The Administrivia policy for works created in other languages is Troping Works Created in Other Languages. At the moment, this is focused on works with official translations.
More broadly, TV Tropes has a rule that the latest English translation will normally take priority over the original (some exceptions are listed on the Administrivia page), but many pages and examples still use older titles and character names. This cleanup is to help relieve that.
For policy discussions, see the wiki talk Translation Policy thread
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For pages needing work, see here: Sandbox.English Localization Cleanup
Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 24th 2024 at 3:40:26 PM
Looks like it's Kimi ni Todoke: From Me to You
The Kiki Kai Kai series is better known as the Pocky & Rocky series outside Japan, and had a new game released under the title Pocky & Rocky Reshrined. Since there's pages for both names, should P & R be the official page name and the former a redirect?
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That one's come up before. I'm not sure if we came to a consensus.
I asked on a different thread and was told the English localization takes precedence.
the Retromancer
To clarify, if a page to be made for a game, it would go with the English name. Since the page is for the game series, it should be trademarked as a series because sometimes only two entries out of many are localized and it doesn't mean the rest are. I'm not super confident, but I believe Pocky & Rocky name can be applied to the series even though the arcade game is not exported.
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Wasn't the arcade game (or something resembling it) exported at some point?
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Kimi ni Todoke doesn't need to be moved; subtitles are optional.
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I added on Sandbox.English Localization Cleanup a bunch of Franco-Belgian comics that have official english titles.
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We've discussed that situation before.
If you didn't want to click on bwburke's link, basically the game was rereleased again but with the title reverted to the Japanese name.
I believe Telltale's Game of Thrones was recently moved to Game of Thrones (Telltale) based on a move away from "title begins with company's name and is unofficial" methods of disambiguating (see Sandbox.Disambiguating Works).
It's still listed in the English localization sandbox with a statement saying it should be moved to Game Of Thrones A Telltale Game Series, though. Do we still want to move it? It looks like Steam has the game under the title Game Of Thrones A Telltale Games Series ("Games" with an "s"), but it seems a bit silly to move it again so soon.
The Unknown
Wait so why does this thread have to handle that?
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the Retromancer
I dunno, this thread kinda turned into "renaming work pages" thread, even though we have a work disambiguation thread.
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This thread should be renamed to include works with multiple English-language names and have English be the original language of all of those works to include the misuse.
The last time I checked, Telltale Games is based in an English-speaking country and all of their games have English as the original language (and many of the works adapted also have English as the original language).
Edited by Nen_desharu on May 12th 2022 at 3:49:28 PM
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I agree it should be moved to Game of Thrones: A Telltale Games Series, since it's an official title rather than us adding a disambiguation.
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Should we rename this thread to become a general work renaming thread, since there are plenty of original English-language works listed.
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the Retromancer
If there's consensus for it.
Also we should probably ditch the list of examples in the pinned post, it's way too long and the sandbox sevres the same idea.
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I have created a new thread:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16523851890A79003700&page=1#1
the Retromancer
So are we renaming or splitting off then? I don't mind either way, but this thread can have long topics on translations.
Edited by Amonimus on May 12th 2022 at 11:04:08 AM
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I'll remove the list from OP.
We probably should have waited before making a new thread. I don't have much of an opinion right now but if we decide to rename maybe "Official and Localized Work Title Cleanup"
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This thread deals with more than just work titles, though...
The Unknown
Yeah, this thread handles cleanup of text on various pages to change character names and stuff. It's not just work titles.
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Ok, "Official Work Titles & English Localization Cleanup"?
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Is Kimi ni Todoke "officially translated" as Kimi ni Todoke: From Me to You, From Me to You or it's just a subtitle?
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