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** I don't think lacking limbs makes one unable to transform, but rather, the body focusing on healing does. Eren couldn't transform when Reiner and Bertholdt kidnapped him because, to my recollection, he hadn't learned the ability to turn on and off his healing. I watched the scene with Eren inside the Titan, and though there is a lot of steam, I don't think any is coming from Eren. We know from Reiner transforming in Liberio that there is a point at which being too physically inured makes one's Titan less effective, though one could also say Reiner had next to no desire to fight or even live at that point, whereas Eren in Trost absolutely did, so willpower may have played a part.
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** I don't think lacking limbs makes one unable to transform, but rather, the body focusing on healing does. Eren couldn't transform when Reiner and Bertholdt kidnapped him because, to my recollection, he hadn't learned the ability to turn on and off his healing. I watched the scene with Eren inside the Titan, and though there is a lot of steam, I don't think any is coming from Eren. We know from Reiner transforming in Liberio that there is a point at which being too physically inured makes one's Titan less effective, though one could also say Reiner had next to no desire to fight or even live at that point, whereas Eren in Trost absolutely did, so willpower may have played a part.
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** My understanding of events is that Historia is officially powerless next to the military government, but has a good deal of informal influence through her popularity with the people. It was not too long ago that she became queen in spectacular fashion, and she was quite popular after that. Though I imagine her star somewhat faded as Eren became Paradis' new idol, she probably has enough love from the common people that the Jaegerists don't consider it worthwhile to spend the political power needed to get rid of her. We know Eren told Historia about the Rumbling and that she was horrified, but we don't exactly know if he used the Founding Titan to erase her memories of the conversation from the future like he said he would or if she was cowed into silence in some way. My interpretation is that she opposes and has always opposed the Jaegerists and believes preserving her role as monarch after the Rumbling, where she can temper their goals and prevent them from taking total control, is more useful than going all out against them and likely losing any and all influence.
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* I guess it's never really established how much authority she has next to the military junta, but I don't see her remaining in power whatsoever unless she publicly supported the actions of the Jägerists, which included political purges, and full-scale genocide. Option one: she actually did support these things, sided with Eren and got pregnant to help him accomplish this goal. Option two: she was actually horrified by Eren and his followers' actions, but supported them to stay in power against her own conscience (I think this is the least likely one). Option three: she didn't support them or oppose them, she simply stayed out of the conflict. Whichever one it is, I really wish she'd gotten more focus, because I honestly don't know what her motivations were.
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* I guess it's never really established how much authority she has next to the military junta, but I don't see her remaining in power whatsoever unless she publicly supported the actions of the Jägerists, which included political purges, and full-scale genocide. Option one: she actually did support these things, sided with Eren and got pregnant to help him accomplish this goal. Option two: she was actually horrified by Eren and his followers' actions, but supported them to stay in power against her own conscience (I think this is the least likely one). Option three: she didn't support them or oppose them, she simply stayed out of the conflict. Whichever one it is, I really wish she'd gotten more focus, because I honestly don't know what her motivations were.
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* In the English dub of the anime, Erwin refers to the cart titan as the quadruped titan, so they got at least that one wrong. Only later do we find out its official name.
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** Ymir's body was devoured by her children and Ymir keeps the power on.The creature is connected whoever has the founding titan's power. Eren isn't devoured and removed the power of titans from Eldians.
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* In the final climax of the series, "The source of all organic matter" tried to reattach itself to the Attack Titan after being severed from it. It fails to do so because of the heroes's actions and it dies when Eren is killed. Why didn't it died 2000 years ago when Ymir Fritz was killed by a spear?
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* In the final climax of the series, "The source of all organic matter" tried to reattach itself to the Attack Titan after being severed from it. It fails to do so because of the heroes's actions and it dies when Eren is killed. Why didn't it died 2000 years ago when Ymir Fritz was killed by a spear?
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* The official history is that the Eldians began to fight among themselves, giving the Marleyans an opportunity to rebel and overthrow them. The real history claimed by the Taybars is that King Fritz and the Taybars deliberately destroyed their own kingdom and propped up the Marleyans as heroes.
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** That's a waste of resources on par with taking one sip of milk from the carton and dumping the rest down a drain. Eren isn't just a tank, he's the closest thing the Scouting Legion has to an answer key to the entire frickin' universe. Wasting him in direct combat (especially now that we know [[spoiler: the MPs are specialized to fight ''humans'', as well as Titans]]} just so everybody else can get their sneak attack damage ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' style basically means killing a bunch of normal Titans (which, given their numbers and what we know about them now) is a meaningless victory, won at the cost of the only hope they have for change.
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** That's a waste of resources on par with taking one sip of milk from the carton and dumping the rest down a drain. Eren isn't just a tank, he's the closest thing the Scouting Legion has to an answer key to the entire frickin' universe. Wasting him in direct combat (especially now that we know [[spoiler: the MPs [=MPs=] are specialized to fight ''humans'', as well as Titans]]} just so everybody else can get their sneak attack damage ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' style basically means killing a bunch of normal Titans (which, given their numbers and what we know about them now) is a meaningless victory, won at the cost of the only hope they have for change.
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** Also, those inside the walls wouldn't have known a larger titan was going to show up. The Colossal was the largest recorded by far at 52 meters when it first appeared, so they called it the Colossal Titan. The Marleyans presumably didn't know about this sort of abnormal either and it's a pretty intuitive name to give to the biggest shifter power.
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** There wasn't any strict need for him to tell Historia. But remember that Historia previously, when disobeying her father, told Eren that she was starting to hate humanity and didn't care if they'd all get wiped out by Titans. She'd throw humanity's chance at a future away just to save Eren back then. How prophetic her words turned out to be is almost certainly not a coincidence; it's to draw a parallel between the situation back then and when Eren decides on his plan. Not to mention, she's probably the person he trusts the most, even more than Armin and Mikasa. If he's going to tell anyone, it would almost ''have'' to include her, just because of that defining character moment they shared. Considering telling Historia did little for the plot, there would have been no reason to include it if not to draw further attention to this connection and the thematic implications. I'd even go so far as to call it FridgeBrilliance.
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* Dauper is known to be north of where the scouts of the 104th were kept, placing it fairly close to Wall Sina. It's also a forested area, making it easier to hide in. It's quite conceivable for someone who's undergone some endurance training to go from Wall Sina to Dauper in a single day on foot. So assuming they were indeed held in one of the districts on the outside of Wall Sina, it wouldn't have taken them all that long to get there. Probably a few days at most. There's no strict rule saying that chapters have to come in order or that a chapter takes a certain amount of time, so, if it fits into the overall timeline to make that trek in one or two days, there aren't any issues.
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** Your math is way off. You claim that 130km takes 2 days on horseback. If we assume 8 hours of rest during both days, that leaves just 32 hours of being on horseback to travel from Stohess to Calaneth. The speed required for this would be a measly 4km/h, which is lower than average human walking speed at 5km/h. So if you just kept walking at a steady pace, you'd get there within 2 days ''on foot''. Considering the military's horses can in actuality comfortably maintain a speed of 35km/h, the distance between Stohess and Calaneth takes about 4 hours. (Annie could have gone faster than that, though; the horses have a top speed of 80km/h, and she did not need to conserve her horse's stamina since she was just travelling between two cities with it.) The expedition took from the early morning to around noon, so let's say 6 hours or so. Let's also give Annie some wiggle room by saying she needed 2 hours to prepare her ambush. That all adds up to 16 hours total. Adding 8 hours of rest makes for 24, meaning Annie could have done all this and gotten a full night's sleep at the end, all while taking her sweet time.
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** He could've enacted the plan with Zeke at any time he was in Marley. Presumably, that's what he would've done if he thought they didn't have much time. Besides, the reason Historia went and got herself a baby was to give Eren a chance to find an alternative to the rumbling (the real, genocidal version.) Eren was never interested in any alternative. He probably saw this as nothing more than a nifty side-benefit.
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* Why does Eren share his plan with Historia? The only other person he told was Floch, who helped Eren to set things up, but why does Eren need to tell Historia? We see that it was Historia's own suggestion to get pregnant in order to delay the transfer of Zeke's power to her, to buy Eren more time. So was Eren planning to ask Historia to get pregnant himself? He needs her to get pregnant for his plan to work but the scene plays out as though it was Historia's idea to do this. What was Eren's plan otherwise?
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* Why does Eren share his plan with Historia? The only other person he told was Floch, who helped Eren to set things up, but why does Eren need to tell Historia? We see that it was Historia's own suggestion to get pregnant in order to delay the transfer of Zeke's power to her, to buy Eren more time. So was Eren planning to ask Historia to get pregnant himself? He needs her to get pregnant for his plan to work but the scene plays out as though it was Historia's idea to do this. What was Eren's plan otherwise?
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* Zeke’s goal is reflective of his own warped mindset. To him, being born is the worst that can happen to a person. He feels life is so pointless and cruel that it’s better to simply never be born. This is what he says to Levi, when he says that he ''saved'' the children of the soldiers that he killed by ensuring they won’t be born into a cruel world. He believes that he is preventing all future generations from unbearable pain. As for taking away the Power of the Titans, [[spoiler: the ending implies that only Ymir herself can do that and even then, we see the animosity for Eldians does not go away.]] Plus, the only reason Marley were keeping the remaining Eldian’s alive was for military power. With that gone, they likely would just slaughter the survivors before they could die out naturally.
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* When Ymir died, Fritz had his daughters eat her corpse and spine so that they could inherit her power. In the Paths, we can see three branches form from the Coordinate, showing Ymir’s daughters now had Titan power as well, which would imply they did not inherit Ymir’s power by blood. Fritz then ordered his daughters to have many children and also to feed their spines to eat each other to keep inheriting Ymir’s power. So, it’s a combination of blood and spinal fluid. It’s likely there was a great deal of experimentation and variations in how the power of the Titans was passed on, e.g. one of Ymir’s daughters may not have had children and was instead eaten by another a non-royal Eldian, creating a new branch. In any case, it likely got messy over 2000 years of genealogy, creating many aberrations, which would explain the Nine Titan Powers. The Royal Family that we see, may simply be the only branch that can use the Founding Titans power, thus many them ''royal blood''.
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*** Yeah... That's not gonna work. [[spoiler: We see Falco ingest Zeke's spinal fluid and it does not turn him into a shifter. It's still not clear why there are nine shifters but that number is a constant. On the other hand when Falco eats Porco who was the previous Jaw Titan, then he can become a shifter. But basically it seems [[SomeoneHasToDie one must die]] for another to revive.]]
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If Ymir Fritz molded all of the Titans' bodies, then who and/or what molded her Titan form?
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** An omake following Chapter 3 [[http://img.batoto.net/comics/2011/05/23/s/read4ddacf72c5b4d/140.png shows an illustration]] of how the Maneuver Gear operates: the blade handles each have a cable attached to one end along with two individual "triggers" for releasing and retracting the hooks.
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* [[http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/39 In this comic]], it seems like two Titans are fighting each other. As we know from the episode where Eren first transforms, Titans attacking each other is a rare occurrence. Why did this happen?
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* [[http://www.mangareader.net/shingeki-no-kyojin/39 In this comic]], a certain comic, it seems like two Titans are fighting each other. As we know from the episode where Eren first transforms, Titans attacking each other is a rare occurrence. Why did this happen?
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** Also, we have this useful little tool that you can play around with. It's a map of the world with the apparent dimensions of the Walls overlayed on it. http://davidmear.com/snk/map/
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Why is the royal family the only bloodline that can use the Founding Titan? Isn't it established in the story that ALL subjects of Ymir descend from her? I am aware that Ymir was not the first Eldian, but Annie discovers that the puppet government of Paradis were Eldians but not subjects of Ymir, establishing that Eldians and subjects of Ymir are not the same thing. And it makes no sense that Ymir's entire tribe would gain the ability to become Titans along with her. And it makes no sense whatsoever for the Reiss family and Zeke to be her only descendants after 2000 years. Someone who lived 2000 years ago would usually have either zero or millions of descendants living today. The author seems to be telling us that the Fritz/Reiss family are the only descendants of Ymir, while simultaneously telling us that all subjects of Ymir are descended from her.
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Why is the royal family the only bloodline that can use the Founding Titan? Isn't it established in the story that ALL subjects of Ymir descend from her? I am aware that Ymir was not the first Eldian, but Annie discovers that the puppet government of Paradis were Eldians but not subjects of Ymir, establishing that Eldians and subjects of Ymir are not the same thing. And it makes no sense that Ymir's entire tribe would gain the ability to become Titans along with her. And it makes no sense whatsoever for the Reiss family and Zeke to be her only descendants after 2000 years. Someone who lived 2000 years ago would usually have either zero or millions of descendants living today. The author seems to be telling us that the Fritz/Reiss family are the only descendants of Ymir, while simultaneously telling us that all subjects of Ymir are descended from her.
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Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that an army merely "faster than a horse" could "level a continent in four days." Assuming these figures are literal instead of hyperbolic, let's do some math. A galloping horse clocks in at 54.7mph. Australia, the smallest continent, is 4,000 miles long West-to-East. 4,000/54.7=73.12, giving us the minimum number of hours it would take these beasts to simply ''cross'' a continent. While that still holds up if they had enough members to simply march east to west in a single file formation like a drawing curtain, keep in mind that that's exactly how they were standing while in the walls, which looked to have only been one giant thick, and which could fit on the Island of Madagascar when wrapped into three circles.
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Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that an army merely "faster than a horse" could "level a continent in four days." Assuming these figures are literal instead of hyperbolic, let's do some math. A galloping horse clocks in at 54.7mph. Australia, the smallest continent, is 4,000 miles long West-to-East. 4,000/54.7=73.7=~73.12, giving us the minimum number of hours it would take these beasts to simply ''cross'' a continent. While that still holds up if they had enough members to simply march east to west in a single file formation like a drawing curtain, keep in mind that that's exactly how they were standing while in the walls, which looked to have only been one giant thick, and which could fit on the Island of Madagascar when wrapped into three circles.
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Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that an army merely "faster than a horse" could "level a continent in four days." Assuming these figures are literal instead of hyperbolic, let's do some math. A galloping horse clocks in at 54.7mph. Australia, the smallest continent, is 4,000 miles long West-to-East. 4,000/54.7=73.12, giving us the minimum number of hours it would take these beasts to simply ''cross'' a continent. While that still holds up if they had enough members to simply march east to west in a single file formation like a drawing curtain, but keep in mind that that's exactly how they were standing while in the walls, which looked to have only been one giant thick, and which could fit on the Island of Madagascar when wrapped into three circles.
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Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that an army merely "faster than a horse" could "level a continent in four days." Assuming these figures are literal instead of hyperbolic, let's do some math. A galloping horse clocks in at 54.7mph. Australia, the smallest continent, is 4,000 miles long West-to-East. 4,000/54.7=73.12, giving us the minimum number of hours it would take these beasts to simply ''cross'' a continent. While that still holds up if they had enough members to simply march east to west in a single file formation like a drawing curtain, but keep in mind that that's exactly how they were standing while in the walls, which looked to have only been one giant thick, and which could fit on the Island of Madagascar when wrapped into three circles.
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Sorry if I missed something while reading through these pages, but there's just no way that a bunch of giant dudes stomping around, even ones with SuperSpeed, could cause a Class 4 Apocalypse How, let alone a class 5 ('''all multicellular''' life? From a bunch of big dudes stomping around? Seriously?), Though I could definitely see it causing a class 1, maybe even a class 2 if given a ''very'' generous amount of time (more on that at the end). Eeven ignoring for a moment the fact that Eren really has no reason to be going after nonhuman life that wasn't simply in the way at the time, imagine if a bunch of dude tried to fumigate a lawn crawling with zillions of ants simply by stomping around. It's a great way to crush all the anthills, sure, but the thing about tiny critters about to be stepped on by giant critters is that they can ''move out of the way''. Or dig underground. Or fly over you (if they have wings). Or even pull a Creator/BusterKeaton and simply stand in the right spot at the right time through sheer dumb luck.
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Sorry if I missed something while reading through these pages, but there's just no way that a bunch of giant dudes stomping around, even ones with SuperSpeed, could cause a Class 4 Apocalypse How, let alone a class 5 ('''all multicellular''' life? From a bunch of big dudes stomping around? Seriously?), Though I could definitely see it causing a class 1, maybe even a class 2 if given a ''very'' generous amount of time (more on that at the end). Eeven Even ignoring for a moment the fact that Eren really has no reason to be going after nonhuman life that wasn't simply in the way at the time, imagine if a bunch of dude dudes tried to fumigate a lawn crawling with zillions of ants simply by stomping around. It's a great way to crush all the anthills, sure, but the thing about tiny critters about to be stepped on by giant critters is that they can ''move out of the way''. Or dig underground. Or fly over you (if they have wings). Or even pull a Creator/BusterKeaton and simply stand in the right spot at the right time through sheer dumb luck.
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Sorry if I missed something while reading through these pages, but there's just no way that a bunch of giant dudes stomping around, even ones with SuperSpeed, could cause a Class 4 Apocalypse How, let alone a class 5 ('''all multicellular''' life? From a bunch of big dudes stomping around? Seriously?), Though I could definitely see it causing a class 1, maybe even a class 2 if given a ''very'' generous amount of time (more on that at the end). Eeven ignoring for a moment the fact that Eren really has no reason to be going after nonhuman life that wasn't simply in the way at the time, imagine if a bunch of dude tried to fumigate a lawn crawling with zillions of ants simply by stomping around. It's a great way to crush all the anthills, sure, but the thing about tiny critters about to be stepped on by giant critters is that they can ''move out of the way''. Or dig underground. Or fly over you (if they have wings). Or even pull a Creator/BusterKeaton and simply stand in the right spot at the right time.
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Sorry if I missed something while reading through these pages, but there's just no way that a bunch of giant dudes stomping around, even ones with SuperSpeed, could cause a Class 4 Apocalypse How, let alone a class 5 ('''all multicellular''' life? From a bunch of big dudes stomping around? Seriously?), Though I could definitely see it causing a class 1, maybe even a class 2 if given a ''very'' generous amount of time (more on that at the end). Eeven ignoring for a moment the fact that Eren really has no reason to be going after nonhuman life that wasn't simply in the way at the time, imagine if a bunch of dude tried to fumigate a lawn crawling with zillions of ants simply by stomping around. It's a great way to crush all the anthills, sure, but the thing about tiny critters about to be stepped on by giant critters is that they can ''move out of the way''. Or dig underground. Or fly over you (if they have wings). Or even pull a Creator/BusterKeaton and simply stand in the right spot at the right time.
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