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#4826: Oct 31st 2010 at 4:35:44 PM

Yeah, Reisen II seems to mainly be in the story to follow Toyohime and occasionally go "really? That's awesome!"

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#4827: Oct 31st 2010 at 4:36:54 PM

Its really annoying in her chapter of CiLR. Really annoying.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#4828: Nov 1st 2010 at 3:51:22 AM

... Well that came as it had to.

Anyone wanna keep discussing these, or move on to a) the Fairies or b) pre-Windows?

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#4829: Nov 1st 2010 at 4:04:38 AM

I'd kind of like to do the three fairies for completeness's sake, even if there isn't much to say about them.

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#4830: Nov 1st 2010 at 9:54:39 PM

I think I remember reading somewhere that the Watatsukis are meant to be unlikeable, and have shades of Parody Sue: Yorihime is an answer to those who would have Reimu train seriously to build up even more power, while Toyohime shows how one should look beyond Moe. I guess ZUN was successful?

I like Reisen II's old picture, the one with the "(frightened whimper)" look on her face. Is the Lunar Army made up of conscripts? Because they seem to have a problem with desertion. What would Tewi do with all those lunar rabbits, I wonder...

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#4831: Nov 1st 2010 at 10:20:39 PM

I think any army would have a problem with desertion if they had to deal with GENERAL NEIL MOTHERFUCKING ARMSTRONG.

On a less silly note, maybe it's because bunnies just don't make very good soldiers? They are herbivores who survive by fleeing, after all.

(That really wasn't much less silly at all, was it?)

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#4832: Nov 1st 2010 at 10:49:22 PM

As near as I can tell, the rabbits aren't really part of the army, just the Watatsuki sister's side project of sorts.

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#4833: Nov 2nd 2010 at 12:05:27 AM

On a less silly note, maybe it's because bunnies just don't make very good soldiers? They are herbivores who survive by fleeing, after all.

You've never read Watership Down, have you?

I was thinking about adding The Knights Who Say "Squee!" to Yorihime's character entry regarding her attitude towards Eirin, and I'm Taking Her Home With Me! to Toyohime's to mention that rabbit she kept trying to steal.

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#4834: Nov 2nd 2010 at 12:10:49 AM

I was interested by Yorihime's fight with Sakuya, mainly because it revealed that Sakuya can't actually teleport, only stop time, move, and restart time.

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#4835: Nov 2nd 2010 at 12:15:56 AM

You've never read Watership Down, have you?

Long ago. But even there, isn't the emphasis on escaping by being quicker and smarter than your foes?

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#4836: Nov 2nd 2010 at 12:26:31 AM

I like Reisen II's old picture, the one with the "(frightened whimper)" look on her face.

Ah yeah, I wanted to return it to that one. Can't say I like the current picture.

In fact, I kinda want to make a new thread for discussing image changes on that page, because there just seem to be too many changes made totally willy-nilly.

I think I remember reading somewhere that the Watatsukis are meant to be unlikeable, and have shades of Parody Sue: Yorihime is an answer to those who would have Reimu train seriously to build up even more power, while Toyohime shows how one should look beyond Moe. I guess ZUN was successful?

Hrm, an unlikable character is still an unlikable character, and if parody is too subtle... yeah. As I said, they work very nicely in a comedic setting, but outside of that, I can't blame people for missing the joke if there was one.

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#4837: Nov 2nd 2010 at 2:55:24 AM

At least Lunatic Blue as remixed by =NeutraL= and Iron Attack are great.

I like Yorihime, but admittedly for the reason most others hate her. I just liked her shredding Reimu's, etc., Plot Armor at will. And not only a sword user, but one who can call on a limitless pantheon of shinto gods? Badass. I mostly agree with Hylarn's analysis and really have nothing to add, though. Except to say I believe their prejudice is somewhat misunderstood by some.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#4838: Nov 2nd 2010 at 5:53:15 AM

I dunno. Do they really have much of a choice but to be prejudiced? They were probably educated to think little of earth-dwellers, and didn't encounter enough humans (except the "warring" kind) to change their opinion.

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#4839: Nov 2nd 2010 at 6:15:14 AM

Hm, we keep doing all the characters I forget about.

One quick question; if Reisen and Reisen II were to meet, what do you think they would do?

Hell, I need to read the Touhou manga, I want to see why everyone hates the moonbitches.

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#4840: Nov 2nd 2010 at 7:24:38 AM

I've only read Silent Sinner (wasn't aware the sisters appeared in anything else official), but when I did, I didn't think much of the Lunarians, even with Yorihime essentially curb-stomping the cast. In fact, the only one that bugged me was Toyohime, due to her being almost unnecessarily racist and having a really overpowered fan (I don't know why that bothers me more than all the other characters in Gensokyo who are essentially overpowered though). And in a world where everyone is cute, her cuteness doesn't override that just bugs me.

That said, the idea that ZUN may have intended them to be Parody Sues makes some sort of sense. Reminds me of Xion's interpretation. Also, despite what I said, I can see why the fandom hates them, but I don't think the sisters deserve as much hate as they seem to be getting  *

. It's not like they are the first jerks to show up in Touhou either.

edited 2nd Nov '10 7:25:18 AM by Customer

SuddenFrost Since: Sep, 2009
#4841: Nov 2nd 2010 at 12:02:42 PM

In fact, I kinda want to make a new thread for discussing image changes on that page, because there just seem to be too many changes made totally willy-nilly.

You mean, on the Discussion page for Characters/Touhou? What bothers me is that too many of the new pictures are by that... one artist whose name I can't look up right now because Danbooru is down today.

One quick question; if Reisen and Reisen II were to meet, what do you think they would do?

Reisen II lands on Reisen's head feet-first and then Yorihime subjects both of them to Training from Hell. It already happened in Inaba of the Moon and Inaba of the Earth.

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#4842: Nov 2nd 2010 at 12:50:21 PM

Reisen Attack of the Clones even decides that Reisen is her eternal rival for the Moonbrincesses' attention but eventually gets filled with rabbit solidarity for her.

Reisen: The Original seems to view Nishiki Reisen as just another idiot or annoyance destined to make her life difficult.

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#4843: Nov 2nd 2010 at 12:53:54 PM

Misery loves company; now they can complain to each other how badly their masters treat them.

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#4844: Nov 2nd 2010 at 6:21:01 PM

Reminds me of Xion's interpretation.

I admit, I did a double-take.

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#4845: Nov 2nd 2010 at 7:56:35 PM

What bothers me is that too many of the new pictures are by that... one artist whose name I can't look up right now because Danbooru is down today.

OK, it's back up. Michii Yuuki is who I was thinking of.

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#4846: Nov 3rd 2010 at 8:52:17 PM

Probably time to move on now.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#4847: Nov 4th 2010 at 1:40:15 AM

Sorry, the middle of the weak is always terribly busy for me. I'll have time this evening.

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#4848: Nov 4th 2010 at 2:50:54 PM

The middle of the weak is weak!

Also, Faw is busy consuming Homestuck. And getting consumed by Homestuck.

edited 4th Nov '10 2:51:49 PM by XionGaTaosenai

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#4849: Nov 4th 2010 at 2:54:14 PM

If you stare long enough into the Comic, so too does the comic ogle disconcertingly into you.

edited 4th Nov '10 2:54:22 PM by Enlong

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#4850: Nov 4th 2010 at 5:00:11 PM

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edited 4th Nov '10 5:00:42 PM by Fawriel


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