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theodrixx Since: Sep, 2011
Nov 16th 2011 at 3:10:15 PM •••

Isn't it odd that in the entire town of Ponyville, Twilight and Co. are apparently the only ones who don't know about Cutie Pox?

As soon as Spike mentions it, absolutely everyone goes bananas.

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EpikuriousOranj Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 17th 2011 at 11:37:07 AM •••

Maybe Canterlot has a different public health situation; maybe the previous outbreak happened in Ponyville or nearby (how many people not from near Derbyshire know about Eyam, for example?).

He does bring it up as a mysterious disease with "no known cure", to the panic-happy flower trio no less. The rest is just the usual pony stampede.

theodrixx Since: Sep, 2011
Nov 17th 2011 at 9:51:17 PM •••

I like the localized epidemic theory, as well as the analogy.

JapaneseTeeth Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 22nd 2012 at 5:48:26 PM •••

I'm pretty sure the panic was less due to them recognizing the Cutie Pox, and more due to Spike's comment about it.

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NoChorus Since: May, 2010
Nov 12th 2011 at 5:03:52 PM •••

So, after looking at the symptoms of the Cutie Pox, (Gain multiple talents, can't control or stop using them, no matter how much they want to) should there be an And I Must Scream entry for it?

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Calnos Since: May, 2011
ThMole Since: Mar, 2011
Nov 13th 2011 at 4:42:51 AM •••

It reminds me of the old story of the Red Shoes, (a girl gets a pair of magical shoes that allow her to dance better than anyone else, but although they work, she discovers that she can't take them off and she will just keep dancing until she drops from exhaustion — and in some versions of the story, possibly death).

I checked, and although it was a story by Hans Christian Andersen, it does not seem to be a trope in itself (please double check, since I might have missed it or it might be listed under another name).

EpikuriousOranj Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 17th 2011 at 11:45:16 AM •••

Of note: Applebloom's tap-dancing cutie pockmark is a red tap shoe.

WarriorSparrow Since: Sep, 2010
Nov 27th 2011 at 4:18:40 AM •••

Maybe not necessarily an And I Must Scream situation, but more like something that could eventually lead to death - if Applebloom had been unable to stop, she would have likely died from exhaustion by overworking her body (similar to the Dancing Plague of 1518), and she could have caused potential harm/death to others if she got a bad cutie mark.

I couldn't help but think of Story Of The Blanks all through that part.

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theodrixx Since: Sep, 2011
theodrixx Since: Sep, 2011
Nov 12th 2011 at 12:20:12 PM •••

I thought the timestamp would be enough.

EDIT: the link was wrong, my bad.

Right after she says "It's just a cutie mark!" her expression turns to one of anger, apparently for no reason.

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KendraKirai Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 26th 2011 at 11:48:37 AM •••

I figure she's annoyed that Applebloom is taking this so hard/seriously.

EpikuriousOranj Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 12th 2011 at 3:15:32 PM •••

Can anyone figure out what the The Jimmy Hart Version or Standard Snippet is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo3Atz2nWKs#t=07m4s (the classical-sounding court-type music playing when Applebloom shows off her first fake cutie mark)? It's bugging me, and I'm fairly certain it's been used previously in the show. Annoyingly I keep trying to map it to A Clockwork Orange, damned if I know why...

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ThMole Since: Mar, 2011
Nov 13th 2011 at 4:32:44 AM •••

It sounds like the music they play at high school and university graduations, but I don't know the name of it off-hand. If we can figure out what the name is, it might be worth checking to see if the music itself is a trope, since it is played in about every movie and tv show with a graduation scene in it.

theodrixx Since: Sep, 2011
Nov 13th 2011 at 10:25:01 AM •••

do you mean pomp and circumstance?

It's not very similar, but it's definitely reminiscent of the style. It's probably just meant to be a generic royal procession type thing.

EpikuriousOranj Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 17th 2011 at 11:30:06 AM •••

There's part of Brahms's Academic Festival Overture, common in Europe for university graduations that's similar, but it's not really a close match.

My instincts might have been right. Looks like it's The Jimmy Hart Version of the chorale from Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, 4th movement, specifically the bit leading up to the "Froh, Froh, ...".

Bad Fridge Horror moment, oh my tropers and bronies. The piece is used in the film of A Clockwork Orange while Alex struts around the record shop leading up to his seduction of the two naïve teenagers. It's considerably nastier in the book; he drugs and rapes them. They're ten. Anyone else think the incidental music guy was going for a reference, plus hints of cocksure strut + imminent deceit?

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theodrixx Since: Sep, 2011
Nov 22nd 2011 at 12:37:21 AM •••

I highly doubt that. First of all, they are not very similar. There's some rhythmic similarity, but not much else. Besides, the snippet from the episode is very simple and short - I doubt the composer would have borrowed from the public domain to make such an inconsequential little tune.

Also... a reference, however oblique, to rape in MLP:Fi M? No.

EpikuriousOranj Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 24th 2011 at 4:56:55 PM •••

I'm very glad indeed that the answer to the question you put in my mouth is no. That would have no place in a children's cartoon. I don't think it's a reference to the film or hints of deceit either: the same snippet has indeed been used in MLP:FIM S1 in the opening to Suited for Success. With plenty of strutting.

Back on topic, it's a close match (the Turkish March bit of the 9th, 4th movement that is). Same rhythm, slightly different melody, similar instrumentation. But it's true that it's only a bar or three. Why change it if copyright is not an issue, I dunno, but the match seems close enough to my cloth ears.

AppleDashWINS Since: Nov, 2011
Nov 15th 2011 at 10:14:46 AM •••

Can we label Michelle Creber as a Cast Show Off? I mean, she does a great job as Apple Bloom, we know she can sing awesomely, and now we have her speaking French! I mean, I don't even know the VA's of Scoots and Sweetie!

AppleDashWINS Since: Nov, 2011
Nov 14th 2011 at 9:31:14 AM •••

I think a better image for this page would be a screenshot of Apple Bloom showing off her talents (probably the part where she jumps in the air and blocks the sun) and then the current screenshot, with a caption "Be Careful What You Wish For"

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rjung Since: Jan, 2015
Nov 14th 2011 at 11:39:56 PM •••

You can't really show off her talents with a static picture; at least the current one shows (a) she's got a dozen cutie marks, and (b) she's not happy about it.

AppleDashWINS Since: Nov, 2011
Nov 15th 2011 at 9:12:52 AM •••

well, there was that part where she was showing off the plate spinning and the hula hoop, and she's having the time of her life, so at first it seems awesome, but then we see how it actually sucks with the second picture (the current one)

Kairu Since: Oct, 2010
Nov 14th 2011 at 7:29:14 AM •••

Of course a pony couldn't really lift a barbel or spin a hoop on its tail, but the article as it is now describes an equine tail as nothing more than a lock of hair. There IS a mobile tail inside there, enough to swish and flick, one wouldn't have to shake one's rump to move it.

Godzillawolf Since: Jul, 2010
Nov 12th 2011 at 12:26:41 PM •••

Is there a trope for the real aesop of the episode? That being doing things the RIGHT way instead of cheating and taking short cuts to get what you want?

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theodrixx Since: Sep, 2011
Nov 12th 2011 at 6:39:48 PM •••

Do we have any French-speaking tropers? What was Apple Bloom saying after she got her fleur-de-lis cutie mark?

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Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 12th 2011 at 6:58:52 PM •••

This isn't an exact translation but it's more to get across what's being said (also, some words seem garbled)

Starting from here

Oh my gosh! Another Cutie Mark! *Gasp* What's this? I'm speaking French?

(After Applejack saying they need to find someone with a cure)

Right now!

*Scene transition to Ponyville*

Hurry up you guys!

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ThMole Since: Mar, 2011
Nov 13th 2011 at 4:54:57 AM •••

The reaction to the revelation of the Cutie Pox to the Flower Trio causes the entire town to panic (shutting themselves indoors, putting on HazmatSuits, screaming, and running out of town). I think this is Fear Is the Appropriate Response, but it doesn't seem to fit exactly. Is there a better trope to describe what happened?

RedVoltron Since: Nov, 2011
Nov 12th 2011 at 8:12:04 PM •••

I can see the Crusaders Vocal Minority complaining about the very end of this episode now. but the Aesop was more about not taking shortcuts then just pacience. and besides, everypony totally understands their desire for cutie marks, so we should to.

DrWhooves Since: Jul, 2011
Nov 12th 2011 at 7:48:02 AM •••

Actually, Rarity did speak, but it was just one line.

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linuslion Since: May, 2011
Nov 12th 2011 at 8:15:04 AM •••

Yeah, Rarity only had one line. Tabitha St. Germain did still voice throughout, though, as Zecora and also Granny Smith in one scene (she's been speaking alot lately)

theodrixx Since: Sep, 2011
Nov 12th 2011 at 12:05:20 PM •••

Tabitha St. Germain has never voiced Zecora. It's a curiously stubborn rumor for some reason.

abomb30 Since: Jan, 2011
Nov 12th 2011 at 5:35:15 PM •••

Yeah, I don't know why people keep saying that, because so far I haven't seen any indication at all of Zecora's actress.

Although I swear she sounds like Phil La Marr.

TheNerfGuy Since: Mar, 2011
Nov 1st 2011 at 1:20:15 PM •••

How many of you think this one's gonna be hilarious? How many think it'll be sad? How many'll think it's in-between?

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DoryuuzuPWNSall Since: Jan, 2011
Nov 6th 2011 at 9:27:22 AM •••

It sounds like a funny one to me. However, if poor Apple Bloom doesn't get her real cutie mark after all that, at least I'll be sad for her.

"Ice Bear believed in you".
RLYoshi Since: Apr, 2011
Nov 10th 2011 at 1:20:16 PM •••

If this goes the way I think it will, it'll be part-funny, part-sad, and end heartwarmingly.

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