Live Action Lion King Movie

Let's face it, we've already got an excellent live action Lion King movie, and it's called Black Panther.

Except in that one Mufasa killed Scar.

Wanted to comment about that. I'm not completely comfortable with the Black Panther/Lion King comparison, as it seems to have more to do with Small Reference Pools regarding Africa than a comparison of plotlines.

However, it actually works rather well in terms of Killmonger being an evil Simba/ windleopard's comparison about Mufasa killing Scar, given that the movie is loosely based on Hamlet.

There's a So Bad, It's Good Jacobean play called The Tragedy of Hoffman, that is a pastiche and/or parody (depending on the degree to which you read it as intentionally humorous) of Hamlet, and the premise is that the Hamlet-like character, Hoffman, is the son of an official who turned pirate, and was executed, and therefore plots to avenge his father by killing everyone with any relation/connection to the ruler who sentenced his father.

Which makes for an interesting deconstruction of the Protagonist-Centered Morality of revenge tragedies, when you take away the element of an actual moral wrong that sets up the Excuse Plot of the clever and gruesomely funny acts of revenge.

But to get to the point, Killmonger is accidentally rather like Hoffman and by extension accidentally (?) like Hamlet and Simba because of having the kind of Moses in the Bullrushes/ avenging a slain father plotline that heroes typically get but with the morality given a skew.

edited 30th Apr '18 1:48:34 PM by Hodor2

Except Hamlet himself is a reconstruction of such a hero, or at the very least he’s far from an uncritical acceptance of the revenge seeker.

Definitely. And of course, he's famously under-reactive.

I should also add that while Hoffman is definitely inspired by Hamlet, the take-off on the Roaring Rampage of Revenge better fits something like The Revenger's Tragedy. Incidentally, Hoffman falls in lust/love with the mother of his first victim, whose identity he steals. Which suggests to me that contemporaries were aware of Hamlet's Incest Subtext.

Realize this is off-topic, just was reminded of the Hamlet/Killmonger connection.

So how 'bout those talking lions?

edited 30th Apr '18 2:23:55 PM by Hodor2

If they include humans in the lion king just so they can have their romance plot I will scream

Um, why would they? We already have the Simba/Nala relationship in the story. Why would they need humans for a romance sub plot? Or humans at all seeing as how those weren’t in the original story.

I don't know why they would but being live action makes my imagination think so

It is not live-action; Disney never said it was.

I guess "Photorealistic Lion King Remake" doesn't have the same punch to it.

> It is not live-action; Disney never said it was.

It's in the damn title of the thread

The thread title ain’t a source. The official Disney press release is. Nowhere do they say it’s live-action.

I'll hollar a mod and ask them to move this to the western animation forum and a name change since it's confusing me further,along with most people

Teaser

Am I the only one who thought the glimpse we saw of the wildebeest stampede looked... kinda small? I mean in the original, it was this huge set-piece that featured hundreds of wildebeest charging at a time. Here, there's probably about no more than sixty at the start. There's probably more offscreen, by why would you scale the size of the cliffs down for the remake?

Edited by chasemaddigan on Nov 22nd 2018 at 6:39:47 AM

Finally! I wonder how they will classify it as? Live-Action Movie or Realistic Animated Movie with Live-Action backgrounds?

Oh, and I'm disappointed I didn't see Scar. Want to see what he looks like in a realistic setting.

Okay that actually looks pretty cool.

x3

I would assume its a problem of the "REALISTIC" take. Animation inherently exagerates and makes things bigger than they actually are. Being "Realistic" often takes the gravity out of things, especially if you're adapting something that was animated.

x4 I agree. Also, the gorge looks way too small. It looks way too cramped for the stampede to happen. And Pride Rock looks weird.

Also, the rhino in the trailer is an Indian rhino....

Edited by TVRulezAgain on Nov 22nd 2018 at 11:00:05 AM

Then quick! Tell Disney about that mistake and maybe they can replace it with a CGI model of a real African Rhino instead.

That seems unnecessary to me.

There's only one mistake that this remake needs to address or this entire thing will be for naught... will they change the gopher back into a naked mole rat like he was originally intended to be?! If they don't fix this egregious of a screw-up, well then I don't see how Disney could possibly bounce back from such thing.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Nov 22nd 2018 at 12:05:53 PM

The Cave of Wonders got the same treatment in the live action Aladdin, iirc.

It looked the same size to me. It's the relatively close framing that makes it look smaller than the original.

Well, some people on Twitter are trying to do that.

They probably just reused the Indian rhino model from The Jungle Book and called it a day.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 22nd 2018 at 10:20:24 AM