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SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
21st Nov, 2019 10:31:22 PM

I would think Anime and Manga.

StFan Since: Jan, 2001
22nd Nov, 2019 12:40:31 AM

^Yeah, I've seen them often placed there to avoid folder inflation. Considering there's rarely more than or two such examples, it's simpler.

AudioSpeaks2 (Greenhorn)
22nd Nov, 2023 07:25:22 PM

I see no reason why Manhua and Manhwa should go under Anime & Manga when they're clearly not either of those. I'd prefer they just get their own individual media category/folders instead.

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lapistier Since: Sep, 2015
22nd Nov, 2023 07:54:03 PM

I've seen "Asian Animation" folders used for animated media that isn't Japanese, but IIRC wasn't the distinction between anime/Western Animation and manga/comics purely a relic of the times?

Here it feels like the only options would be to create an entirely new media category (which seems overly specific to me the same way the Light Novel namespace was) or lump it with anime/manga.

I know the latter has iffy implications suggesting all Asian animation/comics are anime or manga, but I don't see anyone up for renaming the Anime and Manga namespaces entirely.

AudioSpeaks2 (Greenhorn)
22nd Nov, 2023 09:26:16 PM

^ In a perfect world Neon Genesis Evangelion and Spongebob Squarepants would go under the same "Animated Shows" category. American Comic Books, Manga, Manhwa, and Manhua would all just go under "Comic Books". But it's too much of a hassle to change it now.

So again, I'd suggest just putting Manhwa and Manhua in their own folder/category if you want to provide a trope example from said mediums, because it just doesn't make any sense to put Korean comics in the folder specifically for Japanese comics.

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lapistier Since: Sep, 2015
22nd Nov, 2023 09:51:40 PM

^ My bad, I seem to have misunderstood the difference between the folders each media goes into and the namespace itself. Sorting where stuff goes into folders is much less intensive than what I thought was being asked.

That said, since Manhua is Chinese and Manhwa is Korean, separating both of them from the Japanese Manga would basically result in three separate folders entirely dictated by their country of origin. Like I said, while I see some pages distinguish between anime and other non-Japanese Asian animation, it just seems way too specific to single out media by country. (Yeah I know anime and manga does it, Grandfather Clause and all, I don't think that means we should keep doing it though.)

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AudioSpeaks2 (Greenhorn)
22nd Nov, 2023 09:59:03 PM

^ I think I've seen an "Eastern Animation" folder in some trope lists. So maybe Manhwa and Manhua could just go under "Eastern Comics"

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Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
22nd Nov, 2023 11:00:45 PM

I've seen them in their own Manhwa and Manhua folders before. Wouldn't be opposed to that or something like Eastern Comics.

desdendelle (Ten years in the joint)
23rd Nov, 2023 01:45:37 AM

I don't think having folders with one or two examples in them is too bad, so having separate folders for Manhwa and Manhua sounds like a good idea to me.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
23rd Nov, 2023 01:57:36 AM

Maybe this needs to be agreed at Wiki Talk to update Media Categories FAQ?

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Serilly (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
23rd Nov, 2023 10:27:05 AM

I usually place them in their own, to be honest.

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AudioSpeaks2 (Greenhorn)
23rd Nov, 2023 02:30:18 PM

^^ Do we have a centralized thread for Media Categories?

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AudioSpeaks2 (Greenhorn)
16th Dec, 2023 03:56:38 PM

Summary.Anime And Manga has Manhwa and Manhua folders, when really those two folders should go under Summary.Comic Books.

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AudioSpeaks2 (Greenhorn)
16th Dec, 2023 05:46:31 PM

Alright, I made a General Media Categories discussion thread. This convos can continue there.

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Kuruni (Long Runner)
16th Dec, 2023 07:51:15 PM

Nevermind.

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