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Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#1: Mar 17th 2023 at 4:12:05 PM

Edit: added the extra pic since we're now looking at the Cletus page.

Another comic Characters page with multiple images that may not be justified. This page covers the various incarnations of the Marvel Comics villain Carnage.

Under "Carnage's Main Hosts", we have a folder for the original version of the villain, Cletus Kasady - which is just a (relatively) brief introduction plus a link to his own page, Characters.Carnage Cletus Kasady, for more information.

None of Cletus's tropes are even listed on this page, it's just signposting.

But we still have five different images for him:

1.1 Carnage

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/26017e5ffcc5c7d534b74749fef17f38.jpg

And then, behind labelnotes,

1.2 Venomized Carnage

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_iii_7.png

1.3 Poison Carnage
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/poison_carnage_4.png

1.4 Dark Carnage
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/dark_carnage.png

1.5 Devil Carnage
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/absolute_carnage_2.jpg

All five are also on his own Characters page - which has a sixth version ('Dragon Carnage') as well.
1.6 Dragon Carnage
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/dragon_carnage.png

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 26th 2023 at 10:32:37 AM

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#2: Mar 17th 2023 at 4:14:08 PM

Unsurprisingly, my view is -

  • Keep 1.1
  • Cut all the others - as they're on the other page as well, do we even need to add them to image links?
  • To stop this happening again, add a comment that extra images shouldn't be added without revisiting Image Pickin'

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#4: Mar 17th 2023 at 4:32:13 PM

Remove all but 1.1 on Characters.Marvel Comics Carnage. Also, I find it strange that Characters.Carnage Cletus Kasady has six images but none of them show his human face.

Edited by rjd1922 on Mar 17th 2023 at 6:32:32 AM

Keet cleanup
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#5: Mar 17th 2023 at 4:41:08 PM

[up] Agreed. I'm going to try to find a decent one of him 'unmasked' before I bring that to a new thread!

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#6: Mar 20th 2023 at 8:47:42 AM

1.1, move the others to an Image Links page

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#7: Mar 22nd 2023 at 3:14:27 PM

[up] Given they're all on Carnage - Cletus Kasady as well, I'd suggest that if they go on an Image Links page it's for that one, his own character-specific page, not the general Carnage one.

(Also, bump)

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2023 at 10:14:48 AM

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#8: Mar 22nd 2023 at 3:28:56 PM

Forgot to vote to move the rest for image links page

Edited by StalkerGamer on Mar 22nd 2023 at 7:29:07 AM

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#9: Mar 25th 2023 at 9:38:46 AM

This is at the clocking point. I've gone ahead and pulled the four caption images on the folder on Characters.Marvel Comics Carnage and tagged:

Carnage

Venomized Carnage 
Poison Carnage 
Dark Carnage 
Devil Carnage 

~Mrph1 , was the motion also to remove these from Characters.Carnage Cletus Kasady?

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#10: Mar 25th 2023 at 10:22:04 AM

[up] If it doesn't need a separate thread, absolutely. Note that there's a fifth one on that page which isn't duplicated here.

As that wasn't in scope for this thread, I assume it stays for a bit longer?

(None of the Cletus page images actually show his face out of costume, and there's Discussion page chat about finding one, so we can tackle that final image if/when that comes to Image Pickin')

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#11: Mar 25th 2023 at 11:30:07 AM

I've been searching for a decent image of Cletus sans symbiote, and these are the best I could find:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cletus_1_8.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cletus_2.png


As an aside, I was the one who added the multiple images (which was done when Cletus didn't have a character page of his own), wanting to show the character's various forms and not realizing there would be an issue given that other character pages have done the same (i.e. Ichigo Kurosaki from Bleach) and no-one's said anything.

Edited by Arawn999 on Mar 25th 2023 at 11:33:07 AM

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#12: Mar 25th 2023 at 12:06:07 PM

Character pages are so popular that we are basically stuck playing whack-a-mole whenever a new trend comes on (when to split? do they get YMMV subpages? and here: how many images is too many?)...but basically yes, "be a wikia gallery of every look ever" is not the goal of the character page, it's Image Links if anything. Representative images take priority.

OK, since that's popped up, pull the other costume variants and put 11.1 on Characters.Carnage Cletus Kasady.

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#13: Mar 25th 2023 at 12:07:59 PM

[up][tup]

One in costume + that one should be sufficient for the Cletus page, and I do like that one of him unmasked.

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#14: Mar 25th 2023 at 12:30:06 PM

[up][up] I see. I guess Ichigo's page will be up on the chopping block sooner or later, then, though I personally like having the different forms showcased.

Re. the Carnage in costume look, I've long felt the original one doesn't exactly give a clear look at him since he's crawling down a wall. How's this one look?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_93.jpg

(Could be cropped to just focus on his upper body.)

Edited by Arawn999 on Mar 25th 2023 at 12:32:23 PM

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#15: Mar 26th 2023 at 1:50:48 PM

Unstarred the thread and changed the title.

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#16: Mar 26th 2023 at 2:41:16 PM

Edited the first post in light of the changes - I've added the sixth Cletus image, for completeness.

My vote's to cut back to one costume image - either 1.1 or Arawn's 14 proposal, no strong preference, then add the [down][down]18 unmasked image as a second pic

(Edited again in light of the new unmasked image)

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 27th 2023 at 1:42:54 PM

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#17: Mar 26th 2023 at 6:56:06 PM

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_5.jpg

Cropped it. Is this better?

Edited by Arawn999 on Mar 26th 2023 at 6:56:16 AM

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#18: Mar 27th 2023 at 8:17:59 AM

Here's a good image of Cleus without the symbiote while we're at it.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/81d8cb10_1b7e_443e_9136_c76998abdf2d.jpeg

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#20: Mar 28th 2023 at 1:31:18 AM

[up][up] The prison bars kinda obscure him, don't they?

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#21: Mar 28th 2023 at 7:59:47 AM

We can still see his face fine. Maybe crop and enlarge?

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#22: Mar 28th 2023 at 9:46:33 AM

[up] Fair, though the image I posted up above — which is from the same comic — has an unobstructed view of his face.

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#24: Apr 3rd 2023 at 8:25:10 PM

So if the other forms of Cletus Kasady are being removed, should a ImageLinks.Carnage Kletus Kasady, ImageLinks.Marvel Comics Carnage, or ImageLinks.Carnage be created with the extra ones moved there? I don’t want to delete all the various forms seeing as they are all varied.

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#25: Apr 3rd 2023 at 11:09:24 PM

Image Links.Carnage would work best, I think.

2nd Apr '23 10:21:36 AM

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Characters.Carnage Cletus Kasady
  • Carnage pic
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