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Ferot_Dreadnaught
Since: Mar, 2015
5th Sep, 2020 03:23:29 PM
Take to "No Recent Examples Please" cleanup.
Franchise Killer, a related trope, now requires 5 years.
themayorofsimpleton
(Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
5th Sep, 2020 03:30:58 PM
Alright, I'm posting now.
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Alright I'm kind of new here (having made few edits and having not posted in the forums) and this is my first ATT query, so forgive me if this isn't the right place or I am not the right person to be asking this, or if I am using incorrect formatting.
I have been half-paying attention to some of the cleanup threads of problematic tropes and pages, both Short-Term and Long-Term. It was brought up [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15523303630A12937700&page=12#comment-283 here] that the Genre-Killer trope may be in need of a cleanup effort.
Looking at the trope right now, I am somewhat inclined to agree. While the description does say that a genre can be brought back from the dead, I agree that some of the examples of killed-off "genres" are a bit narrow, such as "live-action Dr. Seuss movies" or ""kid uses super-science and gadgets to deal with everyday life" cartoons," and I also agree that some examples don't define which work, if any, is the Killer, with examples including non-work related Killers such as quiz shows being killed off by a major scandal and not a specific failure, or Gangsta Rap being killed off by the murders of Tupac Shakur and The Notorious B.I.G.. (I have admittedly made a questionable and possibly invalid edit myself to the Music page describing how an album's success killed off the success of a completely different genre, so I apologize for that.)
The reason I bring this up here rather than in the thread where this was originally brought up is because upon further inspection, I believe the other Killer tropes to have their own issues. Creator Killer has examples (such as Milli Vanilli) describing careers destroyed by scandals rather than works (I believe if I am correct that Role-Ending Misdemeanor covers that) or some examples that outright mention a Career Resurrection. Franchise Killer, meanwhile, has problems with examples describing multiple Killers despite the trope description and Laconic stating that only one film can be a Killer, along with some other questionable examples in general (such as one directly quoted as describing the death of "the whole idea of the "peace, love and music" late-'60s outdoor rock festival that Monterey had pioneered and Woodstock made legendary," which isn't a franchise at all.)
Am I correct in assuming that these tropes may be in need of a cleanup? Or are there bigger issues with the tropes that would require more serious action?