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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#17926: Feb 9th 2019 at 2:16:06 PM

Isn't Meltan technically a Mythical Pokemon? Those have been following Ash around for a long time!

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#17927: Feb 9th 2019 at 3:58:14 PM

I'm guessing someone will "catch" it informally, without a Poke ball, and it'll likely be gone by the end of the episode.

DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#17928: Feb 10th 2019 at 9:12:25 AM

Lesson: Don't trust Bulbapedia's "clarifications": Serebii gives us straight dope! (emphasis added)

*picture shows Torracat and Stoutland effectively hugging.*

This episode features Ash, Mallow, Lillie & Gladion getting caught in Tapu Fini's mist, a mist that allows for you to see people who have long since passed.

Meaning that the answer to Question #2 in my prior post is "they are still alive".

But now, my question is: "Did the Aether kids see their dad?"

edited to pothole an appropriate Trope

Edited by DonaldthePotholer on Feb 10th 2019 at 12:13:18 PM

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#17929: Feb 10th 2019 at 1:34:58 PM

That mist lets you seed dead people? OF COURSE it just "disappeared!" :P

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Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#17930: Feb 10th 2019 at 5:23:11 PM

Well at least Bulbapedia has no excuse to dance around Stoutland anymore.

Took them two years to finally drop the Never Say "Die" stance for the old Stoutland.

precita Since: Jan, 2014
#17931: Feb 10th 2019 at 6:02:45 PM

bulbapedia has been poor for years now, all the good admins left around 2011/2012 because they either got too old or lost interest in the franchise. All the new younger people there now are in their late teens or early 20's, lol

DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#17932: Feb 18th 2019 at 6:04:02 PM

Hm... Soak was introduced in Gen 5... except that on going to the Fridge after seeing this, you realize that the Anime had that mechanic, if not the move itself, since Episode 5.

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#17933: Feb 19th 2019 at 6:51:22 AM

That Mao episode was surprising. SM softens up the game's plot yet they have episodes about Mao meeting her dead mother? Color me surprised.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#17935: Feb 19th 2019 at 8:12:19 AM

The anime is weird like that. *looks at Sabrina*

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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#17936: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:45:16 AM

[up] What's wrong with Sabrina?

Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#17937: Feb 19th 2019 at 11:28:47 AM

[up] Sabrina being a Creepy Child who turns people into dolls if they lose to her. Pure Nightmare Fuel despite the fact the original anime doesn’t adapt the darker storylines of the games. Note that game Sabrina is actually nice if a bit socially awkward.

Demetrios Our Favorite Tsundere in Red from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#17939: Feb 20th 2019 at 2:44:33 PM

[up][up] The original arc had enough dark episodes that Sabrina didn't feel weird. She's not even scary anyway.

SM, on the other hand, is so comedic and fluffy. They toned down Lusamine's character yet it's also the only arc to feature two explicitly deceased characters in a row.

precita Since: Jan, 2014
#17940: Feb 20th 2019 at 5:45:16 PM

The Mallow ep was really good, it's not just a great SM ep, but of the entire anime in general. The anime has never really touched on a main character losing their mother to cancer and then the last thing she said to her out of frustration of her Mom always being sick was, "I hate you" before she died and then regretting it as a 5 year old. And then Mallow reuniting with her and crying over it. For people who lost their parents or a loved one in real life, it's very touching.

Not usually something you get out of the Pokemon anime. A whole bunch of tags on twitter and tumblr you can see gifs/screens of it and peoples comments:

https://twitter.com/search?q=anipoke%20mallow&src=typd&lang=en

This type of ep felt like an early Kanto Season 1 story before the anime got too kid-centric, hell they could have used that plot to explain Misty's missing parents.

Also interesting that Mallow got such a touching episode, since she's generally one of the least focused on characters of the SM cast.

Edited by precita on Feb 20th 2019 at 5:46:36 AM

Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#17941: Feb 20th 2019 at 6:14:31 PM

[up][up] The point is that the entire Pokémon Anime does do dark and mature episodes when it does things on its own accord rather than mimicking whatever the games have.

Though in regards to the topic of death being more frequent in this series than usual, I have to wonder if Rica Matsumoto's dog Haro and the late Unshō Ishizuka may have affected the writing process...

Edited by Shadao on Feb 20th 2019 at 6:15:08 AM

Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#17942: Feb 21st 2019 at 9:30:01 AM

This was a pretty good episode, I just hope they don't consider that "fixing" Mallow and an excuse for her going back to being background fodder straight afterwards, especially since a lot of the cast this series have gotten a rather decent emotional episode as well (SM has been surprisingly decent for poignant stories considering it's comedic tone).

You don't have to shoot Mallow's mom to make me interested in her, you just have to make her do entertaining stuff as a character. Even just letting her do slapstick more often or giving her a more pronounced character flaw would be a plus.

Edited by Psi001 on Feb 21st 2019 at 5:33:42 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#17943: Feb 21st 2019 at 9:45:02 AM

This episode did like...way more for her character than literally anything prior lol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
precita Since: Jan, 2014
#17944: Feb 27th 2019 at 2:55:46 PM

Well with Sword/Shield announced the SM anime has roughly 30ish eps left. In good news a new title confirmed Guzma's first appearance in the anime...late but at least he appears at all. Hopefully we will get a Team Skull arc at the end of this arc.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17945: Feb 27th 2019 at 3:27:21 PM

Don't see much point in a Team Skull arc.

Not only are they so incompetent that even Team Rocket comes off as more capable, but they were always just a smoke screen for the Aether Foundation, who were nerfed to just Faba in the anime anyway.

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DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#17946: Feb 27th 2019 at 4:01:05 PM

wild mass guess Guzma is the one that defeats Ash.

Whether in Round 1, as I would prefer, or later.

EDIT: Anyway, now we can legitimately start on the retrospective comparisons between "Sun & Moon" and prior Anime series.

EDIT 2: I said "Legitimately".

Edited by DonaldthePotholer on Feb 27th 2019 at 7:03:27 AM

Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
#17947: Feb 28th 2019 at 1:28:23 AM

[up] Guzma is more likely to give Ash the actual chance of winning the League than being the one to defeat him. He is always second best, and the whole reason he created Team Skull is to compensate for the fact he'll never be a Trial Captain or a Kahuna.

Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#17948: Feb 28th 2019 at 1:22:36 PM

Truthfully none of the villains in SM were a remote threat. Even Mother Beast Lusamine was a jobber for the companions and Ash's miracle Z Move. It's not quite as glaring an issue in this series since it doesn't put as much emphasis on fighting bad guys (compared to previous series where seeing Team Rocket suffer their ten billionth one sided beating got really old), but they are nearly all anti climaxes who seldom even so much as land a single hit. It's ironic in Team Rocket's case since they actually bothered to level grind for a change, but still go down easily against the twerps that don't even battle or train.

Guzma I can see going either way, since as mentioned he is more threatening than his goons relatively, but he is still meant to be a rather pitiful character.

Edited by Psi001 on Feb 28th 2019 at 9:26:30 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#17949: Feb 28th 2019 at 1:58:19 PM

Yea, not really expecting much from Guzma. What made him interesting is how he wanted to defy Alola's traditions.

Since this series is lighter and more comical, I don't really expect that to change.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#17950: Feb 28th 2019 at 2:37:01 PM

bonus cutoff うわああああああ too


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