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Real life situation must wait for twenty to twenty five years from what i remember. Also, HIH might be misused.
Edit: The fact that there's little coverage shows ots not overshadowed.
Edited by WhirlRX
From Overshadowed by Controversy itself:
^^ You're thinking of Never Live It Down. No Recent Examples, Please! says Overshadowed by Controversy is six months.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
I went ahead and removed the example (and a reference to it in another example) using this ATT thread and the quoted section in the edit reason and sent a "Murky Example" notifier to the person who added it, detailing exactly why I removed it. Though it came out a bit wall of text-y because the notifiers' formatting is nonexistent.
Edited by sgamer82
So, what of the Harsher in Hindsight link that has been added, deleted, and readded by a third troper (so not really an edit war)? I'm not familiar with the controversy (and only vaguely familiar with the show), but judging from the Harsher in Hindsight's page description, it doesn't qualify as an example, but then again, I tend to limit my interaction with YMMV and avoid tropes like Harsher in Hindsight unless I think I have good reason to add them so I'm not 100% sure.
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I left it alone, myself. I tend to be biased against Harsher in Hindsight, and I'm not 100% clear if this counts as "this thing happened, then this other thing happened", which I regard as the most common form of misuse.
Edited by sgamer82
Unless the show has pedophilic elements in, i wouldn't considered it harsher.
The entire example is just "kids show has pedo creator". Not really something I'd consider HIH.
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In that case, I'm all for torching it. Though, given the edit reasons I'm seeing, probably make sure it's noted it's being removed for not being an example, not for any truthfulness or lack of to the claim.
Edited by sgamer82
I went ahead and nuked it, then, noting that despite any truthfulness (or lack thereof) it's not an example of HIH
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Since she was already long cut from the production for other reasons before this even came out I have my doubts it will result in OBC if Netflix distances themselves and the show from her enough.
I suppose the justification for it being Harsher in Hindsight was because it's not just "kids show has pedo creator". Rather, it's "kid's show with a main character who idolizes youth and thinks becoming an adult is awful has a pedophile creator."
Edited by M84 Disgusted, but not surprised
That's still a bit of a stretch...
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It is, which is why I'm not particularly interested in adding it back. I will however add that we generally shouldn't be removing YMMV entries, since they are after all YMMV.
...Yeah, this is why I generally don't add YMMV trope entries myself.
Disgusted, but not surprised
Thing is, even YMMV entries have criteria. The Harsher in Hindsight criteria requires that something be directly related to a moment in the work, not just tangentially, coincidentally, similar.
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Thing is, even YMMV entries have criteria. The Harsher in Hindsight criteria requires that something be directly related to a moment in the work, not just tangentially, coincidentally, similar.
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I guess the issue is that it's less a moment (as per the trope criteria) and more the entire premise of the show itself.
Disgusted, but not surprised
The thing that most people don't really understand about YMMV is that there should at least be a general consensus about it and it should fulfill the trope it's under. If it doesn't fulfill both of those then it shouldn't be listed.
Edited by mr_allen
A general consensus might be a bit much, considering the very nature of YMMV. But it should fill the second condition.
Disgusted, but not surprised
I'm saying general consensus because people are thinking that one person having an opinion is good enough. There are a lot of cleanup threads in the forum simply because that's not true.
Edit: sorry, posted in the wrong thread. Please disregard.
Edited by StFan
Is there a thread that deals with misused Overshadowed by Controversy entires? Twelve Forever is currently in the midst of a controversy regarding the creator, and there are already entries regarding it in YMMV.Twelve Forever and OvershadowedByControversy.Western Animation. The problem is the controversy is apparently still extremely fresh (as in, I'm not even sure it's a day old yet), so I think it's way too soon to call it overshadowed.