The original the elder scroll Morrowind, oblivion, and Skyrim as dark and gritty atmosphere similar to Dark soul and Witcher,
the recurring theme of the Elder scroll game is free will and survival within its universe. so I break it down into categories why elder scroll is considered as "Dark and gritty "
Doom and gloom,
Within the elder scroll games Morrowind, oblivion and Skyrim environment structure has this malevolent threat that the world is coming to end by apocalyptic force manifest by supernatural forces or predestined prophecies that involves malevolent beings or an antagonistic army, false gods and denizens to invade and Tamriel, these themes heavily reflect different religious and pagans views within Tamriel, basically, the original game themes reflect Gnosticism over doom and gloom.
Mysteria and suspense,
As the original games have lore contradictions that are supported by the Unreliable narrator viewpoint (you as the player) The mysteries of each game are present in shock suspenseful way and the majority has is portray as somber atmosphere over it. All three games feature a sinister mysteries around the themes of the games, the world is going to end and up to you stand to stop it.
Dark fantasy tropes within Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim the originals game is very similar to witcher and dark souls type of darkness. The Examples dark fantasy tropes within the elder scrolls : 1. assassinations, 2. slavery, 3. murder, Theft 4. racism between men and elves. 5. War, 6. torture people 7. Necromancers and necrophilia 8. brooding atmosphere and gothic tones. 9. apocalyptic threats like Deadra invasion and dragons destroying the world, 10. Vampires and undead blocking the sun for total domination. 11. Beastfolk is very few in numbers and considers unworthy animals by humans and elves. 12. Pedophiles within Skyrim as an example, the vampire girl had a conversation with one of the NP Cs of her past the dark brotherhood quest. 13. Religious false prophets and gods. 14. Graves robbing and mutilation of corpses 15. Deadric Invasions 16. Dark brotherhood 17. Moral Ambiguity 18. Many more
Mature and violence The game has a mature rating for the themes, violence, and depictions of spike heads, bodies, and corpse. Decapitations and impalements of bodies within feudal Dark medieval society. The games Morrowind, oblivion, and Skyrim has a dark fantasy approach intended for adults, They are both of excellent examples of dark fantasies style.
Could someone add or link the elder scrolls Morrowind, oblivion, and Skyrim to the Dark fanstasy tv tropes section as I don't how to add the section page? Many thanks
Edited by Wolf93Is there dark fantasy at all, as a genre? It seems to me that the article describes a genre in a vacuum, while most actual examples given neither match the description, nor have a lot in common. How Cthulhu Mythos ended in the same genre with Game of Thrones? Where's "evil empire" part in either? How's "magic is evil" in Maleficent? Or in Witcher, where Geralt, Tris and Yennefer use it all the time?
Looks like the description of the genre is itself fictional and is not based on existing media.
And in reality, there seem to be at least two very different genres, both labelled "dark fantasy". One, more widespread, is "fantasy + horror" (Cthulhu Mythos, Pan's Labyrinth, various vampire fantasy). The other is more or less dystopian medieval fantasy about Dung Ages (Game of Thrones, Berserk, etc). Combination of the two is very rare, I can only think of Solomon Kane.
Edited by BeaumainWould the Silent Hill Series count as a Dark Fantasy?
Hide / Show RepliesNot really. It's Urban Fantasy at most, just a bit darker.
Take the "can be pretty much described as Standard Fantasy Setting meets Crapsack World" bit - sure, the world we see in Silent Hill appears to be fairly crapsack (unless the main characters are simply mentally ill), but it is in no way derived from a "standard fantasy setting" (if anything, they went the "let's take a zombie incident and make it more supernatural" route).
Below is what I've cut from the article. It's a couple of fine points, if in need of a bit of my polishing, but the problem is that it is not fantasy (unless some kind of Punk Punk or crossover genre). Whaddya think?
- Technology is seen as a result of unethical progress. Even when done to make certain things possible, the end result is far from perfect. Augmentations eat away at one's humanity, genetic research is done for the sake of war and profit and against the subject's will, and any advance in telecommunications opens new and fascinating ways to control people.
- Artificial sentiences and robots have nothing but contempt for their creators.
- Abusive Precursors are often the norm, and there is plenty of powers and Cargo Cults that will stop at nothing to learn more about the tech they left behind, all at the cost of innocent lives.
Well, technology is part of fantasy. It isn't a mainstay but it does have an effect on the fantasy setting as Technology allows the non magical person to use their nefarious ends.
Genetic research can be easily be explained with alchemy as characters like Lezard uses to breed homunculus for his own twisted purposes.
Artificial sentience can be replaced with golems or clockwork.
But yeah, it does potentially fit in the Punk Punk area.
I'd wait for one or two more Tropers, to hear more opinions. My idea is that Dark Fantasy is specifically fantasy, treated as a proper genre or subgenre, and I've never heard of such a genre as "dark SF". While I can agree that amounts of technology may find a way in, your examples would as well fit as a bullet point in the paragraph for magic.
"Atheism is the religion whose followers are easiest to troll"This guy was obviously a 40k fan.
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I am considering adding Mace: The Dark Age under the videogame category, but I'd like to hear what some of you would have to say in case if someone might object as that game not qualifying for one reason or another. Though here are some reasons I think that Mace: the Dark Age would qualify
Unless someone presents an objection by September 1, I will be adding Mace to this article.