Magneto is supposed to be the "villain" of the X-Men stories, many writers will do whatever it takes to make audiences root against him, even though that isn't what made him a compelling antagonist in the first place. He's actually been an honest-to-goodness team member for many years now, and even before that, he hadn't been their Big Bad in decades. To hear many fans talk about him, his portrayal in The '60s is how he is to this day.
  • Tony Stark, AKA Iron Man's alcoholism has generally been worked into his story with both respect and ridicule. Like Hank Pym, Tony has suffered lately for the sins of his Ultimate incarnation (Ultimate Tony Stark is a drunk, plain and simple).
    • In Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, this is the one thing that Steve Rogers, of all people, mocks and throws back in Tony's face in one particularly gut-wrenching scene. This game was based on Civil War, and pretty much everyone involved in that (though especially Tony and his allies on the pro-registration side) has had a hard time living it down.
    • It doesn't help that Tony is a self-destructive sort of fuck-up, as opposed to Hank Pym, who seems to start with lashing out. Tony, on the whole, manages to keep his severe personal issues internalized until he finally falls apart, so no one seems to notice (or care) if he's on the verge of suicidal breakdown (his alcoholism was canonically an attempt to drink himself to death) until it starts becoming inconvenient for other people.
    • This is also the one aspect of the character that is ever seen in parodies like Twisted Toyfare Theatre. Even the TTT version of Civil War started when a newly-sober Iron Man enforced prohibition on Megoville.
    • The casting of Robert Downey Jr. as Stark in the movie may be a nod to this as well, as Downey also battled alcoholism. The writers even wanted to explore this in Iron Man 2, but Downey vetoed it, due to fears that working with this theme could cause him to relapse after all the time he spent kicking the habit.
    • In his reviews, Atop the Fourth Wall's Linkara almost always portrays Iron Man as drunk, even in comics set before Demon in a Bottle; this stems partly from a scene in The Ultimates where even a robot duplicate of Tony is asking for liquor, and partly because when he portrayed Tony as sober in one review, the fans asked him to bring back "Iron Drunk" because it was hilarious. He has noted that he won't use it for comics set after "Demon in a Bottle" as seen in his Civil War review.
    • Also, Iron Man: Armored Adventures is said by the writers to be a High School AU because they wanted to make a show about the character but obviously he would need to be 'cleaned up.' Apparently, enough people behind its production considered his being a drunkard so integral to his character that In Name Only was the only route to go if they wanted to keep him under R-rated levels. Not to say it wasn't a quality series.
  • Marvel's Captain Marvel is best known for dying of cancer - something he didn't like finding out when he "came back" (read: arrived in the present day via Timey-Wimey Ball). Though we ultimately find out that he's not the real Captain Mar-Vell and there was no Timey-Wimey Ball.
  • Spider-Man:
    • Gwen Stacy is that girl who would have lived had Spidey not been incompetent, or was it the fall that killed her as Green Goblin called out in the same issue. Either way, Gwen Stacy is a saintly martyr, Peter's one true love who was Too Good for This Sinful Earth, and since The Night Gwen Stacy Died is the one story she appears in that is widely reprinted as a standalone, despite the fact that she barely appears in it and isn't even the most significant female character in the story (Mary Jane Watson is), it's all people are likely to know her for. Hell, some fanfic rewrites of the mythos tend to introduce her with the explicit intent of killing her off. It probably doesn't help that every new adaptation changes her personality and character completely, from becoming a tough punk-rock bad girl, to a nerd with a temper and occasional snark tendency, to Mary Jane with Debra Whitman's science smarts. The only tying factor between every character is romantic feelings towards Peter (some more than others), and being a Daddy's Girl of a Reasonable Authority Figure police Captain.note  Newer fans unfortunately remember her for Sins' Past which revealed that she cheated on Peter with Norman Osborn of all people (which was later retconned to have been an illusion by Mysterio) and that poor MJ has been unfairly burdened with the guilt of not measuring up to her.
    • John Jameson is most well known being an astronaut, even though he has spent most of his time as Captain America's personal pilot. He's also known for his superpowered alter-ego that sometimes emerges, Man-Wolf. The second part is subverted in The Spectacular Spider-Man - when John gets powers, he becomes Colonel Jupiter, following one of the comics from the pre-Man-Wolf period.
    • Eugene "Flash" Thompson was a Jerk Jock for the first few years of the comic. He later joined the army, and had matured considerably by the time he got back. Since then, he's been a Jerk with a Heart of Gold, at worst, and quite often a Boisterous Bruiser. Throughout the seventies and eighties, he was one of Peter Parker's best friends (and the best man at his wedding, even!). He even became the new (heroic) Venom and joined The Avengers, and yet he's still just remembered as a teenage Jerk Jock. Mostly because of Adaptation Distillation: most fans are first introduced to Spider-Man in a high school context, usually whatever film or animated adaptation is running at the time, and the same Silver Age stories are re-imagined and updated, including resident Jerk Jock Flashnote . With The Spectacular Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man (2012) picking up the slack.
    • Flash isn't the only one to get this treatment either. Despite the fact that he was only like that when first introduced in Amazing Fantasy #15 and quickly grew out of any sort of characterization that could be called such after getting his powers (in other words THE FIRST ISSUE) Peter Parker will never live down his initial characterization as a stereotypical nerdy genius high schooler. Due to most every adaption of the character which plays up Peter being nerdy and often resetting him back to his high school years, one could not realize Peter is ever anything but that. By the time Peter graduated high school and went to college, he stopped wearing glasses, started filling up and was actually a pretty good looking guy and when Ditko stepped down and John Romita took over Peter was the total stud called "hunk" and was basically the prize for Gwen and MJ to fight over. And even then, Peter never really has any difficulty finding girls and almost always really pretty ones, so the idea that he Cannot Talk to Women isn't true either and a number of Peter's confidants have noted that his life actually is enviable by the standards of real nerds and losers. While we're on the subject of Peter's love life, most seem to think MJ's the only girlfriend Spidey ever had. Almost every single freaking adaptation pretty much ignores any other girl he's ever dated.
    • Spider-Man himself will never live down the entire One More Day storyline where he sold his marriage to Mephisto to save his aunt (who was okay with dying, and, let's face it, doesn't have too many years left anyway) even with the One-Above-All's objection - who is, you know, the Marvel equivalent of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Judeo-Christian God, no matter what editorial says. Even with the Retcon that Mary Jane actually agreed to that deal, many fans still not convinced and perceived that as an Ass Pull due to the dialogue of what she said to Mephisto is completely different. The Secret Wars series The Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows seems to exist to appeal to people that really didn't like the change.
    • One More Day also had this effect on the person most responsible, Joe Quesada, who was Marvel's Editor-in-Chief at the time. While he'd always been known for some fairly controversial views about how the Marvel Universe should be run, he was in general considered a massive improvement over his predecessor Bob Harras, who had infamously exacerbated Marvel's legendary mismanagement in the '90s. Then he mandated this story be done, and suddenly his name was a byword for an overbearing higher-up with too much creative control and goodwill for him dried up (though it is not actually true that he was the only one pulling for the retcon). He built up a reputation as a man who was in the comics business to make everything how it was when he was a kid and/or vent personal issues.
    • Quesada and later writers also tried to do this to the Breakout Character of the Spider-Man series: Mary Jane Watson by trying to downplay or shuttle her out of spotlight and/or constantly having characters in page repeatedly talk about why they shouldn't be together. MJ is also characterized by the few defenders of the Post-OMD Status-quo as the flighty girl who strings Peter along and keeps rejecting his marriage proposals. In actual fact she only did it oncenote  which she did so in a very shallow manner albeit a later scene has her giving a sympathetic reason that she didn't tell Peter (her parents are divorced and she wasn't encouraged by the failed marriage of her friends Betty Brant and Ned Leeds) and then she and Peter broke up perfunctorily (ordered by editor Marv Wolfman to shake up a status-quo) and she was Put on a Bus making a few token appearances until returning to the supporting cast where she revealed that she knew Peter was Spider-Man all along, starting a character arc that led to her marriage. In this period, she was Peter's confidant and friend (albeit a friend with whom she still dated and shared kisses with when he needed it), the first person Peter confessed his guilt about letting Uncle Ben die to while Peter was in a dead-end relationship with the Black Cat (who loved Spider-Man but hated Peter).
    • A number of fans and writers — especially those who ship Peter with MJ or someone else — love bringing up the time Felicia rejected Spider-Man when he unmasked himself to her and had difficulty accepting that he was just an ordinary guy behind his extraordinary superhero alias. This ignores that Felicia did come to love Peter as a person, not just for his alias later on, even despite the troubles in their relationship. Ironically, Felicia was actually shown being curious about Spider-Man's secret identity early on and was even revealed her identity to him. It isn't helped that the "Brand New Day" era had Peter and Felicia having a Friends with Benefits relationship that involved them keeping their masks on during sex.
  • The Scarlet Witch depowering most of the mutant population. There are still readers who will not forgive her for not only the act itself, but also because of how Easily Forgiven some they think she was and especially due to her calling out Scott Summers for his actions in Avengers vs. X-Men, which were an attempt to fix what she did in the first place.
    • Also, although her power level in House of M was completely different from anything she had been able to do in 40 years of comics, and has since been explained away as the result of her absorbing a cosmic magical source that possessed her, the popularity of House of M means that many readers think of her as an omnipotent Reality Warper rather than the much less outlandish powers she generally has.
    • Basically, she's long been a Power Creep, Power Seep case and sometimes she has something called "Chaos Magic" that can be quite impressive, and sometimes Chaos Magic is only an extension of her inborn Winds of Destiny, Change! powers. It's easy to imagine the ultimate expression of a probability-altering power being "increase the probability of anything you can imagine to one hundred percent." However, this is not in fact her usual power level, even on a good day.
    • A number of adaptations also place both her and her brother Quicksilver as part of the Brotherhood of Mutants, despite the fact that they were only ever X-Men villains for a handful of issues. Casual fans who are more familiar with X-Men: Evolution and Wolverine and the X-Men (2009) are usually shocked to learn that the two have been members of the Avengers for most of their history. This has even led to a bizarre licensing issue where both Fox and Marvel Studios had film rights to the characters. Quicksilver appears in both X-Men: Days of Future Past and Avengers: Age of Ultron (as an Avenger), which should only serve to make things even more confusing for the general audience. However, he's a good guy in both versions, never joining the Brotherhood in the X-films.
    • Surprisingly, the one thing everybody does let her live down is the time she violated Wonder Man during her Face–Heel Turn in West Coast Avengers. Keep in mind this was over a decade before she destroyed the Avengers or depowered most of the mutant population, but no one ever brings it up when discussing Wanda's horrible actions.
  • The time that Doctor Doom was defeated by Squirrel Girl, when the ultimate scheming badass of the Marvel Universe got owned by someone who was essentially a joke—-GAK! SILENCE TROPER! IT WAS A DOOMBOT. A DOOMBOOOOOOOOOOOT!!
    • Speaking of Doctor Doom, one reason the infamous 9/11 Very Special Episode of Spider-Man is so polarizing among fans is that it depicts him crying over the event when he's frequently been shown to do at least as bad.
  • Jake Gallows, The Punisher of Marvel 2099, will never live down the way he turned heel (more than usual for a punisher, that is) and became Doom's judge, jury and executioner in the latter half of 2099's run. Most people don't have strong opinions on Gallows, but every time the 2099 universe has been rebooted or reimagined, he's never been anything other than a complete villain. Both the second and third iterations of Punisher 2099 used a different person for the identity, and in the case of the 2019 series, Gallows was a supporting, antagonistic character who was eventually killed off by that incarnation of the Punisher.
  • The "Marcus Immortus" storyline for Carol Danvers from The Avengers #200 note . The fan backlash to this ensured that neither Marvel Comics nor the character would ever live it down, and it remains one of the biggest elements of her backstory to this day. Avengers Annual #10 (itself best known today only as "the one where Rogue had her first appearance") allowed Carol to deliver a well-deserved What the Hell, Hero? speech to the assembled Avengers for their nonchalant attitudes towards what had happened to her,note  as well as undoing the whole thing by having Marcus Immortus die within a week of returning to Limbo, after which Carol spent the rest of the year tinkering with his machinery to send herself back to Earth. note 
  • The Juggernaut suffers from this occasionally in that some think he has made his sole purpose in life to kill his stepbrother Charles Xavier. Even an extended run as a hero didn't seem to change that. But, that was written by Chuck Austen, so you can see why some will ignore that.
  • Cyclops:
    • For many, abandoning his wife Madelyne Pryor and newborn son Nathan as soon as he heard that Jean Grey was alive in X-Factor #1 defined his personality forever. Marvel's later attempts at damage control - which included stating he was under Mister Sinister's influence, and retconning Madelyne into a manipulative witch - notwithstanding. That Grant Morrison later had him turn away from Jean for telepathic adultery with Emma Frost made matters worse (bear in mind, Jean herself contemplated having an affair herself at the time while he was currently in the middle of an emotional breakdown that Emma took advantage of).
  • For that matter, Emma Frost will (understandably) never live down the fact that she initiated an affair with Scott and got away with it. Or the fact that she then cheated on Scott with Namor while part of the Cabal and the Phoenix Five—made worse by the reveal that Scott not knowing only aroused both of them more. To a lesser extent, Emma will also never live down some of her more Stripperiffic costumes, which have been the butts of jokes among parts of the Internet.
    • Perhaps the most infamous act that Emma will never live down is when she killed Firestar's pet horse Butter Rum as part of a plan to mold Firestar into her personal weapon. The odd thing is that the memefication of this act has overshadowed the end goal of Emma's plans with Firestar and all the other vile actions Emma committed against her like killing Firestar's bodyguard, Randall Chase. Even the fact that Emma killed Butter Rum in such a way as to make Firestar think it was her own out of control powers that did it is often ignored.
  • Firelord, the former Herald of Galactus, casual conqueror and destroyer of worlds, able to fly across the universe faster than the speed of light and through stars, and has spelled serious trouble for the likes of some of the Marvel Universe's most powerful creatures such as Thor, Hercules, Ego the Living Planet, and the original Phoenix. However, the most famous story by far that he was ever involved in, was when he got his own ass handed to him by Spider-Man without him so much as being able to land a single hit on the wall-crawler. To reiterate, star-level cosmic entity gets utterly thrashed by a human in spandex. That is something that will never be forgotten.
  • Similarly, Umar will (again, understandably) never live down the fact she once raped the Hulk. It doesn't help that this instance was played for laughs when Hulk had been the victim of both an attempted and a successful rape before, and they were rightfully shown to be the horrible, traumatizing events they were.
  • Susan Storm-Richards of the Fantastic Four's long-running romantic interest in Namor the Sub-Mariner throughout her 40+ year marriage to Reed Richards gets thrown around a lot from fans. The reason is probably the fact that a lot of fans think she had an out-and-out affair with Namor (not true), but also think that the attraction between them is all in the past (also not true). The Fantastic Four are just fucked up that way.
  • George Tuska will always be remembered for giving the Iron Man armor a nose.
  • Mephisto, closest thing the Marvel Universe has to Satan, enemy of Ghost Rider, Silver Surfer and Doctor Strange among others, will probably never live down the fact he destroyed Spider-Man's marriage.
  • Sharon Carter, who had a long and storied history as a major figure in Captain America's mythos as well as becoming director of SHIELD for a time, is mostly remembered for being the woman who killed Captain America. She was brainwashed, and later led the charge to bring him back to life, neither fact is as well remembered.
  • Writer Kaare Andrews will probably never live down writing the revelation in Spider-Man: Reign that Peter poisoned Mary Jane with his radioactive sperm.
  • In a surprising display of self-awareness, writer Denis Hopeless seemed to realize that Arcade will never live down his role in Avengers Arena, so in his next book, he had the character admit that now either he can go back to being a complete joke, only constantly reminding people how he once did something really evil, like the above mentioned Doctor Light, or let killing kids become the only thing he does. Right after that Arcade is killed.
  • Karen Page will be forever remembered as the girl who sold out Matt Murdock for a drug fix that kick start the famous Born Again storyline. This got so bad that she instantly got some hate in the Netflix TV series for this storyline, even though elements of Born Again wouldn't be integrated into the show until season 3. Deborah Ann Woll even had to make a statement that she'd been promised the MCU's Karen would never do it, and in fact, the Broad Strokes of the story involving her drug use and criminal actions have been moved into her past.
  • Howard Chaykin regards his Star Wars comics as a combination of this and Old Shame.
    Chaykin: I'm on record everywhere regarding this – I'd like to think that had I known it was going to be that big a deal, I would have done a better job. That work will haunt me to my grave, diminishing the value of the actually good and true work I've produced in the past forty odd years. I figure my NYT obit will read "HOWARD CHAYKIN DIES; FUCKED UP STAR WARS COMICS – AND REALLY NOW, WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE HE DID, RIGHT?"
  • While still a new series, detractors of All-New Wolverine have already jumped on the book for being nothing but X-23 eating noodles and taking selfies. Even though both were one-off gags (and Laura herself didn't even eat the noodles or take the selfie).
  • Ultimate Marvel Captain America is a lot less of a paragon and a lot more of a typical soldier than the regular version. When he woke up in SHIELD custody, he didn't believe that Nick Fury (who is black in that universe) could be a Colonel, assumes the whole thing is a German setup, and tries to escape using force. This is commonly cited as an example of his racism. While Cap is a product of his time in many ways, he wasn't being racist. He had just been told he was out for almost 60 years, wasn't thinking straight, and couldn't get his brain around the idea that America wasn't racist. He specifically says the highest ranking black man he knows is only a Captain. The last straw was the length of time, not Fury being black.
    • In the first Ultimates series, Ultimate Steve is told to surrender by the alien villain. Steve flips his shit and screams "YOU THINK THIS 'A' ON MY HEAD STANDS FOR FRANCE!?". Everyone in and out of universe thought that was a goofy and out of character thing for Cap to say (he fought alongisde the French in WWII, so it makes no sense for him to even hold this view), and even he shows some shock and embarrassment from it in later stories.
  • The Unbelievable Gwenpool: Gwenpool is regularly depicted as a shallow, selfie-obsessed millennial, to the point where even official media (toys, video games, and comics outside of her own) makes this the focal point of her character. In truth, she's not selfie-obsessed at all, and she's slightly more tactful in her approach to other heroes. In fact, her only use of a selfie comes up early in her series, and it's to show a client that she successfully performed a hit.
  • America Chavez only said "holy menstruation" once. The many detractors, heck even fans, for her solo book have latched onto it, turning it into her catchphrase, if not just using the phrase as a shorthand for America herself. In fact, the solo book itself is a NLID moment for her, to the point where many were skeptical of her presence in the West Coast Avengers relaunchnote .
  • Poor Thanos. This guy killed half the universe, most of the Marvel heroes and even got an eleven year long string of movies where he was the arc villian. Beating out several other of Marvels popular villains no less. However, despite his popularity (or maybe because of it), nobody will let Thanos forget three things:
    • The Thanoscopter. In an otherwise rather obscure 1979 comic Thanos decided to zip around in a cute little helicopter with Thanos written on the tail. Deadpool and the Internet seem to love it. Oh yes, and the same issue revolves around Spider-Man and Patsy Walker of all people getting him arrested. Yes really, he's led away in handcuffs and everything. It's hilarious.
    • And then his love triangle with Deadpool and Death. Deadpool is by no means an unpopular character (far from it), but he's also a comedy hero with no fourth wall who usually gets left out of "serious" Marvel discussions. But you can't really mention Thanos's backstory without including the bit where Deadpool hooked up with the woman he's so obsessed over, and basically became Thanos's arch nemesis. And Deadpool basically won here. If/When Thanos kills Deadpool, the later starts another fling with Death. If Thanos makes Deadpool immortal… well he has to deal with an immortal Deadpool.
    • Being defeated by Squirrel Girl. This is something he (and various writers) have tried to undo, stating that S.G. defeated a "simulacrum" convincing enough to fool The Watcher, but that simply results in the next writer letting Thanos get defeated again and stating that it was most definitely, certainly, indisputably the real Thanos this time and totally impossible to be simulacrum. Rinse and repeat ad nauseam.
  • Among Runaways fans, Klara is remembered mainly for her horrified reaction to Karolina and Xavin kissing, with implications that her horror is born out of homophobia and/or racism. Never mind that Klara hails from a time when interracial relationships were just not done, nor that she had just witnessed Xavin changing shape, nor that she would later apologize for her behavior and that she would end up becoming close with Karolina for the duration of her time with the team. The fandom acts like she spent her entire tenure with the Runaways hating her teammates. It's become especially frustrating for her fans in light of Runaways (Rainbow Rowell), where Nico feels the need to bring it up again to shame Klara for quitting the team in order to be adopted by a gay couple.
  • Kitty Pryde breaking N-Word Privileges by dropping the hard-R in an equivalence to "mutie" is infamous to this day, and is regularly brought up among the more awkward and uncomfortable attempts to use the X-Men as an allegory for racism. It doesn't help that she did it on three separate occasions.
  • Sally Floyd was actually a fairly interesting and competent character when she first debuted in Generation M, helping the X-Men catch a serial killer in the wake of M-Day. Then Civil War (2006) saw her interview Captain America and employ several Logical Fallacies while doing so, made worse by the fact the reader was meant to agree with her. Nowadays, she's only remembered by fans as the reporter who claimed MySpace is more important than personal freedoms.

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