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Ah, and I see the same editor has now made several entries in favor of Dimitri, indicating they have a specific agenda regarding the game's existing Broken Base and Base Breaking Characters, and also further violating the spirit of evenhandedness and jocularity the Memes page is supposed to have.
Personally I don't have a real hand in this (I'm a Golden Deer fan mostly), I'm just tired of the damn fandom wars and having already had to clean up a lot of Natter added because of people taking express sides against one or more of the characters.
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I've seen Marikusu's editing for Granblue Fantasy pages and they definitely trend towards specifically pushing their favorite characters and adding excessively long tangents about them to explain in intricate detail any aspect they have.
Looking at their edit history, they've also done edits in Three Houses' YMMV pages, which also might warrant a look.
Scrolling down the page and I'm seeing other threads also pointing out that overly snarky memes are not considered good faith additions to Memetic Mutation. Should I call them in so we can notify them of their editing etiquette issues? From some of their edits plus what you described there seems to be a problem with not following the "concise" part of Clear, Concise, Witty.
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Actually an astounding amount of Natter is happening on Fire Emblem: Three Houses as well, not just from Marikusu but the usual suspect(s) over at the Three Houses forum threads. The edits aren't always in bad faith, but said troper(s) concede to taking sides in the Edelgard/Dimitri debate, have engaged in edit wars with each other, and one of them has a known and consistent problem with making values judgments and treating fandom meta as objective, explicitly stated fact on multiple pages that I've had to clean up after before. I daresay we need more monitors on it and the other 3H pages in general.
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Yeah, it's not surprising that 3H would attract this much agenda pushing and while it's YMMV, this is a bit much.
The fact there are repeated edit wars over things like whether "fascist emperor Edelgard" is a thing or not probably means mods should be brought in to intervene.
So Chytus chimed in as agreeing with my criticisms of the new edits. I guess we have permission for a mod to come in and revert them then? If not I'll manually correct them myself.
I think you can go ahead and fix them. I don't care for the fandom warring note , but it's not in the humorous and fun spirit of Memetic Mutation.
Reposting my question here because I have the Discussion page isn't trafficked all that frequently enough to get a prompt response.
Marikusu recently made a bunch of additions
to Fire Emblem: Three Houses that I feel violate the nature of what constitutes a meme, because they seem to be expressly partisan polemics that just happen to be delivered in a cheeky/sarcastic way, rather than the kind innately self-perpetuating humor that usually constitutes a meme. Plus there isn't any meaning to them beyond the face value statements themselves. Also, memes are generally supposed to have broad appeal because of their self-perpetuating nature, hence being about a matter this controversial already limits their ability to appeal to a wide audience.
In the past we've already had to carry out major repair on the YMMV entry for Edelgard under Base-Breaking Character because it was getting too full of these polemics both for and against her, so needless to say anything regarding the grayness surrounding her morality is enough of a delicate matter that the additions are in violation of Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement. Not to mention there was a fair amount of discussion in the game thread that found the fascist label to be inaccurate (the Memes entry admits as much, but goes on to add it anyway with a handwave) and a case of Ron the Death Eater, as while she's certainly a lot of things that aren't exactly good, fascist expressly is not one of them.
Edit: I see that Marikusu nuked
a YMMV entry that explicitly explains how Fascist Edelgard came to become a Discredited Meme to the point a voice actor got involved; whether or not it still sees use in some remaining circles, I do think that treating it as a contemporary meme of worth after that incident definitely comes off as in bad taste, especially since as someone with friends who are fans of all three of the various house lords, the ones who express a liking for Edelgard are the ones who receive the brunt of harassment and personal attacks due to the way modern fandoms behave.
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