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Also abstain on the Valkyrie Drive and Doom Patrol Candidates and Morgan Fear.

Also I just saw Hobbs And Shaw PM me to discuss.

Edited by papyru30 on Aug 2nd 2019 at 9:08:47 AM

Also: No to Momoka, hoping that settles this one.

Morgan.

to Morgan to Darren.

Okay so since everyone, especially ACW, wants an effort post on Majd Addin from Assassin's Creed to put the debate to rest, I might as well be the one to do it.

Who Is He? What Has He Done?

Majd Addin is a member of the Templar Order who was appointed by Sultan Saladin to rule the city of Jerusalem in Saladin’s absence. This proves to be an horrible decision on Saladin’s part as Majd proves himself to be an utterly tyrannical excuse of a leader as he abuses his position to conduct daily execution on the masses of Jerusalem for no reason other than it makes Majd feel like a god.

These daily executions would cause the deaths of dozens of innocents, if not mores, with one woman about to be executed saying that the only "crime” that she was guilty of is not sleeping with Majd, while Majd would deliberately undo all of Saladin’s progress on Jerusalem all so Majd can further his control towards that people through fear and intimidation.

Conducting his most recent daily execution, Majd would become one of Altair’s targets and would assassinate Majd before he could execute his lattest batch of innocent. From there he would gleefully brag to Altair that he deliberately executed dozens of innocent people because it was fun and enjoyed being feared by his oppressed people before Altair stabs him in the neck, ending his reign of terror for good.

Freudian Excuse? Redeeming Qualities?

No backstory on Majd other than he was a scribe that was chosen by Saladin to rule Jerusalem in the latter’s absence. Also unlike his fellow cohorts he had no delusions that he was doing anything good nor had any intentions on doing so. He just a power-hungry sadist with zero redeeming features who enjoys oppressing people and executing innocents simply because it made him feel powerful.

Heinousness

Now the Assassins Creed heinous standard has evolved overtime but I think Majd can still passes the overall heinous standard, and he’s easily the most heinous villain in Altair’s era.

Majd has conducted numerous executions on a daily basis and when hearing the people converse about Majd they said that he has done this many times before accumulating a very high body count. He has no reason to do all this other than to fuel his sadistic god complex.

Final Verdict

I said my case so I’ll leave the rest to you guys to make a decide, and if Majd does not get the minimum votes required (five) then I’ll let the cut happen.

Well people have said that Majd has executed numerous people every day and we see one of them, Majd has established a patter.

Edited by G-Editor on Aug 2nd 2019 at 5:58:03 AM

Thanks for doing the EP G. Am I right in saying that we only see one batch of executions and the rest are discussed?

I’m sticking by my for Majd.

Keeping my yes for Majd Addin.

Wait, does thumbs up mean keep or cut? Either way, still voting keep.

I still vote cut. I think that people like Il Carnefice and The Embalmer do more nasty things with less resources.

While I'm at it I'm going to address the Ur-Example argument just so I can get it off of my chest. I consider it to be a flimsy and stupid argument, I very much disagree that a character who is out heinoused by later characters can still be up just because they came first. I urge people to vote based only on his qualities as a CM candidate and not based on the fact that he came first. If people think that he's heinous enough that's fine but I don't want him staying up just because he's from the first game. I don't want this to seem like I'm attacking anyone, I just want to say why I don't think that it's a good reason for a candidate to stay up.

I still say keep Majd.

I honestly just don't think enough of Mahj Addin's actions are on screen enough. The only thing the player actually sees is the single execution at his assassination.

to Morgan. to Darren. Switching to to Majd

Scar, Scar and Morgan

Darren and Addin

Abstain on Momoka.

I'm still a no on Majd. I think the later villains waaay outheinoused him like Il Carnefice or the Embalmer to the point it's not funny anymore. We cut Iron Masked Marauder or Tao Pai Pai because they got outheinoused in the future which is understandable. And if he ends up keeping, I won't lose my sleep on that. And I can understand people still see him as a keeper due to being the Ur-Example.

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Aug 2nd 2019 at 11:51:01 PM

To the Scars, Morgan... you know what, sure to Addin to. I'll be honest, while Addin may not be as bad as other candidates, it's worth noting that he has a bit of a limit considering the setting. Not peaceful mind you, but compared other candidates the setting he's in is a little more civilize and outright killing isn't something you'd probably get away in the Third Crusade. I mean you could, but definitely not like Ancient Greece or Egypt.

Morgan

Darren

Abstain on the AC guy

Addin. In same game he appeared Abu'l Nuqoud ordered massacre of all guests at his feast. I have feeling the main reason he was listed in first place is because he is only Templar who isn't WIE.

That strengthens my no vote with Majd Addin then. If people still keep him, I'm okay with it.

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Aug 4th 2019 at 2:05:46 AM

to Addin

And sad no to Darren

Edited by Kylotrope on Aug 3rd 2019 at 12:36:40 PM

Okay so there’s this one character that’s been eating at me for a while mainly due to the show that he’s in a the flack I might get for effort posting him, but since we got someone from Moral Orel approved I thought I give this guy a shot. From The Boondocks I give you Ed Wuncler I

Who Is He? What Has He Done?

Ed Wuncler is an overweight, rich person whose family founded the town of Woodcrest and lived in the area for over a century and the closest thing this show has to a Big Bad.

First making his major appearance in "The Itis" He exploits Robert's dream of opening a restaurant by giving him such a restaurant. He the has Robert hire illegal workers and makes the food unhealthy and fattening, knowing full well that would the restaurant's food was so addictive making the people become obese and ill. This would eventually turn the nearby park into a cesspool of crime, which is exactly what Ed fully intended since this will lowering the property value of the land where he buys the land for dirt cheap.

He appears once more in "The Block Is Hot" where he tricks Jazmine, a 10 year old girl who started a lemonade stand, into working in sweatshop conditions for him on the hollow promise that he'll give her a pony. He then takes all of Jazime's hard earn money while leaving Jazmine in a massive dept.

In the episode "Thank You for Not Snitching" Ed exploit the Fried Chicken epidemic by having had his grandson Ed III and Ed's friend Gin Rummy break into people's houses to hurt and kill people so his community would buy his expensive security system.

In the episode "Red Ball" its revealed he traumatized Huey Freeman into thinking that he crippled a girl in a kick ball game that Ed himself rigged so intentionally goading Huey into severely injuring said girl. He then proceeds to blackmail Huey into playing in the kick ball game against the Chinese by revealing he that he bet the entire town and its people’s freedom of to the Chinese. Huey reluctantly agrees, however the Chines had bribed the referee into letting their team win. Ed's response have the referee tortured and killed then replace him with another referring that benefit Ed's team, Uncle Ruckus. In the end Ed's team manages to win.

Now in is last major appearance "It's Goin' Down", reveals to Huey and super agent Jack Flowers that he was the mastermind behind the terrorist attack having his grandson and his friend Rummy set up and attempt detonate a bomb in a buildings attempting to kill a security guard, completely uncaring if he kills all the other people in the building, so that Ed can profit from the death. He also shows complete disregard for his own grandson’s actually goading Jack to kill him. When Huey and Jack foil this ploy and prepare to arrest Ed, he calls president Obama to tell Jack to stand down, escaping justice Scott free.

Freudian Excuse? Redeeming Qualities? Other Militating Factors?

No excuse. He’s just a rich Fat Bastard who commits anything unethical thing that he can think to suffice his greed if it. He might also act polite in public but it is just that, an act. He shows no concerns for the well being and lives anyone even his own family. Case in point, he tells Jack to shoot his own grandson dead when Jack was holding him hostage.

Now there’s also the setting where on wether his actions are Played for Laughs or not. My answer is that I think that his action are treated serious by everyone both in-and-out universe and he doesn’t have a sense of humor.

Heinousness

Even in a show that has its moments of Black Comedy I believe that Ed Wuncler does more than enough to make himself especially heinous even by the show’s standards. He deliberately got people sick with his food, has made Woodcrest a cesspool of crime twice, forces an innocent girl Jazmine to work at sweatshop conditions, while also having done this to many others children in third world countries, has his grandson terrorize, hurt, and even killed people countless of times, tricks a child into thinking he crippled a girl while also being the one goading him to injure her in the first place, and intended to detonate a bomb full of innocents just to get to one man.

The only other person who I can’t think of the matches Ed Wuncler I in terms of vileness is his son Ed Wuncler II. However while II doesn’t really have any confirmed body count, with it only implied that he has killed people, Ed Wuncler I has indeed murdered people, have a decent body count, and was explicitly trying to kill people in a building.

Final Verdict

I’m a little conflicted about wether he counts or not, but I do believe that he’s at least worth an effortpost. I’m leaving the decision for you guys to decide?

Edited by G-Editor on Aug 3rd 2019 at 9:16:05 AM

Remake Scar

Cosmos quote

Late Grimmel the Grisly

Edited by WretchedDog2 on Aug 3rd 2019 at 2:14:38 AM

Abstaining. I've only seen clips of Boondocks, but at it all seems over the top and comical. I don't know enough about the series to make a judgment call.

Edited by DelphineTheDelphox on Aug 3rd 2019 at 12:22:06 PM

I saw that Bill Cipher has three quotes. With that, I'd like to nominate a second quote for Judge Frollo.

Or, if the "Burn it" part is too vague, just the last two lines.

Abstaining on Wuncler I. Doesn't seem like Cerebus Syndrome effected the show. Again, feel like this show is still played largely for laughs.

Not feeling the Frollo quotes.

Edited by AustinDR on Aug 3rd 2019 at 1:09:47 AM