Character Crushes and Other Depravity

zinfandel: "We'd like to believe such a personality exists in real (and beautiful) people."

Are you insinuating that they don't? =o

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I wouldn't think so, since Shiek is just Zelda pretending to be a male Shiekah.

edited Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:53:15 by Matrix

Query; is PSL note-worthy if the desired character is not particularly attractive, strange to be desired, or is it a catch-all for every fictional you've lusted?

http://www.drunkduck.com/Acrobat/index.php?p=498260 Just keep going until Jan 05,2009. My eyes are smoldering...

An useless name, a forsaken connection.

I guess I am... fictional personalities are usually streamlined, made consistent. A real personality has all kinds of frustrating incongruities.

Think of it this way, the personality of someone on your first date with them is basically fictional. You move in together, get married or something like that, you see the non-fiction parts.

Hmm, I wouldn't look at it like that. No personality is "inconsistent", really. Even if a person's behaviour changes a lot, that probably just makes them a moody person, which is also a consistent trait. There are probably cases of people who change their mind a lot, but that should be only temporary.

Of course, most fictional characters probably are simple and streamlined, since most fictional characters have characterizations that aren't complex beyond 5 times of text, and all characters are dependent on their writer's ability to convey them. But if a character is well-written, and the writer conveys them well - they still don't visibly have anything close to all the dimensions that a real person has, but that's natural since you only see these characters for a limited time, and usually from a limited perspective.

What I mean to say is that any fictional character, much like any person you don't know well yet, is "incomplete" in their characterization. With real people, you can try to get to know them better. With fictional characters, after you've seen all the stories they are in, you just have to assume that the writer did the best possible job portraying them and fill in the gaps. That's where Alternate Character Interpretation comes from. If you only have limited knowledge of a character, but you treat them as a real person, you have to try to figure out what they must be like if they acted the way they did in a certain situation. Just like what you do with a real person, really. You have to take their word regarding what they say about themselves, the person might not understand him- or herself perfectly, either, and in the end, you automatically form your own interpretation of who this person is. My image of myself is different than the image my mother has of me, or anyone else who's ever dealt with me. And any fictional character I create, will face the same treatment.

Iiiiii guess the point I'm trying to make is that, if you decide to treat a fictional personality like a real personality, they are pretty much the same except that you usually can't interact with the fictional one to find out more about them, and that a real person probably can't be just a victim or result of bad writing or different authors.

So a person is made consistently moody by inconsistently changing their moods? I think "moody" is more a classification rather than a marker of consistency per se.

I agree with zinfandel. Some personalities are incongruous, and their jigsaws have messy edges or are missing pieces. These aren't bad qualities necessarily. I'd call them character flaws. Those are supposed to be endearing if they're not annoying or tragic.

I wouldn't say fictional. I'd say superficial. I mean, unless it's a wacky romance comedy, then yes, there's some fiction there to increase the hilarity.

Do I harbor any PSLs that go beyond passing? I'd have to think on that...

edited Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:11:32 by Zephid

I wrote about a fish turning into the moon.

"Query; is PSL note-worthy if the desired character is not particularly attractive, strange to be desired, or is it a catch-all for every fictional you've lusted?

http://www.drunkduck.com/Acrobat/index.php?p=498260 Just keep going until Jan 05,2009. My eyes are smoldering..."

What do you mean by noteworthy? It definitely counts as PSL, dunno if it counts as "noteworthy PSL".

And if you're referring to the first character I see when I click that link, she's not that bad looking either.

edited Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:26:43 by GlennMagusHarvey

http://www.drunkduck.com/Acrobat/index.php?p=498260

No, no, no... Sorry. I didn't make myself clear. What I meant was, read the comments from that to January 05, 2009. THAT's a guy who either has PSL, or just wants to see what he can get away with.

Oh, and for me, it's Sue Richards, Talia, Lois Lane, and most of all, Valeria (Soul Calibur III). I like lots of things.

An useless name, a forsaken connection.

The way I was thinking about it, even a real person's personality is "made-up" insofar as even the person themselves can't explain why they think what they think and do what they do. And what I meant by "inconsistent" was any behavior that destroys the fiction.

Even the most fully-fleshed characters in Shakespeare don't show us enough of themselves to be "real", and they seem all the more real for it. That's kinda the art in it, I guess. An actor wouldn't taint Hamlet's personality any sooner than they'd let loose a thunderous fart on stage.

Sorry, sometimes I don't know what I'm saying until someone misunderstands me.

Nah, they're still fictions to me. Everyone's trying to tell you a story, ya know?

edited Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:29:24 by zinfandel

Aah, I see now. That makes sense.

So they're fictional because they're without [known] cause?

I wrote about a fish turning into the moon.

Quoth tinroof:

Comicbook Ilsa, or Movie Ilsa?

I didn't write any of that.

Movie Ilsa. Haven't gotten around to the comics yet.

Needs moar Pyramid Head.

Okay, I admit to a full count of PSL for MMZ's Leviathan. But in a "since she's a robot, nothing will happen" sort of way. And maybe it's also easier since I don't see her as someone so sweet or cute that I'd be attracted to in a non-sexual way, ironically.

edited Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:53:22 by GlennMagusHarvey

Oh! Also, Jordan Cochrane, Real Genius.

I recently discovered Shortpacked. Ethan/Thad OTP. Also Mike is awesome.

...Also, for some reason I'd really like to kiss the guy who makes the comic.

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I have a thing for Raven's(teen titan's) lips. Just that dark upper, light lower thing is new and exciting to me. On a related note, I also like that glossy lower lip thing, but I don't have a specific example of it.

I've always liked that one lock out of place Rukia(Bleach) has going on. However, I'm not sure about the overall shape of her hair. Hair's supposed to "flow" and "catch the light," isn't it?

I've had a thing for Kan'u Unchou's(Ikkitousen) abs ever since I saw an inner cover with her stomach sloping down into a windblown skirt.

Luvia Bloodmire is my favorite girl who no one's ever heard of. Just all of her, the hair, the bloodstains, the music, the home-made mutants. And that voice "Hurry, hurry... hurry..." You guys don't know what you're missing...

This picture◊ of Rukia I found somewhere on the internet literally made my jaw drop. (Yes, it's completely clean.)

edited Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:55:45 by Rogue 7

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I often find it disturbing how much PSL I have towards psychopathic evil bitches.

Because you know Azula is like an angry fucking badger in the sack.

A sexy badger.

I have PSL towards two teachers at the uni, both young guys. One of them is an assistant to the English department, has a spiffy goatee, tattoos and speaks with a thick Scottish accent. The other is a computers guy who has probably the most well built body I've ever seen on a bona fide nerd.

Gee, I hope no-one I know reads this, haha.

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Pwnt.

But does that really count as PSL? That's kinda real-life.

edited Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:26:16 by GlennMagusHarvey

@Rogue: That's by an artist on deviantArt, and he does a bunch of other stuff like that — realistic anime characters. See here.

Feedback Of Heteronormative Gender Stereotypes in Anime

Only loosely related, but I never understood a lot of the Even the Guys Want Him. From Big Boss to Johnny Depp, I just couldn't figure it out. Hell, I think Jon Polito◊ is more handsome than Johnny Depp.

Then I realized that it's not about being handsome, it's about something more indefinably sexual. The fact that I find Jon Polito stylish doesn't have anything to do with the kind of attraction people have to Mr. Depp or Big Boss. I'd like to dress like him, not have sex with him.

Also, I guess I'm just straight.

Mathematics Is A Language.

@AOD- hoo-ee, thanks for that. I had a few of that guy's pictures before, but now I've got plenty more. Truly awesome work, that.

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