Ban-Evader Reversion Thread
Please read the outline below before proceeding any further.Important Note: This thread is devoted to reverting the edits of Tropers who have repeatedly chosen to evade their bans and suspensions, since serial ban-evasion is an act which is by its very nature a display of untrustworthiness, the fact that some ban-evaders outright engage in vandalism or add false information notwithstanding.
Depending on how much of the pages can be salvaged, they will either be noted in the B.E.R.T. Watch-List, locked if necessary, or cut if unsalvageable.
Any Frequently Vandalized Pages will also be monitored for suspicious activity.
If you notice a page is primarily edited by a certain ban-evader and/or their socks, please bring your findings to this thread so that cleanup can commence.
Potentially valid examples added by ban evaders should be transferred to Ban-Evader Example Rewrites so they can be salvaged. Make sure to mention transferring examples to the sandbox in your edit reason so others who may be willing to rewrite are aware.
Handling General Ban-Evader Edits:
To paraphrase what is stated here and here:- Bad faith is not necessarily assumed with the contributions of first-time ban-evaders, and their contributions can simply be rephrased assuming they're accurate.
- Any serial (more than once) ban-evader cannot be taken at their word, so their contributions are subject to harsher scrutiny. Any verifiable examples can be reworded (especially if there are grammatical or formatting issues), but unverifiable, false, or otherwise prohibited edits are removed.
- Ban-evaders who deliberately contribute inaccurate or false information are able to have their contributions deleted with little hesitation.
- Rewording or reverting can be as simple as expanding on a ban-evader's existing edits, especially if it means adding sufficient context or trimming word cruft.
The subsequent portions of this section outline further how to handle different kinds of edits and contributions.
The following types of edits can be left alone to preserve wiki quality:
- Grammatical corrections.
- Spelling corrections.
- Formatting updates and corrections.note
- Crosswicked examples from other tropers.
- Indexing (if accurate).note
- Accurately written potholes.note
- Links to the correct Work/Recap/Instalment/Franchise page, including red-linked works.note
- Archive edits. (See here.)
- Launched Tropes.note
The following edits might need to be reworded in order to stay on the wiki, and depending on the examples, may need to be re-evaluated/verified in this thread or in the proper cleanup threads.
- Zero-Context Example expansion.
- Otherwise correctly formatted and valid edits.
The following edits should remain hidden until they can be verified, and deleted if proven inaccurate:
The following items must be sent to the cut-list/otherwise removed on principle (and if applicable, re-created by a trustworthy editor from scratch using a Sandbox):
- Pages created by ban-evaders using their socks.note
- Videos uploaded by ban evaders using their socks.note
- Please refrain from "popcorn posting". This means refraining making comments such as "man, they don't know when to quit", or otherwise unproductive posts.
- Please maintain an atmosphere of civility.
- Please do not withhold information about potential sock-puppetry or other ban-evasion related misconduct, as withholding such information makes one an accessory to ban-evasion.
- When reverting edits, please make notes in the sandboxes, and transfer any potentially valid edits to the appropriate sandbox.
- When reverting ban-evader edits, please use an appropriate (and civil) edit reason.
- Should you suspect a ban-evader has shown up in this thread, please do not make open accusations, trash-talk them, or engage in other uncivil behaviour. Quietly holler the post and wait for mod input; if necessary (especially if suspicious edits or issues unrelated to the forum are involved), make a query at "Ask The Tropers".
- Please respect the thread consensus once it has been established. If an item is resolved, it is usually resolved for a reason.
- If you have any suggestions for new policies, or wish to contest an old one, do it in the General Policy Discussion, not here.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 13th 2024 at 10:23:58 AM
As per this ATT, Guest83416 is zwj ban-evading.
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.Dragon Tales Band is found to be a sock of Malcolm Middle Reboot per this ATT.
Impfrom Space is Justin Not Seen ban evading per this ATT.
Freaktreat was another Sayaka sock.
Edit: Nvm, apparently already reverted.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Sep 13th 2023 at 4:40:25 AM
Rawr.Vicki Vickster 22 is most likely ban evading as Peachy 2023 per this ATT based on editing pattern.
Don't forget about the sandboxes mentioned in the header for documenting reversions and rewriting potentially valid examples, people.
I have reverted two of Flower Picking's edits, so far.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Sep 14th 2023 at 11:14:44 AM
Rawr.Just putting in Spongebob Jimmy Neutron was a new sock of Malcolm Middle Reboot per this ATT for the record, since TantaMonty has already reverted their edits.
Turns out a lot of Flower's edits are formatting corrections, and don't need to be reverted.
Rawr.Just for record-keeping purposes:
- Dennis 300012 is found to be a sock of Jackson Joshua 23, aka Cooper Carl 300, aka Perry White 220 (and maybe Charlie Hash given this edit plus Nicholas Mac with this edit).
- Nickapto is found to be a sock of Nickangrybirds.
Justinmcmahan198849 has not been unbounced, but their other account Jm198849 was wasn't noticed until now, so his edits for the last 2 days probably should be handled.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI noticed that several pages created by cwf123 were cutlisted. However, if I'm not mistaken, that was the original account and the ban evading accounts came later, so the pages made by the first account wouldn't count as ban evasion, correct?
Correct. I tried to decline all of those, but it's likely I missed some. Pages with significant (judgment call) contributions by other tropers were also declined. Let's not demolish something that multiple people put together just because one of them's a troublemaker.
Yeah I do apologize for my hastiness, I had assumed that pages created by the original banned troper counted as "Ban Evasion". I do still wonder about how pages that were created by the banned troper, then after the ban only troper socks/alts return to edit the pages and no other unique user does.
Hm. The "revert socks' edits on principle" would apply and the non-sock edits left alone. Although that would be lower priority than immediate damage by recent ban evaders.
Record keeping: per this ATT, Wy Du U Du Wat U Du is a ban-evading Shaggadelllicc, who was suspended back in 2022.
Peregrine74 turned out to be a sock of Rakuraku, based on geolocation and IP overlap with previous Rakuraku socks.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 2nd 2023 at 10:57:57 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I would like to remind people to keep track of reversions in the sandboxes, please.
Rawr.Theeditor 2005 was apparently Lumberjack 4500 ban-evading.
Jayime seems to be our latest Sayaka sock.
We've reverted a quote change and cut a plagiarised page stub, but they made another 90+ edits before they were suspended.
Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 21st 2023 at 11:48:59 AM
Molecular was Malevolent Albaster ban evading.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Well, Molecular has ever edited one page that has already been reverted for vandalism, and made two posts that were thumped. Still good for keeping a track record.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupOh, hey. It looks like my hunch was right.
We'll need some cleanup on these edits.
Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Per here, Lucien Ren is Darth Nox Is Cool ban evading. Revert away.