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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#4676: Jan 21st 2017 at 10:56:36 PM

Bust Chart has few wicks and admits that it is sometimes Bonus Material. Should it be brought to the trivia thread for adding it to trivia?

Mentioning it here primarily for the few wicks issue.

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Chabal2 Since: Jan, 2010
#4677: Jan 22nd 2017 at 1:49:55 AM

Everyone Gets Their Turn has only one example and 10 wicks (probably never went through YKTTW).

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#4678: Jan 22nd 2017 at 7:42:38 AM

It did go through TLP (back when it was YKTTW), years ago. We'll need to check the wicks to see if it needs to be sent to TRS.

Edit: Looks like half of the wicks are indices. Yep, not really salvageable.

edited 22nd Jan '17 7:44:58 AM by Berrenta

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Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4679: Jan 22nd 2017 at 10:32:24 AM

To be specific, of the 10 wicks : 6 indexes, 2 correct uses (one of which is the on page example), one aversion (not Ominpresent so invalid), 1 pothole in an incorrect context.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4680: Jan 22nd 2017 at 12:42:03 PM

[up][up] I am almost positive that both of those came up here before.

In terms of EGTT, that's absolutely a Trope. 100%. It is borderline omnipresent, though.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#4681: Jan 22nd 2017 at 6:32:03 PM

TheFallOfLittleRedRidingHood.The Fallof Little Red Riding Hood was recently created by a new account with a bunch of formatting problems plus a google search suggests it has explicit content

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4682: Jan 23rd 2017 at 1:06:50 AM

It needs to be reformatted and put into the correct namespace.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#4683: Jan 23rd 2017 at 4:33:33 AM

And yes, definitely explicit content. Policy is to only have pages for that if there's established literary value, right?

SeptimusHeap MOD from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4684: Jan 23rd 2017 at 5:13:48 AM

No, policy is that works which are pure porno or paedo-pandering are cut. "Explicit content" on its own does not add much in either direction.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#4685: Jan 23rd 2017 at 5:32:10 AM

Ah. Well, given the first several sites that come up searching for the name are places like ehentai.org... although I'll admit that I didn't do much clicking through once finding that, so maybe the story has more merit than I think.

sailing101 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4686: Jan 23rd 2017 at 12:56:46 PM

Creator's Pest contains a bit of a stub description, and there was no overall agreement to launch in the TLP thread yet.

edited 23rd Jan '17 12:58:02 PM by sailing101

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#4687: Jan 23rd 2017 at 5:42:24 PM

The description of Gentle Touch vs. Firm Hand is a bit wordy and confusing. It's a dichotomy trope in which one mentor uses a Gentle Touch and the other uses a Firm Hand, I think. The description says "This dichotomy most often rears its head when" but it's not explicit with the "two mentors / parental figures / authority figures / etc."

The real life example (the one that isn't vague) only includes the Gentle Touch teaching method (it's from the draft, too), so I think the description needs help clarifying whether it's a duo trope or what.

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#4688: Jan 24th 2017 at 8:40:23 PM

The Fall of Little Red Riding Hood: If there's concern, why not sandbox the page's contents and then run the title through P5. If it's kept, the cleaned-up content can be transferrered to the correct page, and if it's booted, easy cut.

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#4689: Jan 25th 2017 at 2:45:10 AM

Weird. A TLP named Social Cyberpunk was launched half a year ago, yet the main page is empty without a cutlist notice.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4690: Jan 25th 2017 at 6:25:05 AM

Jackpot Knockout is in desperate need of examples. Definitely a trope, but it only has 2 good examples and 1 ZCE.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4691: Jan 25th 2017 at 7:22:49 AM

[up][up] I think it may have been discarded, given how much of a mess that TLP is.

At least I hope it wasn't launched, what with only having a net 3 hats.

edited 25th Jan '17 7:29:43 AM by Larkmarn

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TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#4693: Jan 28th 2017 at 2:35:55 AM

BreakingTrail.Nightmare Fuel and Characters.Stuff Blowing Up don't have much in the way of content it is hard to see if they are related to anything

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4694: Jan 28th 2017 at 6:22:12 AM

Character pages for tropes are nonsensical and spam by their very nature. That other page reverses the title and namespace, so it's garbage too. I'd cutlist them but there's a friggin' huge backlog already. I'll bring it up in ATT.

EDIT: Backlog reduced. Will send these promptly.

edited 28th Jan '17 7:42:41 AM by Theatre_Maven_3695

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4695: Jan 30th 2017 at 1:30:49 PM

Where They Were isn't very strong in any regards. I'm not entirely sure what it's describing, either, but it was made in 2008.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#4696: Feb 1st 2017 at 6:46:54 PM

I recently stumbled across Dracula: the Musical that may be in the wrong namespace but I don't know enough about the work to be sure.and it could use a ZCE cleanup too

sailing101 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4697: Feb 1st 2017 at 9:05:48 PM

Buzzsaw Projectile was launched before a description longer than a laconic could be written.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4698: Feb 2nd 2017 at 6:01:03 AM

Also my concern that it's just "this weapon exists" was completely unaddressed. There's an entire thread on cleaning up "this weapon exists" and this trope (especially given its stubby nature) is just "this exists."

At least they changed the name.

edited 2nd Feb '17 6:01:25 AM by Larkmarn

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Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4699: Feb 2nd 2017 at 2:07:29 PM

Dracula The Musical should be under Theatre/ . The Music/ namespace was likely attached because the troper that made it wasn't aware of the former 'space's existence.

edited 2nd Feb '17 2:07:55 PM by Theatre_Maven_3695

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4700: Feb 2nd 2017 at 2:55:11 PM

I came across Dracula The Musical the other day — don't know how I missed the namespace!

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