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Mar 22nd 2021 at 8:07:19 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Split off Torture Porn, started by DragonQuestZ on Aug 18th 2011 at 5:29:01 AM

Mar 20th 2021 at 11:41:16 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Needs Help, started by AmateurPolymath on Sep 20th 2012 at 12:14:38 AM

Jul 26th 2015 at 3:40:49 AM •••

Cut a long time ago. You'd have to ask in the Trope Repair Shop to get that changed.

Jan 19th 2016 at 1:49:01 PM •••

I suspect I know why.

An example necessarily has to be something that's gory for the express sake of the catharsis in the gore itself. From the perspective of the consumer (player, viewer, reader, and so on), that's problematically ambiguous (though not outright subjective); worse, the distinction is very probably lost on a majority of tropers and you wind up with a lot of "examples" that are merely very gory, without any respect or concern for the intent of the scene or work.

We'd basically need Word of God on every single example and that's asking entirely too much.

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Mar 2nd 2014 at 3:50:05 AM •••

The reason given is "Disproportionately targeted at male characters."

Apr 17th 2012 at 4:00:16 PM •••

More to the point, why'd it get deleted?

May 2nd 2012 at 10:15:36 AM •••

Likewise. I don't even remember a discussion anywhere about removing Gorn examples.

May 3rd 2012 at 10:35:56 AM •••

You might want to direct that question to Fast Eddie, since he was the one responsible for the Example Sectionectomy.

May 10th 2012 at 4:52:34 AM •••

^He has a habit of not responding to PMs; you can try on the forums (Content Violations to be specific) if you want to.

Sep 7th 2013 at 9:18:14 AM •••

Because having any examples at all was "creepy" or something.

May 5th 2014 at 10:58:21 AM •••

God forbid a creepy trope have creepy examples.

Mar 27th 2015 at 2:49:33 PM •••

Can we revisit this? I'm bothered by the implications of permanently removing this examples section. It's fine if gore isn't your thing but looks to me like we're now into the territory of passing judgement on anyone who would want to know the examples. As if there are no such things as fans who consume violent horror flicks as thrillers, or revel in over-the-top-silly splatter, or have group movie nights where it's a matter of shared pride to be able to withstand the most intense images and stories available. How about practical FX enthusiasts or aspirants who are seeking examples to benefit their understanding? There's an implied accusation here that anyone who would want examples in the Gorn section is just looking to satisfy some twisted sexualized fetish because they can't Rosie Palms to the foot-sawing scene in Audition anymore. That's not only ignorant to the point of silliness, it's an actual obstacle to creativity that I feel is counter to the values and best purposes of this community. Plus there's an element of "Complaining About X You Don't Y" to it.

Mar 28th 2015 at 2:45:06 AM •••

Bring it up in the Wiki Talk forum.

Jul 29th 2011 at 4:52:06 PM •••

"That would be a man-in-rubber-suit fetish of some sort gone horribly wrong."

I want to high five whoever put that there so much. XD

Jan 23rd 2011 at 11:28:15 AM •••

Okay, why was Punisher: War Zone taken out? I mean, the movie includes a scene where Frank Castle punches *through* a baddies face. If that's not gorn...

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Jul 29th 2011 at 4:52:31 PM •••

Anyone want me to put it back in there? I can do that!

Nov 22nd 2010 at 4:42:18 AM •••

Because we don't like horribly bloody pictures and have already used the kitty-instead-of-violence joke somewhere else

Aug 30th 2010 at 2:39:42 AM •••

I'm so confused. Is this trope talking about extreme violence or violence as some sort of sexual fetish?

Mar 5th 2010 at 4:16:58 PM •••

Guro vs. ero-guro: Ero-guro (short for ero guro nansensu, "erotic grotesque nonsense") is not (necessarily) gorn. It is an art movement that uses disturbing, distorted, or surrealist imagery, which may or may not include gore and/or explicit sexual components. Gorn most closely relates to guro, which is a related genre of violent eroticicism/pornography. For instance, these images are ero-guro but not guro, by artists (Suehiro Maruo, Shintaro Kago) who do both.

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