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Yeah, that's quite non-illustrative. +1 to pull.
The name is non-indicative but this is an Our Monsters Are Different subtrope — it's about the different types of elves in fiction, not about how elves are a Superior Species (see its entry on Square Peg, Round Trope). Given that, the image is illustrative and gets a keep from me.
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Yet the Playing With page says it is about elves being the Superior Species, which its entry on Square Peg, Round Trope even notes. Maybe this should be taken to TRS?
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But this is part of the description before it goes into talking about elf types:
They are also quite aware of that fact and will let you know it, again and again and you won't argue about it (most of the time). After all, they've quite often been around for a lot longer than those upstart humans. The flavor of this betterness will vary across stories and authors between all-natural, magical, or just plain nasty. Some of them might even be humble and will make sure you know about it.
Since this trope is about elves being portrayed or seeing themselves as a Superior Species, the image should be pulled for not being illustrative.
That is not what the trope is about. From Square Peg, Round Trope (my emphasis):
If you disagree, you can try bringing it up in the Trope Repair Shop, but that ruling would need to be made before we consider pulling the image for not showing elves being snobbish.
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Keep until better image suggested.
Though this should be sent to trope repair shop
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I agree, the trope name explicitly gives the impression that this is about elvish superiority to other species, not "elves come in many different flavors".
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Looking at the
discussion, it appears that the page has been unclear on the description since 2011 (or even since before launch, but I don't know if we can still dig up a YKTTW draft that old). I get the feeling that the trope is currently trying to be both — elves as better than everyone else and Our Elves Are Different (which is also a redirect). Many of the posts on the archived discussion appear to be more the latter... I'd support a TRS lookover but I'm personally unwilling to do the legwork for it.
Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 21st 2019 at 4:04:06 AM
It's worth noting that the Everything's Worse with Snowclones page specifically points out the Our X Are Different family as an example of a naming pattern that actually works, provided that the word "different" is used. Our Elves Are Better is just one of many tropes that break that rule. (See the big list on Our Monsters Are Different.) It probably would be better if they were renamed, but it's a daunting prospect.
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Clock is set.
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I'd rather wait for TRS action to determine the scope of the trope.
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Keep current for now.
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Keep current until TRS
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Agree.
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Is someone on this thread going to do the TRS legwork?
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This is way past the clock and the consensus is to leave the pic in place until TRS does something with the trope. Locking up.
This is just three elves. They don't even look like they think they're better than each other.
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