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, started by YasminPerry on Jan 5th 2016 at 2:21:55 PM
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Is One Piece Genre Busting? Because it started out as just an Adventure-Comedy-Drama but then all the mysteries and the robots and stuff. I dunno can someone explain why or why not? Also there’s a little sci-fi in there also.
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Couldn't Yume Nikki and LSD: Dream Simulator be described as dreamscape games?
IS Dreamscape a recognized genre, actually?
I wonder what a strip tease from a creature made of souls would be like?
WAYYYY too many examples on this page are really Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly. I'd like to move a lot of them there, but I'm worried of massive backlashes resulting in my unrelated edits being reverted, perhaps accidentally, as well.
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If you are sure that they fit that trope and not this one, go ahead.
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I just removed the following example for not really seeming to fit in with the trope, as well as for improper Example Indentation:
- J. R. R. Tolkien's books were a blend of old and new-made mythology and the Trope Codifier for High Fantasy.
- The Lord of the Rings also broke the medieval epic hero genre by making the protagonists ordinary people, putting the standard epic hero (royalty, ancestral weapon, takes part in an enormous battle) in a secondary role as a diversion from the main protagonist's goal, which isn't accomplished in a very heroic way at all. It's also interesting to note that the chapter "The Scouring of the Shire" makes it clear evil hasn't truly been defeated or eradicated, something many Tolkien-inspired high fantasists would gloss over.
This doesn't really strike me as "genre busting" in any particular way — it's just a few spins on an already established genre. Thoughts?
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I just commented out two examples from the Live-Action Television section. They're not all that bad, but they don't explain the How or the Where of the trope. Someone mind fixing them, since I don't know anything about either?
- Life On Mars is, at its core, a cop show that also has an Ontological Mystery plot.
- Ashes to Ashes contains much more prevalent themes of the Supernatural and Sci-Fi, especially Season 3.
I feel like a lot of the anime listed for here are stretching the intended purpose of this entry. People over complicate descriptions so they fit here.
Clannad: Harem comedy, with a sharp genre shift to drama in the second season.
Planetes: Sci-fi. Relationship-building is not a genre. Comic relief is not a genre.
Hell Girl: Horror. Listing suspense as an additional genre is redundant. Saying the show is slice-of-life is less accurate than calling the series a collection of vignettes.
Baccano!: (Period) Action. The ensemble cast and achronlogical storytelling are not genre elements.
Hetalia: Historical parody. Anthropomorphism and fridge horror are not genres. Yaoi subtext is not a genre in itself. If it were, we'd have to list everything with at least two male characters here.
Tiger & Bunny: Superhero show and buddy cop story are a pretty logical genre combination. The deconstruction is limited to superheroes being TV stars with sponsors and there's little to no deconstructive examination of the consequences or effects of such. As for slice-of-life, the term has been misapplied.
Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Magical Girl show. Saying it has drama is redundant, as most magical girl shows include strong drama elements. The cosmic horror elements apply mainly to how creepy the monsters look.
I haven't seen Spider-Riders, but action-adventure show (with giant spiders!) hardly seems genre defying. If anything, it sounds incredibly generic with a simple gimmick.
Finally, Boku no Pico's entry seems to be based entirely around a non-conventional target demographic rather than its content, which is typcially just listed as porn. And there is a label for it anyway: shota.
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Removed Bubba Ho Tep. The premise is original, but its genre is clearly just horror-comedy. That's not unusual.
Star Wars does not belong on this list. It's Space Opera. All the things listed are influences, not the genre of the series (for crying out loud, how can Star Wars even be a World War II film?).
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Neither does Inception, it's just a heist film. Maybe it's weird and has some sci-fi elements, but it's clearly just a heist film.
The Pixar section is full of bullshit too, in my humble opinion. I'm not entirely sure whether the films themselves are genre busting or not though.
The thing is, a lot of the things mention are not genres, and while tvtropes is not meant to be too serious, this is just misinformation, and that's not something you want on a wiki.
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What's the relationship between this and Mix And Match?
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After reading this page and the examples I can safely say I am very confused. As it stands this trope is very YMMV there are no set parameters, definitions, or qualifications for a series to be called a Genre Buster. The examples do not help clear this up because they go from series with a few blended genres to works that started new genres.
This needs some clarification.
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It seems like this is meant for works that are difficult to describe as any genre (unusual combinations of genres seems to be okay). The difference between this and Genre Launch seems to be that Genre Busters either have no imitators (such as Haruhi Suzumiya) or no successful imitators (such as Wario Ware).
That's my guess anyway.
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I don't get it - Katamari Damacy and only a very few other works on this page seem to actually be indescribable genre-wise. Almost everything else is just a fusion genre. Take Portal - yeah, it's unique in its game play, but when it's described as "first-person puzzle game", that's just two relatively well-known genres getting fused into one game. It's both a first-person shooter and a puzzle game. Same goes for Firefly as a Space Western or Asimov's "robot detective stories". If it's a detective story, following those genre conventions, why does it become a completely new kind of plot if it has robots in it? it doesn't.
I think the description needs to be cleared up, because I don't see why those should count as "genre-busting" and not, say, Chobits as a sci-fi romance. I wouldn't count Chobits (or any of these) as creating a whole new genre, just successfully fusing existing ones.
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There's a difference between "Two genres that could go together" (in the Chobits example, there's no reason a sci-fi setting couldn't have romance in it) vs. two genres that typically don't contain the other by definition (like, say, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies — yes, it's a mashup of victorian lit and zombie horror, but who would've thought to put the two together?)
Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Misused
, started by shoboni on Mar 17th 2013 at 12:30:14 AM
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