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If you're suspended, give What to Do If You Are Suspended a read, then post here to begin your appeal. We try to respond to appeals in order via batch posts every few days. If a moderator has responded to your appeal, you will receive a notification in your private messages, even if you're suspended from PMs.

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Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM

TheDragonDemands I am Jack's Smirking Revenge from Now Since: Oct, 2014
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#32926: Mar 27th 2024 at 5:17:18 PM

Yes. Any remaining issues?

twofacetoo Since: Mar, 2015
#32927: Mar 27th 2024 at 5:29:13 PM

Is it worth even asking for any of my permissions back? Or should I just not even bother at this point?

Gecko12 Since: Sep, 2022
#32928: Mar 28th 2024 at 10:11:46 AM

To be honest at this point I think I should wait before trying to edit pages again after getting an appeal cause I lost my editing ability again so I am very sorry and I promise not to interfere with other troopers trying to edit pages and leave them be in peace.

Gecko12 Since: Sep, 2022
#32929: Mar 28th 2024 at 10:14:48 AM

Wait have I been bounced? Please don't tell me I've been bounced.

FGonzalez Since: Oct, 2021
#32930: Mar 28th 2024 at 5:05:12 PM

Hi, I have gotten suspended recently and humbly I'd like to request to you to reconsider the ban, I promise to improve my grammar, I assure you that my only interest here is to help to improve tv tropes.

GreasyChicken Greasy_Chicken Since: Oct, 2023
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#32931: Mar 29th 2024 at 1:07:16 AM
Thumped: This post has been thumped with the mod stick. This means knock it off.
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#32932: Mar 29th 2024 at 1:10:31 AM
Thumped: This post has been thumped with the mod stick. This means knock it off.
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#32933: Mar 29th 2024 at 1:12:44 AM
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#32934: Mar 29th 2024 at 4:24:11 AM

i would like to edit again,I have learned my lesson, I promise I will not add images with out permission tongue

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#32935: Mar 29th 2024 at 7:09:52 AM

Sorry for the delay, everyone. By sheer bad luck, everyone on the mod team had something going on IRL.


~Rya [1]: Could you explain what edit warring is, what you did wrong, and what you'll do in instead if you are unsuspended and it comes up again?

If it helps, This is what you were suspended for, and the wiki policies are on Edit War.


~Kingslayer38 [2]: Splendid, we'll hold you to your word, and release your suspension! Happy tropin'
~Mr Darkman [3]: Before we release your suspension, can you tell us what you'll do instead of edit warring, and promise you will? Third chances are rare here.
~clemont107 [4]: This is correct. Unfortunately, nobody on the wiki is equipped to help you with this, and the forums just aren't a place for venting. As you've agreed to exercise self care and take a break instead of venting, your suspension is now released.
~TNO Enjoyer [5]: Do you understand what the issue was with the articles that first got you suspended? Some of my colleagues are also concerned about the capitalisation in your posts here (you might wish to try the Get Help With English thread).
~amateur55 [6]: You were suspended back in September for...denying genocide. I think it goes without saying, we take a dim view of that, and you're lucky you weren't just bounced. Have you got anything to say for yourself?
~Johnny Be Bad [7]: You're suspended from the forums (for your reaction after being thumped). You are correct this extends to the cutlist.
~Oreo Cookie 11 [8]: Heya, you were suspended after trying to re-add an image to Awesome.The Super Mario Bros Movie that was removed after a decision in an Image Picking thread. Can you tell us what you should have done instead?
~Reidling1234 [9][10]: Greetings, you are correct. Can you tell us the correct procedure for launching a new TLP to the wiki proper? You may find the answers on TLP Guidelines (which I'd suggest giving a read).

Also, please don't try to discuss edits you'd like to make here.


~R8ings Guy [11]: You are correct; you were suspended for rushing through multiple drafts while ignoring feedback. TLP runs on a long timescale, and drafts shouldn't be rushed (the 24 hours of notice is a minimum).

There have also been some worries raised about the quality of your grammar. Can you tell us what you will do to improve? The Get Help With English thread is available if the latter wasn't simply down to rushing your drafts.


~Arthur Eld [12]: That's the long and short of it. As you have agreed to be more civil, we can remove your suspension. If you end up here again, it's not certain that you'll get another chance.
~herofan2003 [13]: In addition to the ZCE (Zero-Context Example) that got you suspended, you kept trying to discuss your suspension in PMs instead of here. We'd rather you don't end up here again, but do you understand what to do if you are suspended now? If so, we can restore your PM privileges.

Separately, let's address your ZCE. Since you remember which page the offending edits were on, can you please write out the proper context for these entries on Cruella? Post them here.


~Greasy Chicken [14]: Alas, you'll be waiting a long time if you don't address the reasons for your suspension. Aside from the fact that you tried repeatedly to appeal via PM instead of here, you haven't given us any sign you understood the problem with your edits or how you can improve. Care to indulge us, instead of flexing your art skills?

Your spamming of messages here hasn't exactly helped your case, but as there was a backlog, we'll let it slide for now. Your last message was promising. Please elaborate.


~Sergeant Bane [15]: There's some activity in the trope misuse cleanup thread, which shows you know tropes. Good. Since you were suspended because of Zero-Context Example problems, can you tell us what is wrong with these additions you made?

Even better would be to also participate in a related thread, say, fixing zero-context examples, and identify pages with ZCE and how they can be fixed.


~The Dragon Demands [16]: Indentation was the only issue you've been suspended for. Can you show us what proper indentation looks like, before we remove your suspension?
~twofacetoo [17]: This depends. You were suspended for being extremely rude after being sent notifiers, as well as the grammatical issues that prompted them. Do you have anything to say about your behaviour before we continue?
~Gecko12 [18]: You haven't been bounced (don't worry, we don't usually immediately bounce for edit warring). It's good that you want to take your time. You were suspended for edit warring here. What should you have done instead?
~F Gonzalez [19]: You were also suspended for Zero Context Examples. Can you tell us what those are, and what you should do instead. I would recommend a visit to the Get Help With English thread to check your edits are up to par.

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#32936: Mar 29th 2024 at 7:39:17 AM

~Bisected 8, from now on I will only put a longer notice on drafts in the TLP while also trying to heed some feedback, though, to avoid causing many problems, I feel like the best course of action would be for me to make a new draft once a month and then try and see how I will react to the feedback that’s given to me in hopes of making it launchworthy. As for that grammer problem, I will start consulting with the Get Help With English section to see if I spelled a potential trope page correctly. So please, let me edit again.

MrDarkman from Common sense and moral land Since: Mar, 2012
#32937: Mar 29th 2024 at 8:25:10 AM

Like I had said, I was removing false information (information using a video that was edited to make it seem like something it wasn't) Wasn't trying to edit war. I didn't have issue with the trope the user was trying to place, just the use of source and wording of it because the source was fake.

However, since its been made clear by an admin that this site doesn't care about fake information, I can guarantee I won't be removing any if I see them. I'll just stick to small stuff and try to avoid edit conflicts if I decide to edit again.

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#32938: Mar 29th 2024 at 8:58:48 AM

[up][up] We'll discuss this and get back to you shortly.

[up] As Bertrand Russell said, "War doesn't determine who is right". The problem with edit warring isn't who's correct, it's that edits are going back and forth, and achieving nothing.

If someone is disputing a fact, then they need to take it to discussion, ATT, or a forum thread, and get a consensus from other editors. When that's cleared up, they can add it back in without the back and forth (either because the other editors came to a conclusion with them, or because now the other editor is clearly in the wrong and can be dealt with by a mod).

Edited by Bisected8 on Mar 29th 2024 at 4:57:33 PM

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#32940: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:13:49 AM

[up]So if the same situation comes up, what will you do?

Edited by Bisected8 on Mar 29th 2024 at 4:57:44 PM

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#32942: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:21:07 AM

[up]By...?

Edited by Bisected8 on Mar 29th 2024 at 4:57:53 PM

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MrDarkman from Common sense and moral land Since: Mar, 2012
#32943: Mar 29th 2024 at 9:22:26 AM

Not engaging in editwarring. Either through discussion or just not reverting an edit.

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#32944: Mar 29th 2024 at 10:14:37 AM

~R8ings Guy: Your suspension is released. Please work on your grammar and make sure you only concentrate on one TLP at a time for now to avoid winding up back here. Happy drafting!


~Mr Darkman: As you've made it clear you understand what not to do, we're releasing your suspension. Be good.

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GreasyChicken Greasy_Chicken Since: Oct, 2023
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#32945: Mar 29th 2024 at 10:17:20 AM

the reason I got suspended was for adding images without starting a discussion and making stub articles. And I know it was wrong.

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#32946: Mar 29th 2024 at 10:19:49 AM

from now on, when ever I want a page to have a nightmare fuel image, I will start a discussion.[tup]

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GreasyChicken Greasy_Chicken Since: Oct, 2023
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#32947: Mar 29th 2024 at 10:22:19 AM

I know, I can't do whatever I want on tv tropes

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#32948: Mar 29th 2024 at 10:22:45 AM

I will know respect the rules

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