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I have a question. Which one of these is more popular? I kinda have a question since it lists multiple ones for the same character.
Do you think the entry I made does that? I don't want it to. I meant for it to be like some people think that they have better chemistry, not that the canon lacks chemistry. Though I acknowledge that my original one gave that impression. Though I think the proffread one's are really good entries. I am wondering if you can right an entry without acknowledging that the fan preference does come at least a little from chemistry between two characters.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 5th 2020 at 12:12:23 PM
@nrjxll Yeah I admit on that last one specifically my bias comes through.
@Bullman I think that was for me. Also, I feel like different fan bases for the same show can support different ideas.
Edited by futuremoviewriter on Jul 5th 2020 at 10:30:20 AM
Well there goes that discussion.
Yeah, it kind of sucks, I was interested in learning how things were gonna move forward here, but oh well. Guess it could'be been worse.
Yeah. It does suck, but it could have been worse.
Anyways I could summarize what was said if you all are interested.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 7th 2020 at 6:36:56 AM
God I can only imagine how those on the counseling thread must feel right now.
I admit I might have been talking out of my ass a little. From what I recall, I was basically saying that there were times this seemed popular enough to become Official Couple as seemed to be the case with Olicity on Arrow and times when it is not. I also mentioned coupling on Teen Wolf and also that Riverdale has a rather nasty shipping war (and I spoke about all this based on clips I had seen on each show or stuff I read online too).
I remember how we seemed to agree that there doesn't have to be an Official Couple, so long as there was a pairing that the creators preferred. There needs to be a disconnect between what the creator and the fans prefer.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 7th 2020 at 7:05:04 AM
I remember also asking if an Official Couple needed to exist to have a Fan-Preferred Couple and it seemed to be agreed there just had to be a heavily implied couple at the very least. Which I think makes sense, though, if that's the case, quite a few examples on the page might end up having to go.
Yep that was the thing most agree on and a lot of them have to go. Can you think of any? I could use some distracting.
Lucky for you, I have one I was thinking about. Been looking at a lot of tropes involving Yu-Gi-Oh! VRAINS and was kind of confused on this entry, which is why I came here in the first place:
I don't think we discussed that yet, but since we are it, I don't think there should be more than one per character. I also think you are right it needs to be clear that it's the main ship, and if there is not that much Ship Tease then there's no way to know if it's creator preferred.
Speaking of bad entries here's ones from Austin & Ally and Live-Action TV:
These don't count. They were clearly going to get together from the beginning and they were given heaps of Ship Tease from the very start. Dez and Trish are the same. There was no disconnect between the creators and fans here. I have watched the show enough times to know.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 7th 2020 at 7:56:29 AM
Yeah, that's clearly the intended reaction, so those definitely don't count.
Never watched it, but I agree, sounds like it definitely doesn't count. I'm guessing the other dude is an obvious Romantic False Lead?
Overall, though, if we're in agreement about some sort of couple existing in the first place, then the page definitely needs a rewrite to make this clear, though it seems every time someone attempts to take it to the TRS, interest vanishes and nothing ever comes of it.
Yep he is a very clear Romantic False Lead. Heck the episode that introduces Dallas is just one big Ship Tease for Austin and Ally.
I also agree that the page needs a rewrite.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 7th 2020 at 9:22:02 AM
Speaking of Author Intention, when it came to every possible romantic pairing on How to Rock except for Grelson (Grace/Nelson), writer David M. Israel was very hush-hush about which ones would have actually been endgame. Drove Zevie shippers (Zander/Stevie) up a wall.
Edited by futuremoviewriter on Jul 7th 2020 at 8:58:01 AM
Then I am not sure it could have a Fan Preferred Couple then.
Well the show was never outright truly about who Stevie would end up with. It implied in the beginning though that Zander would end up with Kacey and then near the end implied he would end up with Molly. Support for Zander and Stevie being together among most of the fans was VERY vocal.
Edited by futuremoviewriter on Jul 7th 2020 at 8:58:41 AM
Okay. Then yeah that might be a Fan Preferred Couple.
Oh I would definitely say so. Even without the potential pairings with Kacey or Molly (the latter I think was more likely), the idea of Zander and Stevie was only hinted at at times and was born more so through the fans’ strong interest certainly.
Edited by futuremoviewriter on Jul 7th 2020 at 9:07:04 AM
So while looking at some more entries, I stumbled upon another issue that I want to ask about. So let's say that Bob/Alice is the Official Couple. They're by far the most popular couple in the show. Danny/Charlotte is also an Official Couple. However, fans generally prefer to ship Danny with Bob over Charlotte, but while Danny/Bob is more popular than Danny/Charlotte, it's still less popular than Bob/Alice. Would that make Danny/Bob still count as a Fan-Preferred Couple to Danny/Charlotte?
Edited by Oshawott337 on Jul 7th 2020 at 10:18:00 AM
I would say yes. But only if it can rival Bob/Alice. Not succeede them, but at least give them a run for there money. It's still technically a disconnect between the creators and fans. However that only counts for Danny and I feel it would need to be noted in the write up.
Also removed the Austin and Ally examples since everyone seemed to be in agreement that they don't count.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 8th 2020 at 9:52:22 AM
It would still be a popular pairing among the fans, then yes, it would definitely fit this.
Also, Austin & Ally was definitely meant to be the Official Couple based on what I have seen, so no, they would not be this.
A long time ago, the House of Anubis fandom really liked the idea of pairing Patricia and Jerome together, partially because they were the only ones left unpaired at the end of the first season and partially because their personalities seemed to work well together. "Patrome" as it became called was super popular and had a lot of fics and stuff...but come season 2, Patricia had a love interest introduced in the form of Eddie, and "Peddie" was wildly popular. Patrome didn't stand a chance, and Peddie, which was official, became possibly the most popular shipping after the one of Nina and Fabian, which was also official.
Would Patrome qualify as a Fan-Preferred Couple if it's specified that this preference only lasted until season 2 came out?
I would say so. Something similar happened with Victorious. Where in Season 1 Cade (Cat x Jade) was the most popular ship. However by Season 2 the fandom moved on to different pairings ( Cat x Robbie/Sam and Jade and Tori respectively). I would still list it though, but make sure that the entry specifies that it only counts for Season 1.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 8th 2020 at 1:05:30 PM
I think Patrome would definitely count for this. Odd that they were not paired at all since they both fit pretty well under Snark Knight.
Man I miss House of Anubis. I was a big Fabina shipper and hoped that rather than be with Mara, Fabian would have gone to America to be with Nina. Word of God I think said that happened though.
Edited by futuremoviewriter on Jul 8th 2020 at 12:23:14 PM
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