What medium is Chuck E. Cheese supposed to be for this wiki?

Apologies if this is the wrong forum to ask it in, I couldn't find other examples of this problem for reference. I just discovered that there is a page for Chuck E. Cheese — a pizza restaurant/arcade chain with themed shows and content — and I noticed it's listed on the Creator/ namespace, and I'm not sure how accurate that should be.

I think there is enough content regarding the characters, the music, the animatronic shows, etc. to warrant a page (though maybe some real-life entries like Diner Brawl should be removed), but I'm wondering if there's a better namespace for it because the Creator/ namespace implies that the company is the source of various kinds of released multimedia, when as far as I can tell about 99% of the page is covering in-restaurant shows, music, or showtapes exclusively sold at the restaurants. Pardon if this was perhaps a question that was answered when the page was first created, but was there any particular logic for it and not something like Theatre/? (like with The Rock-afire Explosion, a predecessor to modern Chuck E. Cheeses).

It's not a work by itself but a brand or venue, which is likely why it is under the Creator namespace. It's not perfect, though, but I'm not aware of any current namespace that covers that kind of territory. It might be better as a Useful Notes page, as the actual content they produce is broader than something that can be catalogued and reported online, while we also have Suck E. Cheese's for parodies of the brand. That would make it comparable to a sports league than a tv network.

Edited by EmeraldSource on Oct 14th 2023 at 2:01:57 AM

I view Chuck E. Cheese more like Useful Notes than Advertising, Creator, Ride, or Theatre.

Looks more like a work or creator page to me — the page has got tropes.

I almost feel like the closest equivalent might be Ride/, as a place that exhibits tropes.

Anything that has to do with the actual animatronics show could go under Theater/ (going with the precedent of The Rock-afire Explosion), but information about the business at large would be best at Useful Notes/. There's also Advertising/ for any commercials, mascots, and stuff like that.

I think three separate pages is probably a bit much. UN would probably be the most general and all encompassing namespace, but UN pages don't typically have extensive trope examples. Advertising/ is a close second if the definition can be stretched into a hypothetical Business/.

Perhaps Franchise/, since the brand consists on many multimedia sources of content?

Franchise/ might be the best bet. i'd be tempted to vote Theater if it was more focused on the shows (and that could be split into its own page), but as mentioned above the current page covers a lot of different media

Edited by NoUsername on Oct 16th 2023 at 7:55:06 AM

Franchise/ requires at least three existing work pages in different mediums. E.g. Franchise.The Addams Family has ComicStrip.The Addams Family, Series.The Addams Family, and Film.The Addams Family (among other pages).

To clarify, Useful Notes and Creator don't count towards the three.

To be blunt, Chuck E Cheese is basically the same as trying to trope Dave and Busters, its more of a venue than a creative work. If the animatronic show was well documented and had a distinct name we might be able to cover it under theater, but the current page is focused on the brand name and marketing.

Marketing can use tropes, to be sure, but we usually cover those in an Advertising section of the trope articles, and we don't have corresponding work or creator articles (much like jokes and mythology/oral history). This is a specific exception to the crosswicking rules.

I'm late to the party here, but I'd like to know what people would think of splitting the page into two separate pages for Theater and Useful Notes.

Media Notes/ is finally a namespace. Could the background info on the restaurant just get moved there? We know the animatronics are tropeworthy can go to Theatre/ or Ride/ maybe.

Feels odd to have info on a restaurant chain under Media Notes, even if we're actually just troping the advertising and specials and stuff.