Devil May Cry

Said demon Big Bad is supposed to be God of all evils or some shit. I've seen final boss fight itself, I would love to see that boss fight get remade be escalated to something like Asura's Wrath

I don't know if people actually prefer Mundus over Arkham in either terms of boss fights or character.

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*BA-DUM-TISS*

Whatever became of that Netflix anime version of Devil May Cry? Just finished Castlevania and a DMC version of that would be excellent.

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It's been almost a exactly a year since it was announced, but that was literally just "Hey, we got the rights!" so it makes sense that we haven't heard anything yet since they don't show footage until the whole thing is basically complete. Do expect it soon (TM) though.

Edited by ShirowShirow on May 16th 2020 at 8:47:38 AM

The latest game however revealed that Mundus was merely the previous demon who managed to eat the demon tree’s fruit when it appeared before.

Disgusted, but not surprised

I don’t think he was ever a god, even if he thought of himself as one. Satanic Archetype, sure, but he didn’t exist for that reason - he just happened to be the one running the place.

It should also be noted that after Urizen eats the Qliphoth fruit, he's stronger than Mundus was. The power boost from the fruit is why Vergil has a Sin Devil Trigger after V merges back with Urizen to become Vergil again.

Edited by M84 on May 16th 2020 at 10:39:02 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

Sparda was stronger than Mundus anyway and Dante is arguably as strong as his dad as well as Nero.

Honestly, I'd argue Vergil's biggest problem is not he's weaker than his brother but that he's a predictable fighter.

But he'd never admit this to himself.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 17th 2020 at 9:24:06 AM

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I think you meant Vergil.

Anyway, at the end of DMC 1 Dante hadn't yet equaled Sparda. He was only able to beat a recently released Mundus (thus not quite at top strength) by piggybacking on the Sparda's power. And even then he wasn't able to quite beat him and needed Trish at the end to send him back to hell.

But by the end of DMC 5, it's clear that Dante has surpassed Sparda. Which makes sense, considering his Sin Devil Trigger was born from fusing with the Sparda.

As for Vergil's strength...it's clear that the brothers are equal in strength. The difference is motivation. At the end of the day, Dante's able to win when it really counts because he's more motivated to win. Vergil otoh can usually come out on top when Dante isn't quite taking things seriously. only to lose decisively when Dante stops being lazy.

Dante even spells out the problem for Vergil in V.

Urizen: How... How are you so powerful?! You never lost anything!
Dante: It's not about loss... Strength is a choice! Fighting like hell to protect what matters! You threw away everything you ever had! No wonder you have no true power!
Urizen: Danteeeeee!

Edited by M84 on May 16th 2020 at 11:05:31 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

It's been ages, and I wish we didn't get rid off our PS 2.

I... somewhat like Devil May Cry 2 even tho it's seen as the weakest, alongside the Dm C thing. It needs to be fixed for sure but it was somewhat fun.

If I could go back to Devil May Cry 3, I'd try to do my best this time around. I was bullheaded as a 13 year old back then who didn't understand the true depth, intricacy of the gameplay system and died too many times. Cerberus proved awful for me.

With the rise of youtube videos and expert walkthroughs, this won't be a problem once I get to rhythm. My personal issue is my reaction times. I can fumble things and I can react/realize some things too late.

Also, I missed the great Doom convo last page, shame. Speaking of Doom, imagine how Doom Slayer would play out if he was a guest character in Devil May Cry V. Dante fights with grace but Doom Slayer is raw brute force ripping & tearing. He really has a sword this time around, but he does let his fists and chainsaw speak very often! Ripping & Tearing in third person would be glorious (glory kills heheh).

I actually liked DMC 2, but even when I first bought it I could admit it wasn't as good as DMC 1.

And DMC 3 blew both of them out of the water.

Edited by M84 on May 16th 2020 at 11:08:55 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

DMC 3 is awesome, which is why one day I'd want to get back to it and see how well I'd do. I'm not the same impatient 13 year old Sore Loser anymore. I won't forget howling whenever I'd lose so badly...

The Last of Us 2, featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series◊

That would be a very different franchise. For the better, of course.

-Silver Bullet plays-

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Sorry, Just knowing what thats an edit of still makes me lol. And not because its funny, but because of how embarrassing it is for Naughty Dog....

Watch Symphogear

I wonder if those leaks really are bad as it sounds?

It makes me question the decision overall, but I never touch the Last of Us

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If the DMC anime really is going to be similar to Castlevania than those guys really didn't touch DMC that much.

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Forgot about that, thanks for the reminder

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Why shouldn't I believe Mundus isn't on the scale of the gods? He's treated as such

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It’s not like there’s that much story in DMC.

Just have Dante stylishly demonslaying with some sweet platitudes about the heart of humanity & your fucking Golden.

As long as it has all of those elements are in, it’s a DMC story as much as any.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

I'm assuming it will have a different writer, although Warren Ellis going to town on the series cosmology would be interesting at least.

It is hard to screw up a DMC story IMHO. It's very character-driven, and the characters are all larger than life.

Didn't stop 1st anime.

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That's exactly why it shouldn't be like Castlevania.

I mean it will most likely be like Castlevania in the sense that it will be a fantasy show with a lot of action & black comedy.

Its being made by the same studio, of course there's gonna be aesthetic similarities unless the staff is completely different.

When people say "Its gonna be like Castlevania" its either a compliment or a logical statement as a result of being handled by the same people.

Edited by slimcoder on May 17th 2020 at 3:30:14 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Would DMC 5 qualify as having a full demon antagonist? Yes Vergil is the final boss but Urizen is the villain for most of the game.

Urizen however is merely part of Vergil.

Disgusted, but not surprised

@agent-trunks

I think I was more just taken off guard by Arkham. When I went to play DMC 3, all I knew about it was the Vergil stuff, because that's all anyone seems to care about.

So I was pleasantly surprised when I ended up finding Arkham as entertaining as I did. Someone on youtube pointed out, he's a good secondary antagonist. He's not good enough to carry an entire game, but as a digression from the Sibling Rivalry stuff and as Lady's personal villain, he works really well.

The scene where his plan comes together is probably my favourite part of the game. He just rumbles everyone, and him flipping back and forth between Jester and Arkham looks badass.

I'll be honest, to this day I don't think I get Vergil. I find him distinctly okay. Even after playing DMC 5 as well.

Edited by GNinja on May 17th 2020 at 3:25:16 PM

Kaze ni Nare!

The problem of DMC 2 is that there's no real story, humor, characterization, and the setting was boring.

DMC doesn't actually have to be GOOD but it should never be BLAND.

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I've grown to dislike his character more and more with time. First time I saw him, yeah, holy crap, he's Dante but cooler! Now?

• He barely appears in the first game, lacks any of Dante's charm and wisecracks, and even his chance at redemption as V gets thrown away because crawlin in my skin these wounds they will not heaaaaal - so at no point has the franchise endeared me to him outside of his gameplay being a fun alternative to Dante's
• I used to think the "superhuman sword master" thing was badass but everything Vergil did with a sword looked a lot cooler to me when Dante adds guns to it. Dante is having fun when he's fighting so all of the stylish moves he performs are fun to watch. This series is all about hamming it up, so having The Comically Serious Vergil feels out of place. When he's fighting he's not having fun he's showing off to an absurd degree. He works as a villain, a foil, but that's it.
  • I can see why they gave V talking animal companions in 5. He's never going to have the sort of exchanges that Nero and Dante do with the bosses.
• His relation to Nero boils down to a half-assed rehash of 4's levels, and a few small scenes that establish a vague connection between him and Nero's future womb
• Vergil is pretty much Sesshomaru from Inuyasha, but with none of the redeeming qualities.

There's something to be said for polar opposites - Naruto and Sasuke, Sonic and Shadow, or Goku and Vegeta - but Nero and Dante play off of each other better than Vergil does.

And to be honest - his D'mc counterpart's goals and personality were more interesting.

Edited by Soble on May 17th 2020 at 4:44:16 AM

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