WC3:Reforged

That reminds me of the joke I remember reading here, about the stern talking-to the Emperor would give the Imperium of Man if He were to come back to life.

"Why haven't you conquered all the aliens yet?! You're using psykers?! Have I taught you nothing?!"

That joke is basically the entirety of If the Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech Device

I'm in the blind after Wrath of the Lich King (and hadn't even done a single raid). What's BFA?

Well at least in Wo W they treat him as being THAT powerful, none of the other Liches even come close to his level.

Battle For Azeroth, the current expansion

You must be pretty powerfull if they have to drive a race to near extinction to revive you.

That said, a Burning Legion faction would have been really cool. I always wanted to use Felhounds and Doomguards

Edited by fasoman1996 on Nov 19th 2018 at 12:39:43 PM

On the lich discussion, as far as I remember the current liches who are not Kel'Thuzad were the former Death Knights of WC2 that survived the events of the Dark Portal expansion along with Ner'Zhul.

Also, I think they once said that Kel used to be a high ranking member of the Kirin'Tor before he was exiled.

Kel was a generic Necromancer when killed the first time in the campaign, but I chalk that up to gameplay reasons. Story-wise, he was a pretty powerful mage of the Kirin-Tor.

And they were remade and reformed into the Liches we know within the Twisting Nether by the Burning Legion, so plenty of ley energies to work with there.

Makes one wonder if the Legion could just send liches, Dreadlords and the Lich King to Azeroth without issue, why they needed him to raise an army when there, why not just send their troops too.

They got lazy.

I've always been under the idea that the Legion can't send the bulk of its forces without some kind of "foot in the door", something they didn't have until the end of the Undead campaign. Encounters with them have consisted mainly of closing whatever conduit they're using to gain access to the world. After that you usually just have leftovers to deal with.

^ That pretty much is the answer. The Burning Legion came to Azeroth the first time by way of the Well of Eternity a big honking pool of mystical energies (magic) used by the Highborne elves. They can't just plonk an army down wherever they want.

Like I said, the Legion's weakness is logistics and transport. They can't easily travel to other worlds quickly through the Twisting Nether without being summoned somehow. It's why they go with the typical Deal with the Devil temptation route — to get suckers to do their dirty work for them and to open the door for them.

Edited by M84 on Nov 22nd 2018 at 11:51:53 PM

The closest they came was during the Legion expansion, via the Tomb of Sargaeras, and the entire ToS Raid and the Cathedral of Eternal Night dungeon are dedicated to closing that door (though, admittedly, Illidan deliberately effs that up to try and setup a deathblow for the Legion).

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 22nd 2018 at 8:54:46 AM

Even then, the Legion needed the aid of Gul'Dan to open up the portal in the Tomb in the first place.

And accomplishing that required grabbing the Timey-Wimey Ball.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:32:51 PM

So basically the Burning Legion is in fact a very appropriate name for a group that requires very particular conditions for a situation to cause them, like a fire.

This all got me thinking, how exactly did Tichondrius and Mal'Ganis enter Azeroth?

Edited by Druplesnubb on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:01:54 PM

Uhhhhhhhhh, a Medivh did it. Probably.

Maybe they can pull it off in ones and twos?

^ That's more or less it. They can send singular or small numbers of agents anywhere anytime but to summon an entire army requires a lot more power.

No you sillies, they spawned through the Scourge altars.

THE NIGHT BECKONS

"If I have wings, why am I always walking? :S"