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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

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Berrenta MOD How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#7426: Oct 15th 2019 at 10:02:39 AM

Update on the crowner for Armor Meter Points: Calling in favor of split.

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 15th 2019 at 12:05:28 PM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#7427: Oct 15th 2019 at 10:53:08 AM

Cool. How are we doing this, make new TLP-s? Or just make new pages with Mod Powers?

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#7428: Oct 15th 2019 at 9:47:34 PM

Pardon to interrupt again, but after half a year of adding examples with context, may I request to release the hold for Yellow/Purple Contrast draft?

[down]Thanks.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Oct 16th 2019 at 10:32:49 PM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#7430: Oct 16th 2019 at 7:53:32 PM

Perhaps just a minor problem with Guard Stations Terminally Unattended, but:

  • It's true that it has incorporated "heroic" examples (as inversions), but perhaps the description could be rewritten to cover the "heroic" concept better.
  • It doesn't have enough examples yet.
  • Is "Terminally Unattended" really apt to describe the trope?

What do you think?

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MrL1193 Since: Apr, 2013
#7431: Oct 17th 2019 at 4:30:19 AM

[up] Definitely not a fan of the name. It's long and clumsy, and my initial impression from it was something related to The Guards Must Be Crazy.

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#7432: Oct 19th 2019 at 10:43:38 PM

Sesame Street/International Coproductions has not yet been prematurely launched, but it has 5 hats despite only two people commenting on the draft and being nothing but a list of "[Name], the [country] coproduction". I'm concerned.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#7433: Oct 23rd 2019 at 3:29:22 AM

So, what's the process for splitting Armor Meter Points?

Make sandboxes for each trope and take them to the Locked Pages thread for creation, when complete?

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#7434: Oct 23rd 2019 at 5:40:50 AM

That's acceptable.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#7435: Oct 23rd 2019 at 1:34:00 PM

Made Sandbox.Armor Meter and Sandbox.Armor Points. Totally not complete yet, need to add context on precisely how the meters and points are represented.

And change the descriptions up between them.

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#7436: Oct 24th 2019 at 3:16:12 PM

So what do you guys think of unlaunching Guard Stations Terminally Unattended?

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#7437: Oct 28th 2019 at 6:02:51 PM

The Final Timeline — a new stab fanfic page. Notifier sent.

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#7439: Oct 31st 2019 at 12:30:30 AM

[up]I reverted it to the original state and transferred the edits to the draft.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#7440: Nov 1st 2019 at 2:57:50 PM

I think Medieval Universal Literacy was rogue-launched again, even if it was the OP this time. They ignore the Up for Grabs rules, they announced the launch in mere hours, and they are quite rude in the comments. They abandoned the draft for years and now they have ownership issues...

It probably doesn't warrant another un-launch, but I thought I would mention it.

ETA: The page was launched with a Zero-Context Example with bad Example Indentation. Also, there are six examples of Averted Trope, which is basically non-use. Aversions are notable only for omnipresent tropes... which this one is not. Perhaps it was too soon for launch?

~Zarpaulus

Edited by XFllo on Nov 1st 2019 at 11:23:35 AM

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#7441: Nov 1st 2019 at 5:05:03 PM

Bump.

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#7442: Nov 1st 2019 at 6:53:33 PM

I have to agree; they even snapped at Xfllo for "fighting their battles for them" (in reality just asking Chabal to use goddamn namespaces, which is a valid complaint regardless of who's draft it's voiced on, but I digress).

Those ownership issues and refusal to edit the description is very worrying.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#7443: Nov 2nd 2019 at 7:35:39 AM

Sesame Street International Coproductions has been rogue-launched.

TLP. There was still an ongoing discussion about what the page should look like, what kind of index it would be etc.

wingedcatgirl called it.

alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#7444: Nov 2nd 2019 at 8:47:50 AM

[up]Bumping on Sesame Street International Coproductions. Not even I am sure on what is this. If this is an index on the international versions of Sesame Street, then all of them should be namespaced. It's not even bulleted.

[up][up]Also, what to do with Medieval Universal Literacy? The OP seems to have violated some protocol on the guidelines, even relaunching the draft hours after it was rogue launched the first time. Seems to be in a rush on launching this without a good reason just to launch it.

[down]Check on Xfllo's comment regarding the matter. Also the comment section on the draft.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Nov 3rd 2019 at 12:05:16 AM

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#7446: Nov 2nd 2019 at 9:14:32 AM

For reference, here's the draft for Medieval Universal Literacy, since I don't think anyone linked to it after the most recent launch. This comment struck me as particularly rude.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 2nd 2019 at 11:17:41 AM

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#7447: Nov 2nd 2019 at 9:48:43 AM

What's wrong with Medieval Universal Literacy exactly?

See here above.

This is how it went down.

  • the OP wrote the draft in 2013, but it was abandoned in 2014 (later stated that for this reason: "I don't appreciate people launching my YKTT Ws, even if I set them aside years ago from the constant nitpicking.")
  • it was bumped in the TLP salvage/discard project
  • there was some discussion and it collected hats without improvements on the draft description
  • nobody claimed it for launch or announced the launch
  • it got rogue-launched and un-launched
  • OP noticed his draft got launched
  • their attitude: 'nobody touches my thing' & 'I don't appreciate others nitpicking' & 'I will launch it myself for real this time' (implied 'as quickly as possible so that nobody manages to provide more annoying feedback that I would have to deal with')
  • their waiting period: 8 hours
  • the launched page has 6 Averted Tropes (non)examples, but it's not an omnipresent trope, so the examples are not very notable
  • minor issue: there was one ZCE with wrong example indentation upon launch
  • even less relevant: I thought the OP was really rude to me for no particular reason; really I just bumped a 5-year-old draft because I thought it's an okay, tropeworthy concept and I hoped someone would adopt it. Then I wrote a comment to another contributor to use correct formatting, namely namespaces, which angered the OP

Personally I don't think it has to be unlaunched, but zarpaulus should be reminded of Up for Grabs policy. And we should decide what to do with the averted examples.

Edited by XFllo on Nov 2nd 2019 at 5:51:10 PM

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zarpaulus Since: Jan, 2001
#7449: Nov 2nd 2019 at 11:40:20 AM

XFllo: I admit, I was a bit rude to you, but you were rather rude to Chabal 2 here, and I don't need you to fight my battles for me.

You could very tell from the "last edited by" tag that I was editing the draft again after it was bumped.

So tell me, what makes you all think it was incomplete?

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#7450: Nov 2nd 2019 at 11:49:50 AM

For one, the description was poor, but you only called the complaints against it "nitpicking".

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