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Why is that?
Because when said evil fell to Earth, it did in fact make a pit, a Pit of Hate, you could call it.
Oh yeah...that makes sense.
Disasturbator
Would be funnier if it made to space having spawned on Earth only to fall back down again!
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Side note: According to the Samurai Jack Wiki, the Pit of Hate is the realm the Black Mass came from.
When Aku is created he emerges from the Black Mass but I don't think the Black Mass goes away entirely. It's possible there's still some of it sitting in a puddle underground. Presumably that became the pit.
The King Without a Kingdom
He probably didn't set up shop in Hell itself because he didn't want all his subjects to melt before they get to him. That's just my guess.
It's been 3000 years…
Since IDW Publishing is now doing Sonic the Hedgehog comics, what if they did a crossover miniseries with Samurai Jack?
Here's an article of Gennedy explaining the show's ending
. I (along with many fans of this show) don't like the ending, but it was nice to read things from Gennedy's perspective.
It also reminds me of the ending of Ed, Edd n Eddy's Big Picture Show . People talked about how Jonny was beaten up by the kids and how he didn't deserve it. By allowing every single one of the kids to be accepted by the kids, then the show wouldn't stay true to it's purpose (of it being a Sadist Show).
Before reading that, Ed Edd n Eddy seems to me to have an ending that both provides closure and rounds out its overall themes, coming full circle. The Ed's schemes finally went too far and the kids were going to rip them apart over it. Logical progression. Double D and Eddy had a fight because, finally, the abuse Eddy exhibited went too far. This made their friendship stronger. The Ed's were always looking for appreciation, to fit in. They got it. Double D even points this out in the second-to-last scene when they're being pulled away.
Samurai Jack? Well, he did get home. He did save everybody. And truth be told I don't remember too many episodes where Jack actually contemplated what going back to the past meant beyond "stopping Aku and setting right what once went wrong." The only times he deviated were when he was brainwashed, that I recall. So why did the ending feel so... mean-spirited and lackluster?
I've frequently suggested endings I'd have preferred, ones that hearkened back to aspects of the series I missed. Say what you want about nostalgia, but what they did with the Scotsman, Scaramouche, Demongo, and Ashi? Waste of time and poor pacing if you ask me. But even without that input, I'd argue that Ed Edd n Eddy paid far more attention to its fundamentals than Samurai Jack did, and was a far more rewarding conclusion for it. So, what do you say to that Tarkatovosky?
...ah shit.
“I feel like we would be cheating if everything was happy and perfect at the end,” Tartakovsky said. “It didn’t feel right. We thought about it, for sure. ‘Why don’t we give it a happy ending?’ Instinctively, we knew that it would be wrong.”
The finale is something that Tartakovsky thought about for years. It was the true ending he wanted to give the determined samurai back in 2004 when the show ended on Cartoon Network. The reaction to the finale, however, wasn’t as overwhelmingly positive as Tartakovsky would have liked.
People were generally mixed, but there were complaints that after a season blueprinted to end on a climactic, cathartic note, the 30-minute episode felt rushed. Fans noted that the episode could have used extra time for the team to stretch out the story. For the most part, the creator agrees.
“I think I’m happy with the way it came out, at the end of the day,” Tartakovsky said. “Yes, it could have been longer. It was one of those things where there was so much to say, you want to give every character there spotlight and each moment to last. I don’t know if people were upset that it wasn’t a happy ending, but I think it’s successful that people either loved it or hated it. They were talking about it. I never wanted to return to Samurai Jack and do something that’s in the middle.
“I said everything I wanted to say.”
Man, I get that. I get that.
But there was a better way to get there.
> kill Scaramouche
> have the Scotsman actually die and don't push a Hope Spot with his daughter and their army
> don't waste an episode on Jack and Ashi metaphorically getting it on
> explain Ashi's fading away early, hint at it so it's not just a Wham Moment
There! That's me not harping on how The Guardian shoulda been there. The first four episodes were perfect and set the tone!
Oh well. At least he's happy with it and this story was concluded. I almost expected Jack would never get home and there'd never be a continuation.
edited 2nd Apr '18 8:22:42 AM by Soble
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I agree with your input on the Ed, Edd n Eddy ending. The thing that made it less sad for Jonny was the fact that the kids never liked him that much sometimes.
The Samurai Jack ending must have come off as mean-spirited because it felt like a waste of time for Jack to fall in love with a girl after having many bad experiences with women (with some of them being Aku in disguise or related to him). It came off as an awful Yank the Dog's Chain, and it was also like working so hard on building a model skyscraper with toothpicks, and then purposely knocking them over to prove a point.
I even remember seeing a comment on Youtube today on this video today about how Jack should have listened to Inner Jack when he told the former to just abandon Ashi and find an exit, and that it would have saved the show from having a sad Bittersweet Ending. Many people even complained that Jack shouldn't have had a love interest as well.
With Jack going back to the past, an episode that actually put more depth in this was the episode "Jack Remember The Past" when we get a glance of Jack's childhood before Aku took over and enslaved everybody. The first episode of season 5 also has Jack hallucinate about the people he failed to rescue due to the fact that all the time portals were gone and there was no way for Jack to return (just yet).
I find it funny (and really ridiculous) that fans of Samurai Jack created a petition for Gennedy to make an alternate ending. While it didn't warrant a petition, I do like the idea of having two alternate endings. One with the Gods rewarding Ashi to Jack and they have a happy ending & another ending that explains what happened to Jack's allies he made in the future and the people who were negatively affected by Aku.
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Disasturbator
Sounds more like Rule of Drama to me,not everyone wants to write a happy ending
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Snow Ghost
No happy endings?
What a guy!
Too bad the ending wasn't written better.
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I really don't see the problem with the ending or with the explanation. I admit it could've been better but I still don't really get all the hate over everything.
edited 2nd Apr '18 5:35:48 PM by AdricDePsycho
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Disasturbator
it's just that everything that Jack went through,everyone he knew in the future were erased when Aku was defeated,of course multiple timelines might be a thing,but Ashi being erased too is so unfair damn
edited 2nd Apr '18 5:42:08 PM by Ultimatum
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Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
I mean I guess but I just really don't see all the fuss.
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Snow Ghost
Ashi should've been erased sooner...
No need for the dramatics...of ripping apart Jack's heart during a wedding.
edited 2nd Apr '18 5:59:38 PM by randomness4
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Disasturbator
Complaining about "unfair" when everything about the situation was already unfair never made any sense to me.
Samurai Jack was at least always a kind of dark and bittersweet show about one man's turmoil, and I'm sure many saw Ashi's 'death' coming a mile away since she was created from Aku. The bigger problem came from the rushed nature of Season Five, and since Ashi didn't appear in the pre-cancellation episodes, it looks like she brought in for that mere element (and a possible quick way to end the series) even if Tartakovsky had in fact thought it over long beforehand.
Tartakovsky had a habit before of sticking in superfluous Downer Endings in light hearted cartoons for the sake of Mood Whiplash. The first Koosie episode of Dexter's Laboratory for example or the infamous Bunny episode of The Powerpuff Girls. I think he's a guy that likes his melancholy moments, at least Samurai Jack was more fitting for it.
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Like, if we're talking the season being rushed, then yeah, I agree. If we're talking Ashi dying, then I get this impression that people view Ashi as a trophy for Jack to earn happiness from, which unsettles me slightly. Of course that's in relation to only one specific criticism of her death, the others I've heard are "It's ripping off Gurren Lagann" (no comment, have never watched that show) or "it was too cliched and dramatic" (which, fair point and I can concede to that).
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Do you someone to explain the Gurren Lagann comment or is it not that important, either way you were already spoiled a bit.
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Somebody dies at a wedding and I'm assuming it's Simon's girlfriend, that's the gist of what I know. Not like I'm gonna watch Gurren Lagann anyways, the weird gay stereotype in there turned me off of ever watching it.
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edited 26th Mar '18 1:46:58 PM by LSBK