Castlevania General

It's probably for the best Henry didn't have a full story mode of his own.

Kinda makes you wonder what Grant actually did in the final battle of Dracula's Curse too.

Maybe was just trying to provide a distraction to keep Drac off the other three as much as possible?

Might explain why he suffers a serious case of Demoted to Extra. He doesn't even show up in the Netflix series.

I had the same thought.

One thing I wish the games had more of was Schizo Tech like the Tower of Science and the infamous Skeleton Motorcycles in the N64 games. Mainly because it really shows just how godlike Dracula is — he is able to transcend time itself to glimpse the future of humanity and technology.

The Netflix show suggests he's just that advanced technologically. He was powering Castlevania with electricity as early as the 1500s.

And I know that's a separate continuity but considering some of the other anachronisms (some of which would also only be explained by time travel, like certain art pieces from the 19th and 20th centuries), it's a ppssibility.

Though Castlevania being essentially a Tulpa created from Dracula's own mind, it shouldn't even really need electricity.

Castlevania: Grimoire of Souls Gets Its First English Trailer

...but...aren't there already videos of the english version online?

I've even been watching them on Youtube.

Another genealogy thought: Sypha presumably had at least one brother (probably also a mage), since the Belnades/Fernandez line continued on even after she married into the Belmonts.

Another possibility is that she and Trevor had children who decided to take up the Belnades name instead of the Belmont name. This may have been done to keep the Belnades name alive if Sypha was the Last of Her Kind. It's never really confirmed. It doesn't help that the only "official" Belnades we know of are Sypha and Yoko.

Edited by M84 on Oct 27th 2019 at 9:57:38 PM

We'd have three if they let the games be canon.

But that's how it goes. Speaking of, Wikipedia has some notes on the Nintendo 64 games and why they aren't part of the timeline.

To quote one part:

So it comes back to my earlier post about the games being meant to be side stories from the get go. That being said, it's odd for the first 3d Castlevania game for N64 to be a side story instead of a main story, so either IGA is snowballing us, or the guys making these games didn't think they should be part of the main stories themselves.

I don't see the point in handwringing about canon? Igarashi doesn't work at Konami anymore so his timeline isn't really any more valid than one you or I come up with.

One thing I've always appreciated in this series is that Dracula is never really presented as the most evil character in the series despite positioning himself as an embodiment of evil. In terms of actual personal evil he always falls short compared to human antagonists.

Actrise in particular from the N64 games is probably the most monstrous character in the series. How else can you describe someone who sacrificed 100 children including her own daughter just to stay young and get favor from Dracula?

Speaking of the N64 games...I also like how Soma Cruz and Malus contrast each other despite both being human reincarnations of Dracula. Soma was a "natural" reincarnation that happened years after Dracula's final death. Malus otoh was a reincarnation that was deliberate on the part of Dracula and his followers to incarnate at full strength with the use of the power they stole from Cornell. This, along with Malus' younger age, was probably why Malus embraced being Dracula after his time in Castlevania restored his memories. Though it's worth noting that Soma can also suffer the same fate as Malus.

Edited by M84 on Oct 27th 2019 at 10:34:31 PM

I'm intrigued by the fact that Leon, the patriarch, and Simon, the most famous, are the only Belmonts without obvious love interests. Sonia has Alucard, Trevor has Sypha, Juste has Lydie (though I suppose she could've ended up with Maxim as well), Christopher has an (unnamed?) wife who is mother to Soleil, and Richter has Annet.

Simon actually does have a wife, Selena, in the infamous Haunted Castle though.

So...it's possible when Carrie and Reinhardt first met him that he wasn't just pretending to be innocent. He really was at first, but then his memories returned in full, and unlike with Soma, he embraced what he was (perhaps due to the nature of his return in comparison to Soma).

It's an interesting thought.

Leon had a love interest (Sara) but...well...you know.

It presumably would have felt wrong to introduce another love interest in the same game.

Like I said, maybe his younger age was also a factor. Soma was already eighteen years old when he ended up in Castlevania. Malus was about eight. It probably also didn't help that Malus' return was more traumatizing, having been kidnapped and having his village destroyed.

That said, there's also the possibility that he was already Dracula even when you meet him in the Garden Maze. It's rather suspicious that a supposedly helpless child begging for help is able to outpace the horrors in the Garden Maze so easily. You also never see them actually attack him. Contrast that with Cornell's rescue of Henry from the Gardener — that's more of an actual Escort Mission. It's possible that Malus may very well have been trying to get you killed by the Gardener and the hounds.

Edited by M84 on Oct 27th 2019 at 10:56:51 PM

Christopher's wife is named Illyana, she showed up in the comics. Held her own as a hunter, too.

Hey, Hector got a love interest right after his first was burned at the stake. Man, Iga recycled the "Kill the dude's woman" plot five times in three games from SOTN to LOI to COD.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Oct 27th 2019 at 1:02:20 PM

Yeah. His ex best friend / mortal enemy's sister, who is physically identical to her former lover.

I'm sure Rosalee is glad to have died so that her random twin could just take her place.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Oct 27th 2019 at 11:03:26 AM

She's spinning in her shallow grave right next to Sara, Elisabetha, Lisa and Rinaldo's wife.

And then of course there's Jonathan, who ends his game in the presence of three gorgeous women, though whether he ended up with any of them in unknown.

And do we have a name for his mother?

Sara doesn't have a grave. She's too busy literally whipping the crap out of the asshole screwed her over.

The rest of them stand though.

That part of the game's plot made me throw up a bit in my mouth. Way too soon.

Even IGA seems to have gotten tired of this, given how it doesn't show up in Bloodstained. Unless you think the relationship between Miriam and Gebel was a romantic one in nature (it wasn't). Even then, it's at least a gender inverted example.

Edited by M84 on Oct 28th 2019 at 1:30:48 AM

So, is there no confirmed year for the events of Order of Ecclesia.

I notice it's just stated to take place in the 1800's with no exact year.

I wonder why that is?

It makes sense. The Order and Shanoa did vanish from history in-universe.