Okay this isn't a plot point but it's been bugging for a while. Why is it called Attack on Titan? Wouldn't the title Attack Of The Titans make more sense grammatically speaking?
Most likely they are trying to keep the double meaning of the Japanese title, which could be translated to either "Advancing Titans" or "Advance Toward the Titans". If "Attack on Titan" is said with a pause or comma it becomes "Attack on, Titan" which implies the titan is the attacking party, like "Advancing Titans", but if said as it is spelled it implies the titan is the one being attacked, like "Advance Toward the Titans".
Titan Attack or Attacking Titans would both work in that case.
Pixis mentions that if the Trost mission succeeds, it'll be the first human victory and the first time humans successfully advance on the Titans. It makes sense that the wording would be the way it is if humanity is trying to fight back for once.
Why was the Female Titan crying after Levi gave it a beatdown? Did it just give up?
She kinda HAD to give up at that point because it was totally cut up and very tired besides. There was not really much of a chance to still catch Eren especially since it is implied (more strongly in the manga) that she was close to her limit to uphold in her titan transformation as well (which quite frankly was about time, considering all the punishment she took). I am not sure about the tears because they might just be caused by her eyes getting gauged out. But she might actually feel despair about failing at her mission, especially considering how desperate all the titan shifters are to catch Eren later.
What I'd like to ask is why he 'gave up' on trying to kill the female Titan. It was completely defenseless, and could not compete with Levi's speed, much less Mikasa's on support. In the anime, Levi's attacks left the Female Titan completely incapable of hardening his skin-the clicher which Levi brought up that claimed she couldn't be killed. To save Eren? Killing that creature was entirely within his capabilities to do well before it left the forest. He made a terrible call.
actually considering the fact that 1. Levi's leg was broken and so its likely that he wouldn't have been as effective, and 2. the female titan called backup, and 3. The troops were decimated, I would have to say that Levi made a good call.
Why are swords the primary weapons? The manga states that it's because the swords, when swung fast enough, are the only things capable of piercing the nape. That doesn't make any sense. You think that they would use some kind of rifled, pneumatic hand-cannon or something. (The ammo would certainly weigh less that lugging 12 swords into battle. They could easily pierce the nape, shatter spinal cord, or kill an operator from a safe distance.
It's indicated that the metal used is far lighter than ordinary steel or iron.
Using that would require a greater degree of precision than using swords and they probably won't have the best aim while swinging mid-air. Plus, with the already limited amount of living humans and high levels of casualty, one wouldn't want to bear the risk of having friendly fires.
There are a lot of potential reasons, most of them boiling down to "it's just more pragmatic": for one thing, it's easier, faster, and cheaper to produce what amounts to giant-sized box-cutter blades than it would be to provide guns and ammunition for the entire army (they're living inside a walled city; material resources are very limited), especially when those materials could be put to more productive use in cannons, and training someone to use a gun is automatically signing up to lose ammo in target practice. Further, they don't know what about the nape of the neck makes it a vital weak point in a Titan's body, and it's usually a large area. That's why the army teaches trainees to use two cuts, boosted by the 3D maneuver gear: to tear out the whole back of the neck in one shot, because a second opportunity isn't likely to arise.
It's a lot more than just "piercing the nape"; a successful cut takes out a chunk roughly the size of a person. It's even outright stated in the backstory that humanity had superior firepower in the past, but it didn't do any good since all the Titans did was regenerate. The current methods are simply one solution that has been developed over time, and more may arise over the course of the story.
Mind you, that explanation makes no sense in light of the Battle of Trost, where most of the Titans are explicitly said to have been cleaned up by cannon fire, but the story seems to be leading to there having been some other reason behind Humanity's fall than just their weaponry being inadequate.
That time it worked possibly because 1) there were many, many cannons firing at a relatively small space 2) they were explicitly using "High Explosive" shells 3) They had a clear line of sight on the back of their necks for once. I think the main reason that cannons weren't being used to target their weak spots is because they never line up a shot. Titans always go for humans that would be manning the guns and I imagine it would be next-to-impossible to move a cannon behind a Titan, fire it, then not have any of the others notice. They also didn't get a chance to aim wall-mounted cannons straight down at them before because the the past three walls were quickly breached (not to mention the Colossal Titan taking out the cannons right at the start of Trost).
To the tropers above; that makes no sense. Are you seriously suggesting that maneuvering your entire body parallel with the spinal cord and boosting with a steam powered 'jet pack' is any easier than flanking the target and firing at a few dozen/hundred meters away? It would be challenging, but Marine Corps recruits are required to hit man sized targets at 500 meters away, I'm sure with training they could be taught how to use "shoot n' scoot" tactics. Friendly fire is laughable. Unless you're blind, stupid, or Dick Cheney, there is no way you could confuse your ally with a giant naked man. Don't tell me it's because they would be zipping around, because the use of firearms would render extremely close combat obsolete, in favor of baiting and ambush. Resource consumption clearly isn't an issue. If the military has the enough metal and man power to average 30 casualties per Titan kill (that includes lost 3D Gear, holsters, and blades), then I'm pretty sure they have enough to give their soldiers some guns and ammo. Finally, having a hail of high caliber bullets come from behind would effictively replace the double sword slash. Heck, if they made a repeating rifle (child's play for a nation that invented steam powered combat gear), each man would have several chances to strike the person inside the Titan.
Basically, yes. No gun can carry a large enough calibre to consistently hit the (once again) rather large target and yet still remain mobile enough to use in a variety of scenarios. Tanks are perhaps the one possibility, but while there seem to be remnants of technology, tanks are perhaps too much to ask for. If you were to use any calibre other than one large enough to get a 1 hit death, you also run the risk of the Titan collapsing and blocking the weak point, as well as simply wasting time while it regenerates the small arms fire. Guns in this setting have severe limitations, which is why we rarely see them. It's also worth noting that while Titans in a city (Zhigahnshina, Trost) are seemingly quite slow, they are capable of bursts of speed far faster than foot travel. Flanking and surrounding simply isn't an option without the increased mobility of the 3DMG or intentionally sacrificial tactics like those used at Trost.
I never suggested that the 3DG be done away with, only that rifled firearms replace swords as primary weapons. Frankly, I'm not sure if you realize just how powerful a rifle is. Rounds from standard issue assault weapons can go through concrete and plated metal. Hell, even old fashioned 19th/20th century rifles can pierce light armor. And if a Titan were to collapse, I doubt a 3 foot blade would fair any better than a gun.", unless you plan on carving through a still living Titan like a holiday bird.
I don't see how small calibre firearms would be able to tear out a rather large chunk of flesh fron a hard to reach spot, unless you have a good ROF and coordinated Improbable Aiming Skills. Especially if we take into account a moving target that might weave around a bit all the time. Also penetration power isn't really the point as killing titans is not about piercing vital organs. It MIGHT work if they develop some kind of fragmenting Hollow-Point projectiles that actually tear open the flesh after impact but even that might do most of the damage deep inside the titans body where it won't haave any real effect and would still require some really good repeated shots within a few seconds. I think you can kinda compare that to either Highlander or the Mythbusters episode in which they tried to fell a tree with guns...which failed till they brought out More Dakka in form of a heavy stationary machinegun (and that was motionless target!). Slashing, explosives or extreme blunt trauma (Titan Eren) are really the only effective way to get rid of the weakpoint.
Fragmentation rounds or heavy caliber bullets (both of which can be carried by a modern sniper) could do the job easily. It's not like you have to blast the entire back of its neck off, you just have to terminate the man sized target within. And like I said, if a soldier can be taught how to align his/her body in just the right way to boost and tear out the nape, they can sure as hell be taught how to fire at a moving target with some semblance of accuracy.
Actually, as far as we know, you DO have to carve/blow out the large chunk of flesh with the person within, otherwise it would just regenerate. Just hitting it's heart/head would not kill it when it is in Titan-form. But honestly at the moment it is hard to say how exactly the Healing Factor works and when exactly it stops for the human "pilot". I would assume that there is some sort of two-sided healing, meaning that titan and pilot keep each other healed when one is injured. All we know is that Titans have to have the back of their neck cleaved out completely and that would be almost impossible with firearms that a person can carry.
Seriously, I don't know why this is in the Headscratcher page it should have been obvious. The guns in this anime aren't some modern-day rifle that can be loaded with explosive and anti-tank rounds, the guns are Flintlocks for crying out loud. Flintlocks are horrible inaccurate have very short-range compared to modern-day guns and can only be fired one shot before needing not only to reload but replace the powder charge as well. And considering how large the titans tend to be, I doubt the bullet will even pierce the skin or produce enough damage. The only firearm that can possible do damage is the cannon, which is very inaccurate.
I guess the real Headscratcher would be how a society could develop something as advanced as 3D maneuver gear but otherwise be stuck at an 18th Century level of technology.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Once they got an idea that might work they probably poured all their resources onto it to make it feasible (threat of getting eaten alive would be a good catalyst to speed things up). Once they had something that worked, maybe they decided to focus their crude infrastructure on that only? Guns got more and more advanced in real life because humans were fighting other humans wielding guns, why go through the trouble of developing semi-automatic rifles when no one's shooting back at you but rather trying to grab and eat you?
Why aren't the cities underground? This was partially explained in the Fridge logic section, but their explanations don't really hold up. Since the titans don't attack crops or livestock, could they easily just keep the animals and plants on the surface, peep out from a hole in the hole in the ground, take what they need, and go back under? And don't tell me it's because of the little quakes their footsteps would make. It's established that the titans are very light, and mining trusses could easily stabilize the tunnels.
It's very unhealthy for people to live underground for long periods of time, humans need to synthesize vitamin D using sunlight. Plus any underground settlements would need extensive ventilation, providing weak spots where titans could enter. In addition, there are intrigues in the plot that suggest various entities with considerable power created the status quo.
If you were a cookie, would you want to live in a cookie jar, knowing that your life would just be a long wait in the dark until a giant hand came down from above to carry you to a gruesome, horrifying death?
And with the Headscratcher below, we have another answer: It's easier to make use of that convenient walled city you found than to build an elaborate underground city.
Just try to keep that place lit. And every time you go up to take care of the crops there are probably titans right there.
Chapter 51 has confirmed that there ARE underground cities. They just don't live in them solely. Which makes sense; the wall were already there when they showed up, it's healthier to live above ground, and for 100 years they were safe. The above ground cities are just the better option. Not to mention, there's probably not enough room for every one below ground.
Is it ever explained how humanity managed to build three fairly huge walls in the first place? The first one perhaps could be justified as it's not too big, but the other two walls I'd imagine would take quite a bit of manpower and materials to build considering how big of an area they're supposed to cover. Then again, we could always just chant the MST3K Mantra...
There are Colossal Titans within the walls serving as its primary supports, kept dormant by being sealed up away from the sunlight. How the Hell they got there is still anyone's guess, though.
The runes on the manga's back cover are actually upside down Japanese. They mention, among other things, that the walls were already there when the humans fled across the sea from the Titans. This explains the wall cult that calls them "Gods Gift to Humanity". No one knows where the walls came from, and with recent revelations it's likely they are a trap
Does Eren have some sort of personality disorder? He's awesome, but even before the death of his mother, he's shown some major warning signs.
Probably, but considering the state humanity's in, it's hard to think of it as a negative trait; Eren seems to have a pathological loathing for anyone and anything that preys upon humans, and immediately stops thinking of a person as human once they've done something to abuse or betray someone else. He's the Hunter, after all. Eren's rescue of Mikasa may be the reason Grisha gave him the ability to change into a Titan, because it means that even at his most psychotic, he won't lose his nerve to fight, and he won't forget whose side he's on.
Given the time frame, There Are No Therapists, and historically (even as recently as Vietnam) wartime mental healthcare has ... not been optimally helpful, to put it one way. After all, everyone is screwed up and there's only so much time you can spend with each soldier.
Other than Rule of Cool, why aren't there any modern firearms/weapons platforms in this series if it were really 2,000 years from the present? Did the Titans manage to wipe out all the military installations in Western Europe, along with the factories of several weapons manufacturers? For that matter, how could titans nearly wipe out humanity in a world where we have remote control drones that can blow precisely human-sized holes from hundreds of yards away?
I believe that the "to you 2000 years in the future thing" is supposed to mean that they're 2000 years in the past.
Even if it were 2,000 years in the future, the Genius Bonus runes tell us that humanity mostly wiped itself out. There's a pretty good chance that even if modern weapons do exist, the Walled City doesn't have the means to produce them, and going into the outside world to find some is practically suicide. It doesn't matter how powerful modern weapons are anyway; the Titans regenerate and when they die, they dissolve. You can blow a human-sized hole in a Titan and kill it, but by the time anyone got there to examine the body, it would be gone. If humanity did fight the Titans that way, it could have been decades before anyone finally figured it out.
But even according to the Genius Bonus runes, humanity only turned on each other after they started fleeing from Titans. So the modern militaries of the world never thought to train their aircraft and missiles against this new threat, and instead decided to start World War 4? Also, we don't really need to examine a Titan body; we have cameras and digital recording. A registered kill can be reviewed later for analysis. You can't even argue lost technology, as the founders of the last city were allegedly the rich and powerful. There should've been at least one defense contractor among them, who still possessed knowledge of advanced weapon systems.
Dude. 2000 years in the past. None of this technology exists in the Attack on Titan world. Saying there should have been at least one defense contractor available to fight the Titans is like saying Megatron should have been there to defend Constantinople. More to the point, it doesn't say that humanity turned on each other after they fled from the Titans, it says that by the time the Titans showed up, humanity had already almost wiped itself out, and those able to flee to the Walls were only a small fraction of the extremely wealthy. Even currently in the story, knowledge of the history of the world and the outside world as a whole is considered taboo to the point of conspiracy. Of course you can't "argue lost technology", they never had it to begin with! The most advanced weapons tech they have are cannons, and you're wondering why they don't have Ti Vo?
On the Gregorian calendar, the date would probably be something like 4100. It is intended to be the future, and it's implied that Titans appeared after humanity had already weakened themselves in a large war, or that there was another complicating factor. Who's to say what happened between now and the 2000 years that passed by before Titans appeared??
It's an alternate history. It does not take place in the future.
What do you mean by "alternate history"? It can't take place 2000 years in the past (from 2013 C.E. in which would put it around 13 C.E.) because Hange references to real life cannibalistic serial killers when naming her titan test subjects: the legend of Sawney Bean comes from is based on 15th- or 16th-century Scotland (Sawney and Bean's namesake),Hamilton Howard "Albert" Fish was an 20th century American serial killer (A previous titan Albert was named after his preferred name) and Andrei Romanovich Chikatilo was a 20th century soviet serial killer who died in 1994(Another previous titan was named Chikatilo). The story taking place in an After the End version of our world, or one with an extremely similar history, makes the most sense so far. Unless you think Hange can see into the future with amazing detail, since in the anime she made it quite clear she isn't picking these names at random by describing the story of Sawney Bean to her squad while naming the titans, when the legend doesn't exist until 15 or 16 thousand years after the time period you claim the series is set in.
An alternate history allows an author to pick and choose whether or not events from real history occurred or not. There are no rules governing what an author can make up, ignore, or include. We know very little about this world, except that it has analogs to some famous mass murderers and there is a part of the world analogous with Asia.
During a siege, usually it is a battle of attrition between the besieger and besieged. So where do the humans get their resources, like metal, from? Unless they have a high stockpile of it but it is dwindling at an accelerated rate considering the amount of deaths in the series...
Well, the original.. uh, settlers, in the Walled City were supposedly the amazingly wealthy, so maybe they brought it with them? During some of the training chapters, they mention manufacturing as a chump's alternative to enlisting so there's got to be at least one factory/refinery. Maybe there are iron mines somewhere within human territory. Of course, there's always the possibility that they don't use metal at all. All the stuff that looks like metal? Hardened Titan skin.
would rules of attrition apply when the besieged "castle" is the size of most of Western Europe?
No and yes. The "siege" has forced the level of Schizo Tech we see; clearly there is technology higher than what most people have access too, it's just very expensive. What little is used in the way of rare resources are the military's use of pressurized gas and their weaponry. We've seen that the blades they use are basically glorified razor blades and are definitely made as cheaply as possible, especially when considering there is resistance to change these designs based on input from the troops. The only other things show are cannons, of which there are few, and of course the 3D Maneuver Gear, which seems to be at least partially aluminum based on it's light weight and the way it sounds in the anime. Basically, what technology we do see is clearly being self limited based on resource scarcity, and later on the series may explore ramifications of these resources running out.
Bonus information states that they have massive deposits of natural resources within the Walls, such as natural gas and various minerals. In terms of resources, their largest concern is food since much of the land isn't focused on agriculture.
I know that the Colossal and Armoured Titans use the 3DMG to escape and blend in with the humans but what about the incident 5 years ago, when Bert and Reiner weren't in the military yet? How did they run away from the titans and safely enter the inner walls?
They were kids at the time. All they had to do was change back and blend in with the refugees, and nobody would have had any reason to question them.
in episode 2 of the anime, li'l Annie can be seen lining up for rations. Later on, we see Bertolt and Reiner among the refugees as the plan to retake Wall Maria is announced.
There are many possibilities for the first time. It is mentioned that they believe Annie did participate in the attack on Wall Maria, luring in the hordes of Titans. If she was transformed, more than likely she would have been able to sneak the other two into the city and past other Titans. Another possibility is that they were not acting alone, and had help to get through the city without being harmed.
Why is Ymir called the Dancing Titan?
She jumps and swings around as if she were dancing. A Dance Battler.
Being of a smaller size means she can't just run around overpowering everything like the others, forcing her into the role of a Fragile Speedster.
The soldiers are constantly in the air and there is a possibility of them running out of gas or messing up and crashing, yet why do none of them wear helmets?
Apart from the artistic choice (helmets cover hair and sometimes faces; having a bunch of uniformed soldiers in helmets makes it harder to tell characters apart), it's because the helmet would do more harm than good. The technology level in the series means a helmet is just a metal hat, possibly with a leather pad inside it, which won't do anything to protect your head from any kind of high-speed impact. It would also obstruct peripheral vision and hearing, both of which are utterly crucial to being able to fight Titans effectively.
Not true. Motorcycle helmets were invented in the 1930s after the death of T.E. Lawrence (yes, as in Lawrence of Arabia) to reduce injuries from high speed impacts. The earliest of them were no more than "metal hats" and more sophisticated designs should be within the reach of a culture than can produce 3D Maneuver Gear.
Except no. The technology level and culture of the Walled Territory never extends past early-Victorian levels, and that's in the highly privileged Sina districts. The 3DMG is clearly displayed to be the only peice of regularly used Schizo Tech that the humans possess that exceeds 19th century constraints, and the design for those were revealed in the prequel material to be the work of a single man. Plus there's the little factor of the upper echelons for some reason refusing to update the military's equipment for what is implied to be a couple of decades, meaning no one can make helmets standard even if the could make a practical design.
I know this is one of those mysteries that the story will probably cover eventually, but: Chapter 46 shows that Titan Shifters need to worry about being attacked by regular Titans just like anybody else, it's not just Eren. So why the Hell haven't they done something about it?
What? If you're asking why the Titans haven't attacked, its because the Shifters are currently in trees. If you're asking why the Shifters haven't attacked the titans, it's because all of them are in a critical condition after the last battle.
Good question. It does seem like they have almost as much to fear from the Titans as normal humans do, yet have been utilizing them as a weapon against mankind. It raises all sorts of questions concerning just how safe their homeland is from Titans, as well as the reason for attacking the Walls in the first place.
Why has it not occurred to anyone to use the cannons to knock the titans over or injure them and then have a team slice the nape of their necks while the titans are reeling from the impact (especially if their heads are blown off)? This seems like it would solve a lot of problems with titans getting back up and regenerating and would probably help dispel the fear of being eaten while doing so.
That would be extremely riskful to do, considering the very precise timing a maneuver like that would require. Add to the fact that Titans can sometimes regrow missing heads/limbs within seconds, you would have to be an ace of a soldier in order to pull that. Also you would need a lot, and I mean a lot of cannon fire in order to incapacitate a large concentration of them all at once. Imagine moving in for the kill then suddenly one sneaks up behind you.
It still seems like a better tactic than "Throw men at it and hope we kill it by the 30th casualty".
There are two battlefields for a titan vs human smackdown: Scouting Legion expedition, where cannons are impractical to bring, or a town that the Colossal Titan breached, when the cannons would be hitting people's homes and fleeing evacuee crowds. There's a reason cannons are only used late into battle's or a rerlatively close range.
So if the walls were already there when the first settlers came, how did the first settlers of the city scale the walls to build a society in them?
They didn't scale them. The gates were probably open when they got there, and then they just closed it behind them.
As we've seen in Levi's first battle and Sasha's little storyline, low velocity projectile weapons like arrows are actually pretty effective in blinding or weakening the titans, because the projectiles get stuck in the body and prevent a complete regeneration (especially of the eyes). Why has no one ever considered training some squads of archers as mobile support or outfitting some of the soldiers with small crossbows to effectively blind the slow moving titans? Or use large, stationary harpoons to obstruct their movement without triggering their regeneration like the cannons do?
Squads that aren't outfitted with swords aren't able to kill Titans. That's also a squad with even more limited ammo than the guys with breakable swords. Further, while slow Titans like the Colossal might be easy to hit, most of them are actually outrageously fast, which makes that form of support risky at best... not even considering friendly fire. Last but not least, the Titan you aim your bow at is the only one you're able to focus on. Considering that during an attack, like Trost, Titans show up everywhere, it would be too easy for a squad to get blindsided and chomped on. As for the harpoons... ...That's actually pretty good. They'd have to be inside the town though to be any use, given how the Colossal Titan could easily swat wall-bound defenses before they were useful.
From what we've seen even squads with swords often aren't able to kill Titans and just act as cannon fodder to buy time (for the Garrison troops at least, veteran Scouts are a different matter). I just thought that using some archer-heavy squads in combination with the regular ones might help all those less skilled soldiers to actually get some kills on the weakened titans instead of being slaughtered. They could just carry a lightweigth bow in addition to the regular 3D gear and switch a few spare blades for a decent supply of arrows (supply stations should be nearby anyway), thus keeping the mobility intact. Friendly fire should be less of a problem than colliding soldiers with 3D gears and can be avoided by coordinating the attacks properly. Of course it would require a different strategy and modified equipment but it is doable and can't be worse than those blind suicide rushes we've seen so far. Also archers without 3D gear could be used as stationary defense at gates, walls or towers. Those could even be composed of some half-trained militia who would be useless civilians otherwise.
Sasha knows how to use a bow because she used to be a hunter. Archers take a lot of training to be any good; add that to the 3 years of training for regular soldiers since they would be expected to be proficient with most of the same techniques (3DMG, physical fitness, swords if necessary), then you could have upwards of 5-7 years of training for an archery division. They simply don't represent that much of a return on investment, especially since regular soldiers are trained with rifles, if rarely used.
I'm not sure where you got that 2+ years of archery training from (serviceable archery can be taught within weeks, and professional level can be taught within within months), or why you assume that it couldn't be integrated into the daily curriculum to save time instead of being tacked on the end of training. Either way, I'd wager that 5-7 years for a 3DMG support unit with bow/crossbow sidearms and a few bolt quivers would be preferable to their horrific kill/causualty rate.
Archery fell out specifically in real life because it takes a minimum of 2 years to have an archer who's got enough skill and strength to hit targets at a distance; guns can be taught to be as effective with much less training, in a matter of weeks. There's also the fact that archers would be completely ineffective while moving with 3DMG, which is the exact opposite of what needs to be done in fights versus Titans. Bows simply aren't as effective as guns in the setting and regular soldiers are already taught how to use guns. The one positive is that they may prevent regeneration, but that seems to be situational at best.
2 years of archery training is a huge exaggeration if we are just talking about learning the skill. Sure if you need to drill untrained peasants into an organized army of archers it would fit, but that would also include extensive formation drills, endurance training and the ability to rain coordinated hails of arrows over long distances as it was a popular tactic during the medieval warfare. Training recruits that are already schooled in the common tactics and abilities of their style of warfare to use bows against large targets at short to medium distances with direct fire would at the most add a few additional months to the training, especially if they can work it into the preexisting curriculum. That's a small payoff for a type of mobile ranged weaponry that can actually be useful in contrast to the completely ineffectual guns. Or alternatively you train them with crossbows which can be done within a few weeks.
Bows probably are going to become pretty important at some point, given the fact that the opening theme (the first one, anyway) never shuts up about them, even though they've only been used once. So my guess is they're going to be some of the specialized weapons developed as time goes on and humanity starts gearing its efforts toward defeating Titans, rather than acting as bait.
Dude, the song is metaphorical, the arrow thing is a symbol, just like everything else. You just said that we saw a bow used once: it was used by the only introduced character with past experience using one, and it just barely made an effective battle tactic against a single small Titan. Annoying Arrows are in full effect as far as the human side is concerned, stop trying to say otherwise.
I'm not saying otherwise. The above was my only comment in this headscratcher. It doesn't surprise me that bows haven't been in widespread use, since the goal was never to kill Titans as effectively as possible, just to distract them long enough for the civilians to escape. Yeah I know it's metaphorical, but it's still strange for a series that has only had one appearance of a bow to be talking about "taking up your bow and beginning the resistance", rather than, say, "unsheath your sword and begin the resistance". I'm just saying that they could be pretty useful in conjunction with other methods, and that as the humans target their methods more toward actually fighting, they may develop their use as a tactic.
Sasha's arrows worked because she was using them at a very close range against a small Titan. Arrows have fallen out of use in the Walled City for the same reason they fell out of use in real life; the advent of the firearm made them obsolete, and firearms became obsolete with the advent of the 3DMG. We do see all of them being used effectively in the story, but arrows and guns require very specific circumstances (and, in the case of archery, trained specialists) to do so, and they still aren't anywhere near as effective as the 3DMG; if Sasha had hers when she confronted the Titan with it, she wouldn't have bothered with the bow at all.
Its one thing to become a proficient archer, its another altogether to be expected to consistently be able to shoot the eye of a target from a 50-100 metre distance. Hell, that's practically impossible.
So about those extra details about Berrik's death revealed in chapter 47. The timing and location of his death suggest that all three boys possessed Titan powers when they encountered Ymir. So why didn't they use them to defend themselves?
Same reason Eren didn't turn into a Titan immediately at Trost. They may have not known how to control them until an offscreen event occurred, particularly if they were living as humans.
Since it happened close to the same time they attacked Wall Maria, that's pretty much impossible. That attack was coordinated, and both showed full control of their Titan forms. Though you could be right about them still being new enough to it that — like Eren — they hadn't built up enough stamina to function post-Transformation. It definitely raises a lot of questions about how skilled they were at the time, and what role Berrik was supposed to play in the whole thing.
How does anyone still have the desire to eat meat after seeing the Titans eat people?
Well for one they eat to survive unlike the titans, and they actually kill and cook the meat before eating it so it doesn't scream and beg for life.
Also, meat is a rare delicacy. When Eren and co freak out upon finding out that Sasha stole meat from the upper brass, it wasn't just because she stole food from their superiors. It was because she stole their world's equivalent of edible gold.
The same way people ate meat throughout the vast bulk of history during which we were both predator and prey — because meat tastes great and is an important part of a balanced diet. As Mikasa often notes, the world is cruel. It's one of the series' themes that you're either a hunter or dinner.
The story takes place in the future; tanks are outright shown in flashbacks. As for why humanity's superior firepower didn't suceed, that is kind of one of the mysteries of the series, though it's hinted humanity had nearly expended itself in a massive war prior to Titans appearing. The current weaponry is simply what's most cost effective and can be produced with the limited industry left. And lastly, they didn't build the walls.
In what chapter are tanks shown? I never recall seeing anything other than cannons being used.
There's a chance that this story doesn't take place after the end, though. Many fans are theorizing that To You in 2000 Years means that the story takes place in an alternate history, 2000 years in the past. More evidence to support this: When Hanji recalls records of the era in which humans fought each other, she recalls a medieval knight and compares it to the Armored Titan. If this were after the end of our history, the era of knights would have been long since gone and forgotten.
As opposed to if it were 2000 years in the past, in which case the story would be taking place over a millennium before "the era of knights" even occurred.
So how do the Titans actually locate people? I ask because it has bugged me that stealth hasn't been brought up as a reasonable means of facing the Titans. If it's just sight-based, then people could travel at night, and move slowly. If it's by sound, they could move in smaller groups, and again, move slowly/with minimal gear. If it's by smell, then using pungeant chemicals to hide their scent could be used. I understand that these methods wouldn't guarantee success, but it's odd that they're never even mentioned or tried. The series just seems to zigzag in regards to how easy/difficult it is for the Titans to find people. Jean hid in a building and was safe from a Titan; yet dozens of Titans swarmed the resupply building and the people hiding within. Not to mention how the Titans even knew that people were on the other side of the walls. I can only assume that Titans locate people supernaturally, like a permanent detect human spell.
Well most of the time when Titans are devouring and searching for human is in the city which is over crowded and is filled to the brim with humans. So its realitively easy to find humans. Also most "normal" titans appear to be using sight. Aberrant Titans however seem to be using supernatural means of detecting humans. Also the problem with traveling at night is that humans can't see at night either and would require using a lamp or some artificial light source, which would be the equivalent of putting a bullseye on yourself. As for how they get into buidlings most of the titans that infiltrate buildings are about 3-4 meter titans which are small enough to get into the doorways if they crouch(and since they are anatomically similiar to humans they can do that), or they could have saw humans fleeing into/toward any building and try to get them.
Actually, travelling at night makes sense since titans appear to be powered by sunlight and "power down" after a few hours in the dark. But, I suppose since it varies from titan to titan and they have a sample size of about 4 it makes sense that they would hesitate to do so since they don't have enough data to confirm the maximum amount of time it takes for them to "power down".
Where do their gas reserves come from? If they have a natural gas mine somewhere, they must be pretty reliant on it, but it's never been mentioned as a tactical concern when they are losing ground to the titans. Unless it is located in the inner wall (and thus all the highest class people are operating it, not something associated with mines usually), they seem to completely disregard the possibility of losing their gas reserves, and therefor their ability to fight back, since they're helpless without 3d gear. So far it's the only resource they have that has no explanation for how they got it. Besides the walls, but that I trust to be an explained mystery.
It's explained in one of those in-between pages that the lands inside the walls are rich in both minerals and gas. Also apparantly the innermost part has the largest deposits of it. Even those rich, more densely populated areas should have some sort of working-class consisting of miners, farmers and such...someone has to do the physical work after all. Also, I assume that those giant furnaces producing the hardened steel (also mentioned in one of the additional infos) are also in the inner part, since we have never directly seen them.
It's not emphasised much but the lands inside the walls are really, really big. Even if they're not all that resource-rich or were mostly depleted by the old world, with a population of only ~1 million people and relatively low demand thanks to the generally low tech level... they could probably mine for centuries without running out.
the bonus details reveals that the walled city is roughly the same size as Alaska or Texas, which is comparable to some small countries. And considering that Middle Eastern countries have been selling their own oil supplies to billions of people in other countries for over half a century and still have enough to keep chugging out. A city with less than 1 million people (250,000 people were sent to their death do to high food demands, so there are only 750,000 left), with relatively low demands, they really could keep it up for over a thousand years.
250,000 was stated to be 20% of the population, so they have a million now.
Actually they said, that they LOST 250,000 people which was 20% of the population. So they have around 750,000 people, minus all the death as a result of the Battle of Trost.
20% of 1 million people is 200,000, not 250,000. It is, however, 20% of 1.25 million people. May want to get your math straight before you tell other people they're wrong.
Minor one: allegedly, the society within the walls was set up a hundred years prior to the Colossal Titan's attack. A hundred years is not a very long time. Obvious-as-the-nose-on-Annie's-face conspiracy aside, how come everybody acts like it was an era ago, in an age lost to the mists of time? Granted, life expectancies might be shorter, but they actually should probably be right around modern-day numbers, given the fact that medicine seems really pretty sophisticated (syringes and all. Oh, yeah, and, y'know, the ability toturn people into enormous rage monster death machines that come out of thin air). So there should be people still alive whose parents or grandparents were on the original ships and who could explain, say, what this other continent/world/planet/thing was, under what circumstances the Titans showed up, how they knew these walls existed, etc., etc. I guess most of these people would have been silenced by the government, but there's still this feeling that nobody remembers what it was like before the Titans, or even before the walls. And the implication was that the time between the Titans' appearance and the flight to the walls was quite brief. You know what I mean? It's like the world before the Titans is a legend now. Well...maybe a century is longer than I thought. Or maybe this'll be explained. I dunno. (I'm not accusing this manga of not making sense, by the way; I'm assuming there's a rational explanation related to the conspiracy. I'm not sure I could ever accuse Ao T of anything. <3)
Its said that the humans have been fighting the titan's for ALOT longer than a mere century. It was only 100 years in which the humans found the Walled city and called it home, but the titans have been attacking presumably decades before. Its also hinted that Humanity has already wiped itself out, prior to the titan attack and reduce all of Humanity's knowledge and Technology to Dark Age-level. And just because they have syringes doesn't mean that they have advance technology. Syringes were invented as early as the 9th century with hypodermic needles around 1844.
I can't remember if this was explained, but when Annie kills the two Titans that Hanji was experimenting on why did she choose to use her own 3D Maneuver Gear, rather then use Marco's and show hers as at the inspection? I mean, if a person had two options for equipment to use, why would you show off the dead guys, something that could lead to your suspicion if you're recognized? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
It think it was explained once that each 3DMG is delicately finetuned on the user in terms of weigth, body strength and such. Using someone elses 3DMG might have caused her problems in such a risky task (like how Jean was much more clumsy with the other 3DMG he salvaged in Ep13). And I would assume that she never thought of someone noticing the difference from the outside anyway.
Going by the wikia here, but that doesn't seem to of been a restriction that was explained.
Not yet, no, but that's mainly because the 3DMG explanations are there for information we don't see in the story. We see pretty clearly that a 3DMG has to be custom-fitted to the user just by the way they're treated by the characters.
Uh... not it isn't. In fact it seems pretty clear that the gear can be used interchangeably between people, you'd just need to adjust the harness, like with Eren during the balance practice. You could try and say that this is made clear during the Titan Attack when Mikasa runs out of gas, but you also have to keep in mind there- that titans could attack at any moment, and stripping gear off would be impractical. Besides even if gear had to be specifically fitted to a user and couldn't be adjusted, Jean managed to just fine, and Annie is ranked higher then him among the trainees, so she SHOULD be able to do kill two bound titans with Marcos gear.
I was outright stated in chapter 32 and episode 24 that 3DMG's are finetuned to the user and using a different one is more difficult. That's why Annie used her own for that difficult task of killing the two titans that were under guard. And Jean in the anime did seem to move more clumsy with the salvaged gear especially for someone so skilled (I think he had almost the same 3DMG ranking as Annie).
It was explicitly stated at one point in the manga that, since killing Sonny and Bean meant performing the deed in the middle of military-controlled space, it required great skill and stealth to do without getting caught. The manga states that the perp would want to use their own gear because there ARE minor differences between sets of gear - not enough to make them unusable when swapped, but possibly enough to get you caught in a high-risk stealth operation if you're expecting to move at a certain speed and you suddenly find that your borrowed gear has lower gas propulsion speed. In all honesty, Annie did the right thing - no one would have caught on if Armin hadn't been the one standing right there, and hadn't been intimitely familiar with Marco's gear. If Armin weren't so observant, Annie would have likely gotten away with it.
So after the reveal of the Wall Titans, why IS meat a delicacy? It seems to me they've got a supply of infinite meat right there.
In case you are referring to Titan-meat: It disappears quickly after the Titan dies and might not really be all that edible for humans, let alone filling.
A common Fridge Logic on a certain Image Board includes Frodo Baggins asking why the humans don't just live underground considering they can produce wide range of three 100-feet walls in a considerably short period of time.
As with a lot of the weirder aspects of the setting, this eventually gets commented upon, though not directly answered yet. Apparently, the church has some conspiracy to keep things the way they are that has been insinuated to matter more than the continued survival than the human race.
It can also be perfectly explained with practical reasons, such as the city lacking the technology necessary for the minimal infrastructure of an underground city. It could be difficult to build, and picking the necessary cattle and crops from the surface would be insanely dangerous. Underground cities exist since before current technology, but they need a very specific type of rock or soil or otherwise metal for the support. And it is very evident the city lacks the possibility of mining ores for such construction (or, you know, the actual excavation), that there are mines inside the walls is mentioned in passing, but come on, any materials inside such a small area would hardly be enough for building anything long-standing. So, yeah, it is quite justified.
"Small"? If the information-available-for-public-disclosure can be believed, the area within Wall Maria is significantly larger than France (within Wall Rose is about 2/3 of the total). They've got all the raw material they could possibly want and more.
There's also the fact that giant Titans are walking about, so while they walk on the surface, all of the earth below it trembles, which could cause a cave-in for the underground city. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann provides an excellent example of this effect at work.
It turns out that the humans aren't able to build the walls on their own. The walls were actually created (and filled) by dormant Titans.
What are the means of operating the 3D maneuver gear? Considering that all the soldiers in the series are usually dual wielding blades when they use the gear to travel, there seems to be no practical mechanism of launching the hooks manually or aiming them. Even the design notes donít seem to have a description of how the user can release the hooks without his hands.
An omake following chapter three shows an illustration◊ of how the Maneuver Gear operates: the blade handles each have a cable attached to one end along with two individual "triggers" for releasing and retracting the hooks.
I can see the triggers used to release and retract the hooks, as well as the gas switch to release the gas. Now... how do they attach or release blades at will?
Another trigger on the back of the sword guard that open the blade slot when held down. It isn't shown on the linked sketch because it isn't a part of the actual Maneuver Gear system.
If humans possess the technology needed to produce maneuver gear powerful enough to propel human beings at high speeds to attack the Titans with blades, why don't they just build guns that fire larger blades that can cut through Titans and hit their weak point without throwing people at them?
Some of the cannons do just this. It is explained in-universe that they are very inaccurate, and thus mostly ineffective.
It would still cost fewer lives and require much less training than the maneuver gear. When in doubt, More Dakka.
They do use the cannons when they can. Titans move fast and the cannons load slowly (shown when one is used on Eren and friends), so without Improbable Aiming Skills, you can't kill much of anything with them unless the conditions are just right. Garrison troops tend to use their Maneuver Gear as a last resort when the Titans get past the cannons, and the Survey Corps can't carry cannons out with them on their expeditions because they're immobile.
Remember that the military rejects all weapons not made to specification, even when the new design is superior. It's quite likely that advanced modern-style accurate artillery would make very short work of the kinds of attacks we've seen so far (dudes on the walls with anti-materiel rifles would chew through most of them on their own!), and that the implied conspiracy knows this, and for whatever reason, doesn't want to make things too easy.
Wait, why didn't they divide the rings into sections when building the walls? That way, if one part of the wall were to fall, you lose just one section, not the entire ring.
It could have something to do with limited resources.
It becomes Fridge Horror when you realise than the Walls are made of Titans. The Walls are massive enough to have possibly hundreds of Titans. By adding sections, you're also adding more Titans. The day those Walls come down completely...
Did the manga ever say if Titans could swim or not?
No, the manga never mentions if the Titans are actually able to swim, but it is presumed they are able to if they were able to get rid of all Orientals, seeing as Asia has a lot of countries separated by water (particularly South East Asia).
Is it even certain that the series plays on OUR Earth, languages aside? The geography of the world could always be different than the one we know. Though granted, Titans should be able to somehow cross water just fine considering they don't need to breathe.
Wasn't it said they weren't very dense? So they can't plunge underwater but might be able to bob up and down, paddle somewhat, and ride the current to the next patch of land. Though I would like to see what sharks think about swimming hunks of meat bobbing in the ocean.
I understand that Erwin had an ulterior motive in luring out and catching the female titan, but when they planned the route to Eren's house, why didn't they just run in a straight line out of the east gate, all the way across to the nearest section of Wall Maria, use the 3DMG to climb Wall Maria, and then walk along the top of the wall, all the way to Zhiganshina? The wall still exists, and the only damage is to the south gates, so the rest of the wall is fine. You'd have to leave your horses at the bottom, but since the titans don't eat horses, they would be fine anyway. You could carry enough supplies with you on foot to keep the team fed, and avoid direct confrontation with the titans. You risk having fewer supplies and no horses once you reach Zhiganshina, but from a pure logistical standpoint, the avoidance of battle and massively decreased loss of life is way more important when your mission is an information run, not a battle.
I don't remember the exact dimensions, but a troper formerly mentioned that the inside of Wall Maria has a larger surface area than France. The troops probably wouldn't be able to carry the resources to walk that far.
It's possible that that was never a real plan anyway. Chapter 40-something confirms that they have portable elevators capable of lifting horses and that cavalry can ride along the Wall, so if they seriously wanted to get to Zhiganshina rather than fake out the Female Titan, they would probably either do that, or just leave from near Trost anyway. (Among other things they also conveniently forgot that Trost has a second gate into Maria; the river gate).
First off, the Female Titan was never a concern for Erwin when planning the expedition, he didn't even know about her until she attacked during the expedition. What he was worried about was a saboteur messing with information gathering projects. Second, the shortest path to a destination isn't always the best, especially when the most direct course is still over 62 miles of open terrain past man-eating giants, a winding path through any available cover on the route was the safer approach through Titan territory. Also, after five years of abandonment, it is a safe bet that the top of wall Maria is no longer in an easily transversal state.
While I'm not complaining, is it ever explained how Mikasa ever achieved her enhanced physical strength and ability? I'm not sure how one could argue the power needed to pass a blade through someone's ribcage without some close scrutiny being paid. It wouldn't be a big deal normally-Rule of Cool would normally deal with it-but she clearly did not have it before the event.
I'd say its the overall theme of the manga- you need to be willing to do stuff yourself in order to be strong. Eren, being the Determinator, has his titan shifting and mental control over mindless titans. Mikasa is equally ruthless in her willingness to step up and get stuff done herself rather than falling into complacency.
Is Eren really supposed to be this babied and taken care of? He's not useless, and these Dude In Distress situations are taking agency of a character who should be severely effective. The fact that he can turn into an Allied Titan should be exactly as advantageous and useful as that sounds, but no, they tell him not to use it or things like that. If he had ever gotten any kills with the Maneuver Gear combat, I wouldn't have a problem, but at least let him participate. You'll save more lives that way.
As useful as Eren is, it's known that he's not totally in control of his Titan form, and anyone who doesn't know him personally could see him as a mindless berserker who just attacks everything. And once the Female Titan arc starts, it's more about protecting humanity's greatest asset for when he's absolutely needed than not trusting him. This idea is reasonable, considering all his unassisted fights against intelligent Titans have resulted in him getting kidnapped.
So he can't fight back against his opponents, and everyone just looks at him and says, 'Oh, poor baby. Be a good little damsel and stay on the sidelines, we'll take care of you.' You see, I'm proud when he tries to fight back, because it feels like he's actually trying when no one else can think he can do anything. This is the guy who killed two grown men with his own cunning at child age. I think there's some loss of competency here...or at least a perception of one from the Corps. Mikasa strikes me as knowing better mentally, but her actions dictate otherwise.
Well, yeah. They're not correct in being so protecting of Eren, but they're not portrayed as being so. The Female Titan slaughtering his friends was meant to show that he's better off taking the risk than missing the chance and wishing he had.
Also, if Eren did get to keep fighting the way he wanted to scot-free, the theme that the writer is trying to do would not be highlighted as much. Like most Japanese manga-ka (At least, the ones I am aware of), the writer of attack on titan wants to emphasize one thing- Hard work is the best way. The author uses the Dude In Distress scenario just to make it easier for us to see just how 'bad' relying on the problem to be solved by others, or the 'easy way' is, when compared to Eren doing the stuff himself and taking the 'hard way' to ultimately succeed.
So okay, we don't succeed and not use the means by which to actually succeed. How many people died in the scout forces protecting him? If there is no success, then what is the point to keeping him behind? They could have beaten the Female Titan working together.
You're forgetting the mission at hand. Everything that's been going on has been a distraction from the mission that Eren is actually on: getting back to the basement of his house. The reason he keeps ending up in distress and not sent to the front lines to make a full-on assault on Titankind is because he's too important to risk until he gets back to that basement and finds whatever his father wanted him (and pointedly him, not Mikasa) to find, which has always been assumed to be vital information about Titans. Unfortunately, there's a whole bunch of people who think they have better things for him to be doing, so he gets kidnapped all the time.
If the Titans are solar-power and become dormant when cut off from sunlight, why don't the humans go out and kill them at night? Yes, I know visibility would be a problem with 3DMG, but they have torches, and by that light they could get clean shots on the necks of slow moving Titans with their firearms.
This is pretty much explained in-story. Torches just mean that the Titans can see them long before they see the Titans.
You might be overestimating how much light torches and other such light sources actually give off. It's really not a lot. If you really pushed your luck with an enormous and unwieldy chemical light source, you *might* have enough light to illuminate the whole Titan... but how do you find it in the first place?
You wouldn't need to have a great view of it, just enough to aim at the weak spot. As for finding one, they seem to be everywhere, and, y'know, Titans. And besides, they're dormant at night, it wouldn't be easy to attack, but it's better than going at them when they're active.
Again, it comes down to making yourself far easier to spot without helping your own visibility by much. The downsides of fighting Titans in the dark outweigh the benefits.
Are there more titan shifters inside the walls? If so, where did they come from? Do they have their own agendas separate from the ones of the main three? Do the titan shifters know they're titan shifters?
When Reiner/the Armored Titan was carrying Eren and Bertolt while being chased by Erwin and the rest, why didn't he just pop them inside him mouth as he did when he initially defeated Eren? Not only would that ensure Eren's incapacitation, it would allow him free use of his limbs. He could have crushed the titans and the Survey Corps that way, rather than having Eren literally snatched right under his nose.
When Annie popped Eren into her mouth, it was noted that she was a lot slower and didn't fight back. Sure, she was tired by that point, but maybe she might've accidentally bit him or swallowed him if she did.
http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/39 - In this comic, it seems like two titans are fighting each other. As we know from the episode where Eren first transforms, titans attacking each other is a rare occurence. Why did this happen?
Maybe because we've usually seen Titans in the presence of humans, where the drive to eat them probably overrides anything else they might do. When Titans are bored and alone, they might fight each other all the time.