Ambiguous Name: Americanitis

Currently "Americanitis" is a redirect to Cultural Translation, but as I remember it it was more used for Thinly-Veiled Dub Country Change.

When Americanitis was changed into a redirect, Thinly-Veiled Dub Country Change didn't exist yet; I suggest making the redirect point to this trope now that it's here.

Seems like a quick issue, so opening.

Note that the term "Americanitis" has a common meaning outside this wiki, which is basically a nervous breakdown due to excessive tension. It would make sense to base the redirect on that.

But it was never used on the wiki in that meaning.

Especially not in inbound links, which I suspect are the reason the redirect was kept in these days where the tendency is to cut.

Edited by Medinoc on Dec 3rd 2020 at 11:46:25 AM

Disambiguate, then.

Disambiguate, yes.

Funnily enough, the image to Thinly-Veiled Dub Country Change and the quote to Cultural Translation are the same.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Dec 3rd 2020 at 11:50:29 AM

Edit: Never mind, unless if that's a problem.

I am good with disambiguating, though!

Edited by Berrenta on Dec 3rd 2020 at 9:55:10 AM

Disambig.

Okay, done.

I don't think it's necessary to point out, on a disambig page, that this formerly meant X or was merged into Y.

Isn't Thinly-Veiled Dub Country Change a more complain-y version of Cultural Translation?

I think they're distinct enough. Cultural Translation is when culture-specific aspects of the original work— such as dialogues, proverbs and terminology—are translated in such a way that is easier to understand by the new audiences (but not necessarily the most accurate translation). Thinly-Veiled Dub Country Change is when they change the setting of the work to fit the target audience's location without changing any of the cultural aspects to make the switch believable.

Edited by Adept on Dec 8th 2020 at 3:20:45 AM

I agree with this. The entries on the disambig page need a re-write to focus only on the definition of the tropes.

And lose an important piece of TV Tropes history? I won't cause an Edit War over this, but I won't be the one doing it.

What "important piece" of history would we be losing, exactly? That something was merged into another thing? There are other pages to note that.

Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 5th 2020 at 1:19:38 PM

Disambiguation pages can host information on the previous history of the name. No idea why you would think otherwise.

Obviously they can, but in this particular case it would be clearer and more concise (and equally witty) if it didn't.

I have no stake in this personally; I just wasn't sure what sort of "wiki history" they were concerned about losing.

All that's left is deciding whether we should keep the "The original meaning of the Americanitis page before the merge." commentaries or not.

Berrenta, would you mind giving us your two cents?

I'm fine with that.

Then I guess this can be closed.

OK, closing.