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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
26th Nov, 2020 09:56:25 AM

First of all, spoiler warning for both those examples, please. Secondly, what you're writing is pretty incoherent.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
26th Nov, 2020 10:13:21 AM

Secondly, an edit war is when you add something and then, when somebody removes it for whatever reason, you put it back again.

"It doesn't mean that this is edit war because I'm not a bad person"

It is in fact an edit war, regardless of how good a person you are.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro
TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
26th Nov, 2020 10:13:55 AM

I think I can translate this based on their edit history. tidowo deleted an entry in My Little Pony: Equestria Girls without an edit reason. Tropers/Ferot_Dreadnaught restored it, only for tidowo to delete it once more, thus starting an Edit War.

Actually, there is already an ATT to discuss this very issue.

Edited by TantaMonty
Bubblepig (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
26th Nov, 2020 11:28:54 AM

Would you mind explaining why you delete this example from My Little Pony: Triva Page?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
26th Nov, 2020 11:32:21 AM

Looks like the edits were also brought up in the My Little Pony: Cleanup Is Magic thread, though there's been no reply there as of this post.

tidowo Since: Nov, 2018
26th Nov, 2020 11:35:31 AM

friends please we no longer want problems. let's forget this and continue our life. this is already quite annoying.

Edited by tidowo
Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
26th Nov, 2020 11:38:40 AM

You’re the one who made the topic...

EDIT: And you edit warred on two different pages. So I feel like we do have a problem here.

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raspberryred99 Since: Oct, 2012
26th Nov, 2020 11:39:07 AM

edit: somehow I didn't see someone already posted what I'd said. Oops.

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DarkHunter Since: Jan, 2001
26th Nov, 2020 02:09:52 PM

@tidowo: We don't want problems either, but just forgetting this and moving on will not solve the problem.

That's why we want to talk about it.

Excessive-Menace (Not-So-Newbie)
26th Nov, 2020 03:17:55 PM

@Tidowo

If you feel like it was wrong for Ferot to put back the example, you should've first contacted them by PM and ask them why they added it instead of deleting it immediately, as that constitutes as an edit war.

Edited by Excessive-Menace THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
raspberryred99 Since: Oct, 2012
26th Nov, 2020 03:33:50 PM

Another way to discuss an entry without edit warring is to take it to a forum thread, such as Is This An Example? if you aren't sure whether an entry on the page is legitimate.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
26th Nov, 2020 03:59:00 PM

It's still difficult to tell exactly why they deleted the examples, though.

"this was approved by the creator and the others, that's true Wordof God unlike Totally Spies and Equestria Girls, these weren't dictated more than ambiguous (the only thing that it's true is that these characters are teenagers)"

While it's a bit of a vague age range, it's still an age range given by somebody who worked on the movies (I believe it's an art director?). The DC Superhero Girls thing you linked actually isn't Word of God; it's All There in the Manual - official supplementary material that gives the information as opposed to confirmation straight from the creators' mouths.

Also, might I recommend using the "get help with English" thread to help with your English grammar?

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gomail Since: Feb, 2019
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
26th Nov, 2020 06:21:37 PM

gomail's wording and posting habits are redolent of tidowo's. If you're the same person, it'd be good to say so just to make things clear. If you're not one person, my mistake.

EDIT: As I write this, gomail changed their post, in which they defended tidowo's My Little Pony edits. Now, gomail's post is just a question mark.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro
crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
26th Nov, 2020 06:22:13 PM

You're not communicating clearly. Ishi Rudell is not a fan, they're a director for the series.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
tidowo Since: Nov, 2018
26th Nov, 2020 06:49:53 PM

actually i communicate clearly, ishi ruddell is the second director. He doesn't give us a logical explanation. So why is he giving "likes" to those who say they are 16 or whatever? that is, they left us ambiguous dude, enough, I don't want problems. this about ages is not officially on the hasbro list, as i mentioned.

Edited by tidowo
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
26th Nov, 2020 06:58:45 PM

Word of God doesn't need to be a "logical explanation", it's just what the creator says.

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raspberryred99 Since: Oct, 2012
26th Nov, 2020 07:00:01 PM

If the characters' age range is not on official Hasbro bios, but was confirmed by one of the directors, it's Word of God. Information doesn't have to be extremely precise to count as Word of God.

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Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
26th Nov, 2020 07:02:54 PM

tidowo, who is this "we" you keep referring to? You're only one person.

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tidowo Since: Nov, 2018
26th Nov, 2020 07:04:40 PM

i mean, all of you and me

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
26th Nov, 2020 07:04:50 PM

^^ I mean, they might mean gomail, who might be a friend of tidowo's. I did suggest they might be one person, but could be that they're just friends who trope together.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro
tidowo Since: Nov, 2018
26th Nov, 2020 07:06:27 PM

Michael Katsuro I'm talking about all of you came, don't take yourself too seriously. I have to erase all this what I post. it is already a problem. I don't know how to erase it. I'm already getting scared

Edited by tidowo
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
26th Nov, 2020 07:07:28 PM

Uh, okay.

Regardless of the edit warring issue, you might need to get some grammar help. It's hard to understand what you're trying to say.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
26th Nov, 2020 07:08:11 PM

"He doesn't give us a logical explanation."

What logic is necessary? There's nothing that contradicts them being 16-17 in the canon. Hell, I always assumed that was their general age, as most high school stories focus on characters around that age.

"this about ages is not officially on the hasbro list, as i mentioned."

Like I said, if the ages were available on an official Hasbro site, it would not be Word of God, but All There in the Manual.

If you can't accept polite constructive criticisms without...telling on your parents, then you probably shouldn't use this site, sorry. Also, your parents don't have any more power than you do. This is a wiki, not a school.

Edited by mightymewtron I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
raspberryred99 Since: Oct, 2012
26th Nov, 2020 07:16:15 PM

You can make your post private by clicking on the edit button and checking the checkbox below where you wrote the post.

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tidowo Since: Nov, 2018
26th Nov, 2020 07:24:47 PM

He agreed with those fans who told him they're 17-18 and others say they're 17-21 in the canon. because they don't want tem to get angry that these characters are minors. In high school there are not only teenagers, there are also older youth as well as in college, both adolescents and young adults living together. all of that happens in the real world.

Edited by tidowo
mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
26th Nov, 2020 07:26:27 PM

By "others" do you mean others on the franchise's creative team? That would explain things much better.

EDIT: ...but why would they be 17-21 in canon as opposed to 17-18? They're explicitly in high school. American high schoolers do not typically exceed 18 years of age. The ponies' ages in the main MLP canon are more ambiguous but that's a separate universe from Equestria Girls.

Edited by mightymewtron I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014
26th Nov, 2020 07:26:45 PM

I think this has gone far enough already. Can a mod come over here and lock this thread, please?

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
26th Nov, 2020 07:34:38 PM

^ Unless you want this discussion to go to Ferot's thread instead, I'm not sure that's a good idea. I want to know Tidowo's thoughts clearly so we can figure this out.

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
26th Nov, 2020 07:36:32 PM

Well, first of all: Tidowo, do you understand that by definition, it's always an edit war when you add something and then, when somebody deletes it, you add it again? Or when you delete something, then somebody re-adds it, and you delete it again?

tidowo Since: Nov, 2018
26th Nov, 2020 07:39:02 PM

what are you talking about? Michael Katsuro

Edited by tidowo
mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
26th Nov, 2020 07:40:39 PM

Edit War.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Excessive-Menace (Not-So-Newbie)
26th Nov, 2020 07:42:00 PM

@Tidowo

There's an entire page describing what an Edit War is, if you're unsure about it. Please give it a read to understand what it's about so this issue doesn't happen again.

Ninja'd by mewtron

Edited by Excessive-Menace THE GOLDEN AGE WILL RETURN AGAIN!
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
26th Nov, 2020 07:42:14 PM

You said you didn't edit war, so I'm explaining what an edit war is to make it clear that you did take part in one.

tidowo Since: Nov, 2018
26th Nov, 2020 07:46:06 PM

I don't want that, that's not what I do. I can not delete without putting a reason. I just correct them.

Edited by tidowo
crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
26th Nov, 2020 07:48:16 PM

No, adding a reason is irrelevant to an Edit War.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
26th Nov, 2020 07:48:59 PM

^^ I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

EDIT: Okay, the edited version of your post is a bit clearer.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro
tidowo Since: Nov, 2018
26th Nov, 2020 07:56:24 PM

just leave that alone. I can't take that anymore because none of that makes sense.

Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
26th Nov, 2020 07:56:54 PM

tidowo, you've participated in two Edit Wars on two separate pages with no explanation as to why you deleted them. You deleted the entry, and when it was readded with an edit reasion, you deleted it again. That is an Edit War, plain and simple. Not knowing that you did one doesn't exempt you from doing it. Putting edit reasons is one of the ways that these things can be cleared up, but now we're here.

The entries have been added back to the page. Please do not redelete them.

This query is going on for a little long, so I suggest either taking it to a Discussion page if you want to make your case further or letting the point go.

I too am for locking the thread.

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Kappaclystica Since: Jan, 2019
26th Nov, 2020 08:06:45 PM

I think everything that can be said about this situation has been. Lock the thread, please.

Berrenta MOD Since: Apr, 2015
26th Nov, 2020 09:13:39 PM

Very well. But first, the OP needs a talk in EB. That sheer lack of grammar here is not promising.

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