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NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Aug 14th 2017 at 11:44:45 AM

Bear Trap Bed is a subtrope of Murphy's Bed that only concerns freestanding folding beds and perhaps camp cots. Murphy's Bed is supposed to cover all other beds and chairs that malfunction and injure their occupants, whether true Murphy Beds (one that folds up or into a wall), hammocks, lawn chairs, futons, sofa beds, etc. And yet despite the fact that both BTB and MB have their distinctions definitions on both pages as well as links to each other, we're still getting misplaced examples. I suggest a merge.

Current list of examples on the pages, along with their categories:

Murphy's Bed (Comedic):

  • True Murphy/Wall Beds: Tintin, Wallace and Gromit, Great Muppet Caper, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World, The Pink Panther Strikes Again, Silent Movie, The Night They Raided Minskys (I think), The Fifth Element, Are You Being Served, My Name is Earl, Allo Allo (I think), Cheers, Home Improvement, Suite Life of Zack and Cody (example needs to be rewritten, generally "pull-out bed" means a sofa/hide-a-bed), 2 Broke Girls (I think), The Sims 2, The Curse of Monkey Island, Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon, Classic Disney Shorts (1st), The Venture Bros.
  • Hammocks: Calvin and Hobbes, Three's Company, Mama's Family, The Simpsons (2nd), Classic Disney Shorts (2nd), Tom and Jerry
  • Bunk Beds: Anastasia, Chicken Run, The Three Stooges, Black Sheep/Step Brothers, The Great Escape, Lilo and Stitch,
  • Sofa/Hide-a-bed: The Beverly Hillbillies, The Simpsons (1st)
  • Lawnchairs: Classic Disney Shorts (3rd), Charlie Brown Thanksgiving, Ed Edd n Eddy, Cow and Chicken
  • Examples that don't seem to fit and must be reevaluated or else don't have enough details: Bag Enders, Matt Helm, The Muppet Show, Brawl in the Family, Robot Chicken
  • Folding Beds and Cots: Lolita, Goblin Hollow
  • Misc.: Love, American Style (needs expansion), Modest Medusa (needs to be removed)

Murphy's Bed (Serious):

  • True Murphy/Wall Beds: James Bond (X2), Ellery Queen, 1000 Ways to Die
  • Bunk Beds: Willie Collins
  • Sofa Beds: Russian Woman
  • Bear Trap Beds (folding beds): Freddy vs. Jason (I think)
  • Examples that don't seem to fit and must be reevaluated or else don't have enough details: Friday the 13th, Adventures of Pete and Pete, Nobilis
  • Misc.: Procustes (This isn't an example, the problem isn't with the bed)

Bear Trap Bed:

  • Correct usages of Bear Trap Bed: The Naked Gun, Spy Hard, The Wrong Guys, Lolita, Tintin, Classic Cartoons, The Jetsons (albeit an exaggeration), Fairly Oddparents, Freddy vs. Jason, My Name is Earl, St. Elsewhere
  • Incorrect (at least as written, unknown specific type): Mr. Hulot's Holiday
  • Incorrect (really wall beds): James Bond
  • Incorrect (really a cot): Discworld, Donald Duck
  • Incorrect (really a lawnchair): Bloody Good Time
  • Incorrect (really a sofabed): Russian man
  • Incorrect (etc.): Gaston Lagaffe, I Love Lucy (he's just an idiot), The Middle (if the bed isn't opened it can't malfunction), Doctor Who
  • Needs expansion and clarification: Crank Yankers, The Beverly Hillbillies, That Girl, How I Met Your Mother, Rugrats, The Wuzzles, The Simpsons, Phineas and Ferb

edited 14th Aug '17 1:00:30 PM by NateTheGreat

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#2: Aug 14th 2017 at 12:15:16 PM

~Nate the Great

If two or more pages are having the same issue, leave the page field blank. There's no way that we can tag two pages at once at this time.

I'll keep the thread open for discussion.

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#3: Aug 14th 2017 at 1:12:11 PM

Fixed the tag.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#4: Aug 21st 2017 at 4:05:32 PM

I support a merge, seeing that even Murphy's Bed has a soft split between serious and non-serious examples.

NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Aug 31st 2017 at 7:13:17 AM

While we're at it, do we need a rename for Murphy's Bed? I'm proud of the pun, but wall beds are technically only part of the examples. Would a more inclusive name for all beds and chairs that involve hinges or multiple components be better?

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#6: Aug 31st 2017 at 1:43:15 PM

What would you suggest?

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NateTheGreat Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Aug 31st 2017 at 4:49:41 PM

Do we need to expand past beds and chairs all the way to furniture? Combine and resplit the purposeful/malicious examples and the comedy examples into Fatal Furniture and Funny Flawed Furniture (or possibly Funny Furniture Failure)?

edited 31st Aug '17 6:38:26 PM by NateTheGreat

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#8: Sep 2nd 2017 at 4:05:12 AM

I would not expand the trope beyond beds. As it says on the page, it's the place where people feel most secure. Something like The Alleged Bed or Bed Trouble?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#10: Dec 3rd 2017 at 9:12:37 PM

How about Combative Bed?

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Feb 2nd 2018 at 8:36:12 PM

I would support merging Bear Trap Bed with Murphy's Bed. None of the suggested renames or expansions sound convincing to me, though.

Kpriv J Keith from Chicago Since: Dec, 2012
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#12: Feb 14th 2018 at 1:48:39 AM

Merge and keep the Murphy's Bed name or stay close... (Murphy's Law of Murphy Beds?)

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#13: Jun 15th 2018 at 1:43:51 PM

Merge and keep Murphy's Bed, I think.

edited 15th Jun '18 1:44:22 PM by Redmess

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#15: Aug 23rd 2018 at 11:52:38 PM

Clock is set.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#16: Aug 24th 2018 at 3:07:24 AM

I count 6 votes for merging into Murphy's Bed (including mine).

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#18: Aug 24th 2018 at 7:08:07 AM

Make it 8.

Edited by Piterpicher on Aug 24th 2018 at 4:11:16 PM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#19: Aug 27th 2018 at 8:48:27 AM

Also throwing in my support for a merge.

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#21: Oct 25th 2018 at 10:42:26 PM

Sure, go ahead and merge.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#22: Nov 29th 2018 at 5:27:23 PM

Help. I cannot delete the Bear Trap Bed entries on protected pages:

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#24: Nov 29th 2018 at 8:16:41 PM

[up][up] I got the Lolita page; archive pages don't get edited.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#25: Dec 1st 2018 at 4:28:06 AM

Migration of examples and cutting of Bear Trap Bed complete.


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