Undertale/Deltarune

I've always gone with the theory, though admittedly it took a while for me to accept it that Frisk and Chara are the same person. That the intro text and the story of Chara falling from the mountain are the same one, and that Chara's SOUL that Torial berried was exactly where you ended up. Notice that you don't get the menu screen until after you walk over the flowers.

Flowy thinks you're Chara because you are. He even speculates about this "did you hear me calling to you?"

That and all the coincidences just keep adding up. You have the same color of SOUL, you both fell down the mountain, you both have an odd body that doesn't change expression. Your body as Frisk looks weird and yellowed because it's a corpse.

The entity that controls this body is you the player, and thus how it ties into the Charrator concept. Frisk doesn't exist, it was a name Chara gave to Asriel to let him find some comfort. It also goes with Chara finding their own agency in Pacifist or Genocide runs, at the end of Pacifist they don't do everything you do and are able to communicate to tell Asriel their name.

The player was there to give Chara another chance at life.

The soul is explicitly yours tho, theirs got destroyed from dying while fused.

Yeah I figured that's how Chara exists in this game. Soulless like Flowey and unable to comprehend emotion, and you teach them whether or not peace or violence works.

Alternatively Flowey was correct in the Genocide route when he said that Chara has a stolen soul, and that's how Chara is able to feel emotion, like how they judge some of your actions as the narrator.

Heya, just popping in real quick because I wanted to share some art a webcomic artist I like (Mary Cagle @cubewatermelon) did some request art as part of a Patreon stream and one of those drawings was Susie.

https://twitter.com/cubewatermelon/status/1068675079700127745

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 30th 2018 at 6:28:48 AM

The problem is exactly what Chara IS.

She is not a monster, neither human a this point, she clings to Frisk determination and move from there, I will guess that a this point Geno Chara is not much evil more than heartless, kind of a terminator, she dosent have any moral anymore but rather she is a being of pure, unfertter determination, willing to destroy over and over and over and over, not matter how pointless it is because it dosent really care anymore.

Or that is how I see it.

Anyway, did you like the chararter in Detal rune? Suzy and Rasirel grow on me, Lancer is.....meh, I find him a mix between Sans and Papyrus, and King spade is...intersting.

Ralsei is a precious fluffy boy and I love him.

Susie and Lancer are definitely the best characters in my opinion just because of their arc throughout the game. King Spade is interesting because he's the one bad guy in Toby Fox's games that is truly an evil asshole with no redeeming qualities. Kris is meh. Ralsei's cute, I guess, but he's honestly too predictable for my tastes. Seam, though, that dude is my absolute favorite character in either Undertale or Deltarune.

Hrh-hrm.

   i cannot keep up with all of the fan projects in this series anymore   

It seems that FNAFTALE project did eventually get made in some form:

This looks like the Persona 4 Arena equivalent of Undertale. And I love it.

I don't think there is much of reason to even try to keep track of all fan projects, especially since most of them them to die in few years when hype calms down

That said whut, is this same Fnaftale or different one?

Edited by SpookyMask on Dec 3rd 2018 at 5:15:19 PM

The intersting thing I foud is that while everyone said he is evil asgord, I found him to be in fact Flowey, right to he part of declaring himself "the bad guy".

I wont said he is totally super evil, in fact him becoming bitter for the lighter going away kinda sound similar to Flowey being upset for Chara death.

In fact Lancer and is father is kind of a mirror version of Flowey and Asgore

I mean, I figured the King calling himself 'the bad guy' was more about mirroring his son, who had said that on his introduction as well.

Kinda but it also a play on flowey and asgore: Lancer got evil bad guy vibes at first but it show he cant follow it, kinda like asgore, meanwhile King Spade self style as Bad guy and follow it, even he said he will gladly done is life if that complete is plan, just like flowey.

Also I saw this coment who said "here's proof that deltarune is a sequel: Undertale is "a sequel to a game that does not exist" the game that does not exist is DELTARUNE

"

....Maybe that is true.

Wouldn't that be evidence for Deltarune being a prequel, not sequel?

Depending on what we put prequel or sequel, my money is that event in delta rune affect undertale to some extended thanks to gaster busllshiterry somehow.

but as direct "this happen before and after this game" or "this game explain x feature of another"? no.

Also I think gaster is the knight.

"Before" and "after" might not even apply in the traditional sense here, given that this is a completely different world.

Consider: After working on Homestuck, Toby took inspiration from it and Deltarune is both a sequel and prequel to Undertale by virtue of Weird Time Shit.

I don't think Deltarune and Undertale are related by linear timelines. As an example, Sans only first meets Toriel in Deltarune when he moves into town while in Undertale he doesn't know her until meeting her in Home when everyone comes to stop Asgore and Frisk from fighting.

Not to mention some other stuff that doesn't track. Undyne has two eyes and doesn't know Alphys (could only be well before Undertale), and Gerson is dead (could only be well after Undertale).

Edited by Enlong on Dec 9th 2018 at 7:19:23 AM

Oh my god.

Wait are people just now finding out about this? I would have thought someone would have thought to do this before.

Edited by LordVatek on Dec 14th 2018 at 10:52:51 AM

I'm pretty sure this is something that's been known about for a while. At the very least, I distinctly remember Markiplier unintentionally doing it during his livestream (though he didn't take advantage of it).

About timlines...yeah I will said both afect each other and the brige the two is clearly Gaster and Sans, there also theories that Sans is a darker which can make sort of sense.

TCC second area boss!

Kenny Omega of New Japan Pro Wrestling fame somehow got Toby and Temmie to make a video for him that would of played before an upcoming event called Wrestle Kingdom 13 but was denied for whatever reason. It's kind of stupid but here it is, anyway.

Right off the bat, I have a problem with the usage of the "word" "irregardless".

That said, that was amazing.