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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#9301: Oct 31st 2020 at 1:49:45 PM

We should probably put a hold on it.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#9302: Oct 31st 2020 at 2:24:33 PM

And now we have Adaptational Rank rogue launched by Anicomicgeek

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#9303: Oct 31st 2020 at 3:05:39 PM

I think Adult Hater has been rogue launched before too, so it may also need a hold.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#9305: Oct 31st 2020 at 3:39:47 PM

By the way, Christian Bethel 3 is a long term troll and should have been banned further (same username with a new number is too obvious to not mention).

Edited by Piterpicher on Oct 31st 2020 at 11:48:59 AM

Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#9306: Oct 31st 2020 at 4:33:56 PM

I think Brutal Bird of Prey, Jurassic Farce, and Savage Spinosaurs were all stealth-launched. The sponsor, ~Nathanoraptor, is the one who launched them, but there doesn't seem to have been much recent discussion or consensus on whether they were ready. (Only Jurassic Farce has any indication of asking about a launch, and that was over two weeks ago with no response.)

Edited by mightymewtron on Oct 31st 2020 at 7:34:46 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#9307: Oct 31st 2020 at 4:35:13 PM

I noticed that too.

...And they're not crosswicked.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#9309: Oct 31st 2020 at 5:35:37 PM

Is today International Bad TLP Launch Day?

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Nathanoraptor Since: Oct, 2010
#9311: Nov 1st 2020 at 2:41:45 AM

How do I get permission to launch a trope? Because I thought it was just "three days and five net hats", all of which the tropes I launched yesterday met.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#9312: Nov 1st 2020 at 2:55:49 AM

1 day notice in title at least, before launch.

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AlexThePrettyGood Could be worse from Feeding the cat Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Could be worse
#9313: Nov 1st 2020 at 7:36:39 AM

Practical question, will Defiant Strip stay up or will it be sent back to TLP? It looks like got missed in the clean-up of the other rogue launches yesterday.

It doesn't look bad, there were no serious concerns raised in TLP and it's already attracting a lot of edits (seems like Everybody Remembers the Stripper) so I'm curious whether I can already add my samples to the trope or wait until it's back in TLP.

Everything can be found on the Internet... except common sense.
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Lost in Space
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#9315: Nov 1st 2020 at 10:42:45 AM

Is Our Slashers Are Different a stealth-launch? It was launched by the sponsor, but their only post in the proposal outside of the OP is stating some fixes were made. There aren't any standing issues going by posts made after that, so the only thing missing was an announcement of intent to launch, unless it was in the OP and edited out prior to launch? Like Defiant Strip, however, it seems to be going along fine otherwise.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 1st 2020 at 10:43:40 AM

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#9316: Nov 1st 2020 at 11:01:01 AM

I think Too Old to Trick-or-Treat was launched with too little warning too (less than 24 hours) but I shrugged it off because it's doing fine and the sponsor did give some notice, which is more than I can say for 95% of the cases here.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Serac she/her Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#9317: Nov 1st 2020 at 11:13:53 AM

I don't see any kind of notice in the edit history for the Our Slashers Are Different draft, and the fact that it was launched the instant that the option became available feels rather impatient. In fact, did it even spend three days on TLP? It could just be time zone weirdness, but my computer says it was posted two days ago.

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#9318: Nov 1st 2020 at 11:44:51 AM

Also, if the description outright says slashers aren't inherently a type of monster, or even a fantasy creature, is it even accurate to use the Our Monsters Are Different snowclone and describe it as a subtrope? I'm surprised this never came up in the draft comments.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#9320: Nov 1st 2020 at 2:35:49 PM

Okay, is there a way to unlaunch tropes without deleting perfectly valid examples like the Terminator one?

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#9321: Nov 1st 2020 at 2:38:00 PM

You can go to the draft and re-pitch the example there.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#9322: Nov 1st 2020 at 2:51:00 PM

It wasn't mine. I'm saying when multiple people contribute to a draft after it's been launched, perhaps we shouldn't be in a hurry to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#9323: Nov 1st 2020 at 3:03:33 PM

Maybe the launcher could follow the rules and we wouldn't have to have these conversations.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#9324: Nov 1st 2020 at 3:33:32 PM

Well I only launched it because it said I could at the bottom of the page. I assumed that meant it had been approved.

This is notably the first time I've submitted a page through this system. I apologize for my mistake.

I only found out about this system a few days ago.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 1st 2020 at 3:35:36 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#9325: Nov 1st 2020 at 3:35:47 PM

From what I can tell (and as sgamer pointed out above) the only rule they apparently did not follow was declaring an intent to launch. From TLP Guidelines (emphasis added):

It is good manners but not required to notify others that you are planning to launch a trope soon.

Perhaps that needs to be rewritten, perhaps not.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"

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