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ShinyCottonCandy (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
20th May, 2021 04:23:13 AM

Generally, policy is to use the most recent English-language edition if the work didn't originate in English. That said, for our purposes a slightly different release date by region doesn't count one or the other as more recent, so I don't think it matters.

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Piterpicher (Series 2)
20th May, 2021 04:39:04 AM

I think we can use the more recognisable US name in this specific case (as it seems to bring up more search results of people using it, though not sure as I'm on mobile ATM).

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WackyPancake Since: May, 2011
20th May, 2021 04:51:38 AM

Well, Google does cater results according to location or what version of the search engine you're using. Google USA will probably bring up more results for Topsy-Turvy, but Google UK or other European versions might bring up Universal Gravitation more.

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Hello83433 (Lucky 7)
20th May, 2021 05:18:36 AM

I did a Google Trends comparison and while initially it seems both terms get the same amount of attention, the international title is classified as a video game while the US title is not, and the international receives more attention in that comparison.

So I think the page should be listed as Yoshi's Universal Gravitation.

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Piterpicher (Series 2)
20th May, 2021 06:05:32 AM

I mean, I am European and I don't remember having heard of the game under the EU title before. I do prefer the US title, but that's just for personal reasons, so we can use the EU one.

Edited by Piterpicher Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods Of Incremental)
CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
20th May, 2021 06:16:31 AM

If it has got two English titles, we go with the most recent. If it is has two concurrent English titles, we default to the first come, first served, method of titling like we do with American and Commonwealth Spellings. That used to be the policy a few years ago, at least.

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bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
20th May, 2021 08:53:50 AM

For what little it's worth, the NA release was a bit under two months after the European release.

Complicating the matter is that it's Yoshi's Universal Gravitation in the original Japanese.

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Karxrida Since: May, 2012
20th May, 2021 10:40:47 AM

I personally think Topsy-Turvy is a more fitting name — Universal Gravitation is pretty formal considering the game's tone. Plus it's the more recent name anyway.

I wonder which name Nintendo prefers to use in English-speaking territories. Is it referenced in any of the Smash games?

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WackyPancake Since: May, 2011
20th May, 2021 10:51:38 AM

At least two characters from this game (Hongo and the Spirit Who Loves Surprises) make an appearance in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as (amusingly enough) Spirits. But I'm afraid this does not clear up anything, since they're billed as simply being from the "Yoshi series" instead of the specific game.

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Serac Since: Mar, 2016
20th May, 2021 02:32:53 PM

According to this page from the Super Smash Bros. wiki, the stickers in Brawl that come from this game are both labeled as being from Topsy-Turvy, even in English PAL versions of Brawl. So I think Topsy-Turvy is supposed to be the official name.

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WackyPancake Since: May, 2011
21st May, 2021 05:06:19 AM

I ultimately created the page under Yoshi's Universal Gravitation, per Hello83433's Google Trends analysis, The Other Wiki's precedent, and the apparent first-come-first-serve policy. Provincialism might have also played a small part.

As I said, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy is a redirect. If that was wrong or violates any policy, feel free to switc the titles around.

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Synchronicity MOD (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
21st May, 2021 08:35:25 AM

I think it's fine that way. The fact that the first English title is the same as the Japanese title gives it that extra push.

Afterword Since: May, 2017
21st May, 2021 09:01:36 AM

Shouldn't it be Yoshi's Tousy-Turvy, not Yoshi Topsy-Turvy? Or can both exist as redirects?

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
21st May, 2021 09:08:21 AM

No, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy is the right title. You can tell because Topsy-Turvy is an adjective.

bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
21st May, 2021 10:11:08 AM

I have the NA game, and it is indeed Yoshi Topsy-Turvy.

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