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Dec 18th 2017 at 11:27:11 AM •••

So much Fan Myopia at work here. This describes a very specific genre, Western, 1950-2010 sci-fi. There's a whole world of media out there that this barely applies to. It probably applies pretty well to shonen manga, because that has so much in common with western SF/F (particularly from Star Wars influence). But other genres, in any country? Those exist.

Jan 8th 2016 at 5:17:22 PM •••

in the video games entry we have examples of protagonists who arenīt leaders of any group and still are here, are they really examples of this trope? or is that they are only things like Heroic Mime and Featureless Protagonist, because i think it doesn't exactly fits this trope if they aren't the leaders of the group

Jul 20th 2012 at 8:50:45 AM •••

If this is a Subjective Trope, should this have the YMMV banner?

Jan 25th 2012 at 2:40:03 PM •••

Should this trope be added to the Bad Writing index?

Edited by MarkLungo
Nov 11th 2011 at 9:50:43 AM •••

How is aqualad from young justice a standardized leader. HE to me and a few others to be a well balance character. He is more a rounded and static character then anything else.

Edited by kiknos
May 7th 2010 at 12:51:40 PM •••

I don't get the Sailor Moon entry. "The others are the Smart One, Strong One, Popular One (linked to The Ojou), Loner One and she is... umm, the Dumb One?" Obviously the first three are Ami, Makoto and Rei, but how could Minako be called a loner?

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Jun 5th 2010 at 6:08:53 AM •••

I also guessed this(Come on, she is only a version less stupid-and more immature of Usagi). By the way, the story is driven by her conflicts(the others are only episodic) and her personality, being a Genki Girl with Love Freak/ The Messiah and mischievous tendencies,hardly is the more emotionally balanced(actually she is the id and the red oni in a Red Oni, Blue Oni when compared with all less Minako), she hardly sounds serious(actually, she is the less disciplinated of the group!)In other words, she hardly fits.

Edited by MagBas
Jul 12th 2010 at 2:10:16 PM •••

  • Sailor Moon and her Expies are usually the least defined or most different from their teams. While the other Scouts have Elemental Powers, she has... umm, love powers? The others are the Smart One, Strong One, Popular One, Loner One and she is... umm, the Dumb One? And while everyone else is Color-Coded for Your Convenience, she isn't. The author says to trust her word that Moon is supposed to be pink. Wait, what?
    • Sailor Moon's powers seem to be the most important ones, including a Finishing Move that could turn monsters back into people.
      • Her Power is much clearer in the manga. It's resurrection and a power no one else in the galaxy has and the key for the control of the universe. She's way better treated in the manga than the anime which exaggerated all her flaws by a thousand. She's the epitome of the messiah.

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