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Dorkfishie A Fish Since: Nov, 2018
A Fish
Mar 18th 2024 at 3:44:33 PM •••

Why isn't this counted as YMMV, while its opposite, Spiritual Successor, does count as one?

BloodRedKnight Since: Nov, 2019
Sep 30th 2020 at 6:20:55 AM •••

Cobra Kai to Bojack Horseman, both are about washed up middle aged alcoholics trying to get back on their feet Bojack is rich and is often portrayed as the problem with his attitude doing more harm than good. Johnny is lower income and while gruff is usually the voice of reason and pushes people to achieve their best. Cobra Kai uses a lot of the humor that Bojack Horseman tries to avoid like victim-based, slapstick, crude, and politically incorrect.

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DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
Wizzard
Nov 24th 2017 at 2:33:59 PM •••

Pulled this:

That's not how I remember The Man Who Has Everything. I remember it starting out like this, and then we get paranoid racist Jor-El, Kara getting beaten up by political protesters, and religious fanatics marching through Kryptonopolis. Culminating in a tearful Kal-El having to tell his son "I love you, but ... I don't think you're real." When Mongul says Superman should have stayed in his happy fantasy, the suggestion it was happy turns out to be a Berserk Button.

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TheMightyHeptagon Since: Aug, 2011
Mar 5th 2018 at 6:18:27 PM •••

Sorry, I know I'm late to the game on this one, but I have to disagree.

The darker elements of Superman's Lotus-Eater Machine fantasy—Jor-El as a paranoid racist, Kara getting beaten up by protesters, and the fanatical Sword of Rao group—were in the comic book, not in the animated adaptation that aired as an episode of Justice League. In the TV version, Jor-El was just a slightly bitter has-been scientist with a decent relationship with his son and grandchildren, and Kryton was depicted as a perfectly stable society with a benevolent Brainiac making life easy for everyone. And even in the comic book version, Kal-El still got so attached to the fantasy that it brought him to tears to admit that it wasn't real; it wasn't the fantasy itself that Superman found upsetting, it was the fact that it was all an illusion. Compare that to Batman in "Perchance to Dream", who was clearly unnerved by his fantasy from the beginning, and spent the whole story trying to get out.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010
Oct 18th 2013 at 7:26:13 PM •••

"Cyberpunk & Post Cyber Punk and a little-known Punk Punk genre actually called "Punk Punk" that has more realistic technology and characters loyally working for the sorts of corporations that Cyberpunk and Post Cyber Punk protagonists rebel against."

I think this is a misunderstanding of what Post-Cyberpunk means. If anything, I'd say it's the spiritual antithesis in question.

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