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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#1176: Oct 1st 2023 at 7:40:17 PM

Homelander was made to be an attack dog/company mascot so of course he doesn’t know how to lead the company.

It would be like if Sephiroth tried running Shinra after killing the President.

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#1177: Oct 1st 2023 at 8:22:36 PM

That was one of the things the comics had a lot too, though to a more extreme degree. Supes, including Homeander, were strong but they weren't particularly tough.

As is, they're probably building to an eventual Homelander/Starlight fight, with plenty more characters playing a supporting part.

32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#1178: Oct 2nd 2023 at 2:23:37 AM

I've got the vague impression that Homelander probably couldn't end the world.

If he really let loose yeah he could do a lot of damage and easily kill millions if he started toppling buildings or something, but I think to really do maximum damage he'd need to maintain a kind of guerilla style I don't think his personality would support.

I think he'd be more the type to tyrant over a city and use the threat of himself to stop intervention.

So either way he'd be fairly vulnerable to supers coming out of the wood work if he started committing large scale atrocities. And given the ones we see able to hurt him, I feel like surely there must be dozens around that could take him out with the right circumstances/team ups.

Which I think him starting on either path would really encourage. Plus it would let governments ect work against him openly.

Edited by 32ndfreeze on Oct 2nd 2023 at 8:24:27 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#1179: Oct 2nd 2023 at 5:03:32 AM

They've pretty much been working on the assumption that he could survive a nuke and thats why they are so scared of him.

Sure they can't verify it but they don't want the possibility to risk confirming it. And this if has been the holding of the fear surrounding Homelander, they have no idea the actual limits of his powers and that scares them.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
dmcreif from Novi Grad, Sokovia Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1180: Oct 3rd 2023 at 11:18:11 AM

Honest Trailer for seasons 2 and 3:

The cold never bothered me anyway
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#1181: Oct 3rd 2023 at 11:39:27 AM

I forget was Noir confirmed to be returning for season 4?

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#1182: Oct 3rd 2023 at 11:45:20 AM

Uh the creators I think Said old noir is dead but. Legacy character and one whose apparnelty supsoed to be more faithful to his source will appear.

Tbh if true not a fan. I like that they made him a three dimensional character.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1183: Oct 3rd 2023 at 11:45:32 AM

IIRC a Noir was confirmed as returning. But it's going to be another character in the suit.

In other words, Black Noir will be recast within the fiction.

Though the suit actor will be the same (who, incidentally, was not the same actor who played unmasked Noir).

Edited by Larkmarn on Oct 3rd 2023 at 2:46:37 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#1184: Oct 3rd 2023 at 11:51:24 AM

[up][up] I have the guess it could be a composite deal. It’s the same guy or technically the same guy cloned back to life but they manage to splice in Homelander’s DNA giving him his powers.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
dmcreif from Novi Grad, Sokovia Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1185: Oct 3rd 2023 at 2:06:51 PM

You know, if you think about it, Emma burrowing through that guard's head in miniature form to kill him gives you an idea as to what Yellowjacket Hank's killings of Tony Stark and Clint Barton would look like if the MCU didn't have Bloodless Carnage.

Edited by dmcreif on Oct 3rd 2023 at 5:07:21 AM

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dmcreif from Novi Grad, Sokovia Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1186: Oct 6th 2023 at 6:53:55 AM

It's safe to say that Tek-Knight did discover the hole truth, after all. Of course, this is shown through him trying to emulate Mr. Bean drying himself off.

Emma is now Giant-Woman, and her dynamic with Sam almost feels like it has a bit of "King Kong and Ann Darrow" vibe to it.

Everyone had a mass blackout there. I want to say they were in a White Room, but that seems unlikely. What is likely, though, is that Rufus's powers were used on a massive scale, since the incident with Marie at the start of the episode establishes he can mind control people and erase their memories. I know a few people are guessing that Cate might be a traitor, but that seems unlikely because 1) if she was, well, why didn't she use her powers to make Andre forget when he was the only one questioning the story about Luke? I doubt she'd wait until the whole Scooby gang is investigating. Besides, 2) she burst a blood vessel in her eye using her powers on Rufus, and nearly had a brain aneurysm over compelling that guard to Deep Throat his partner's flashlight; I doubt she'd be able to use her powers on four people without major harm to herself.

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#1187: Oct 6th 2023 at 8:03:43 AM

I didn't really like what they did with Black Noir, but I think most of his comic personality went to Homelander anyway, so there's not much left to scrape into a new version.

Be surprised if they use the edgiest parts of the storyline.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#1188: Oct 6th 2023 at 10:08:33 AM

I think The Boys TV show has benefited by toning down the Ennis-ness of it all.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1189: Oct 6th 2023 at 11:11:37 AM

Yeah. The comic is just... Ennis being Ennis. That they made something workable from it while still being vaguely recognizable is impressive.

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dmcreif from Novi Grad, Sokovia Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1190: Oct 6th 2023 at 11:58:17 AM

This whole essay's a good summary of the Ennis-isms that plague the comics:

"The original Boys comic was like it was written by an edgy teen that thought that adding the most amount of graphic violence, swearing, sex, and racial slurs would make his story stand out."

In the comments:

VeWatchesVideos: The problem with Garth Ennis is that his writing sometimes really devolves into him standing on his soapbox to bitch about things that make him mad, but rather than explore or dissect why he has an issue with it (which can make for really interesting material), he just rants without any interest in research on why things are a certain way or engaging with the stuff that frustrates him. In this comic, he goes out of his way to shit on superheroes and paint them as useless in real life (nevermind that he specifically worked to create a world where there are somehow no alien threats or people who use their powers for evil, which are usually a staple of the genre), creates Soldier Boy as a way to "lampoon" Captain America because "the character offends him as a WWII buff" (nevermind that Cap was created before the war started, his creators earned death threats from the American right for the character's anti-Nazi stand, he was very popular with American WWII soldiers and said creators served in WWII) and rants about how the superhero genre killed comic genres he liked more (nevermind that during this decline, all types of comics were dying out and superhero comics were the only ones to prevent a complete decline).

BlazeMakesGames: Wait a second. If you think about it, if the Boys are fully powered from the start, and all the superheroes are objectively evil cause they're pedophiles and shit...then didn't he just completely recreate the thing that they were making fun of from the start? Like, all he did was make a superhero team that goes around killing bad guys. Sure it's much more gory and edgy than a traditional superhero story, but at the end of the day he literally just recreated the thing he supposedly hates so much. After all, the core of all superhero stories is that the hero discovers and then has to take out the bad guy.
It really does feel like this guy didn't even know what he actually hated. I guess the only thing he actually had a problem with was the idea of people wearing costumes. But this seems like a lot of effort to go through just to make that statement. And when you have a main character who's clearly designed to look cool by wearing a trenchcoat all the time, well, sorry buddy, but you just made a costume.

Edited by dmcreif on Oct 7th 2023 at 11:23:41 AM

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NotGrantMorrison I'm not this pen either Since: Jul, 2014
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#1191: Oct 6th 2023 at 1:23:37 PM

Just how much food was in that kitchen?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#1192: Oct 6th 2023 at 1:51:46 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] Noir in the comic is basically just a plot twist that doesn't make any sort of sense.

The show isn't missing out much there.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#1193: Oct 7th 2023 at 4:03:30 PM

[up][up][up] I think he nailed it on the head. The comic was cartoonishly over the top while the show dails it back.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#1194: Oct 8th 2023 at 10:18:43 PM

The biggest issue I have with Gen V is the fact that it really isn't much of a parody of the X-men because all of the relationship drama, powers killing people, crippling self-loathing, and so on is actually pretty true to the comics.

Which is different from the Justice League parody of the Seven in the main setting.

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#1195: Oct 9th 2023 at 4:41:54 PM

About Gen V what's your guys favorite and least favorite powers so far? Mine has to be Jordan and Tek Knight while my least favorites are Emma and the Tail Girl imo.

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dmcreif from Novi Grad, Sokovia Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Robosexual
#1196: Oct 11th 2023 at 9:14:24 PM

Cate's powers kinda interest me, and make me see her as a cross between Kilgrave, and Elsa.

Edited by dmcreif on Oct 12th 2023 at 8:46:16 AM

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#1197: Oct 12th 2023 at 8:23:30 AM

[up] I like Cate's powers too because it's cool but I don't like the side effects where if you use your powers too much, you probably get a brain aneurysm and you might accidentally command someone because of touching.

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TheGunheart Since: Jan, 2001
#1198: Oct 12th 2023 at 1:56:29 PM

...is that how everyone grins in Garth Ennis' comics? @_@

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#1199: Oct 12th 2023 at 3:40:56 PM

Eh, Ennis doesn't actually draw the art so he gets a pass there. Not that it's NOT weird but it's not on him specifically.

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#1200: Oct 12th 2023 at 5:47:31 PM

Episode 5 just came out today and well ,well, well, we were right about Cate being the traitor. Also, I love the Sam's puppet hallucination massacre scene.

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