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The "Specific references" section on Shout-Outs Index is for the various subtropes of Shout-Out. It only goes there if the shout-out has a page on this wiki.
I'm not sure Jumping the Shark fits either of those. Its name is a shout-out, but the action of Jumping the Shark isn't a shout-out.
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But Stock Shout-Outs also has a list of shout-outs with pages on this wiki. Alice Allusion is listed both on Stock Shout-Outs and in the "Specific references" section of Shout-Outs Index.
Skimming through the examples on Jumping the Shark, most if not all of them involve a reference to the actual phrase. I can't tell if the trope necessarily has to involve a reference to the phrase, but either way, referencing the phrase is a shout-out.
A straight example doesn't need to reference the term. The page is IUEO, so it only contains references to the trope/concept.
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^^ Stock Shout-Outs has a list of stock shout-outs with pages on this wiki. But that's not what it is. It indexes them because they're its subtropes, but it's not an index page like Shout-Outs Index is.
Edited by wingedcatgirl Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
^^ Are you implying that off-page examples don't have to be in-universe?
^ Okay, so the list on Stock Shout-Outs is not the purpose of the page, got it. But as long as it's there, in terms of "things that technically fit in this list", is there any difference between it and the Shout-Outs Index list?
But it's on the IUEO index...so wouldn't all Jumping the Shark examples be IUEO?
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^ I don't understand the question. In-Universe Examples Only means no listing out-of-universe examples anywhere, if that's what you're asking?
^^ To the best of my knowledge, I don't see a difference. I suppose the list on Stock Shout-Outs could be replaced with a link to the Shout-Outs Index, if we wanted to do that.
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^ Right, I'm saying that if it's only IUEO on the page itself, putting it on the index seems wrong. If it's IEUO across the whole wiki, having the page specify it's own usage also seems wrong.
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I don't think I'm aware of a case where IUEO has ever applied only to the on-page examples.
"The point where someone thinks the show started going downhill" isn't a shout-out, even if most people refer to this concept by analogy with that time the Fonz waterski'd over a shark.
Edited by wingedcatgirl Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
I've wondered about this myself. There is no obvious difference that I can see.
"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
Yeah, that's why I'm confused; the page makes it sound like the examples on the page must be IUEO, but nowhere else, which is what Crazy also claimed.
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The fact that it's not YMMV would seem to indicate that it's IUEO everywhere.
What is the difference between Stock Shout-Outs and the "Specific references" section on Shout-Outs Index? I am considering where to put Jumping the Shark.