The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Going back a bit: Webcomic.Roommates2009 would be the same as Fanfic.Roommates2009. It's a fan comic. I can say nothing more about its liability for cutting, since I haven't read it.

As for Nanas Everyday Life... it's not porn, just the blackest of Black Comedy. The only reason I could see for cutting it would be that it has a couple of instances of a pre-teen girl being raped, though the rape isn't played for eroticism or shown as good/neutral. It's just part of the "Nana's life is hell on earth" set-up, same as the non-sexual abuse she goes through.

edited 29th May '12 2:01:49 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

Reported Ilsa She Wolf Of The SS. I don't know if it's bad enough to get a cut, but it definitely should get the stub-and-lock treatment IMO.

edited 29th May '12 12:49:04 PM by AGroupie

I think it's Banned in my country for being Nazploitation porn.

To be totally fair, your country also banned the uncut version of The Evil Dead until 2001. Not saying Ilsa isn't horrible, just that that isn't the most damning of evidence.

Ew... Nazisploitation porn...

Actually, Ilsa is still banned, even though all those others aren't. And Man Hunt 2 was censored but not banned. The Human Centipede 2 was banned for being, essentially, scat porn.

edited 29th May '12 1:17:04 PM by TheOneWhoTropes

I added "Red Light Center". From our description: Red Light Center is an X-rated sandbox MMORPG. Half of the tropes listed are sex tropes, and apparently, there are various game mechanics that allow characters to have explicit sex (according to Wikipedia). On the other hand, some people seem to use it as a kind of social network/Second Life thing...

Not surprisingly, nobody even considered importing Ilsa to Germany... I guess this would have been the fastest banning decision ever.

edited 29th May '12 1:32:24 PM by jkbeta

Red Light Center as far as I can tell is a crappy porn based second life knock off.

I agree that Red Light Center should be cut. And possibly Second Life itself should be at least monitored if not locked or cut, as in the reason 95% of its players use it is for furry porn.

It is ridiculous to cut Second Life because someone uses it for porn. It's a sandbox game — hell, you could create giant pornographic artwork in Minecraft if you are determined enough; it doesn't make the game itself porn.

The idea of Second Life being cut for content violations is idiotic.

edited 29th May '12 2:05:04 PM by Fighteer

I think thats an might be an exaggeration also being furry is not relevant.

edited 29th May '12 2:06:13 PM by Shadis

Monitoring? Sure.

Locking? Cutting? Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

Hell, I could draw penises in Microsoft Paint. Let's ban that, too!

edited 29th May '12 2:14:35 PM by Fighteer

Once upon a time you could get an achievement for getting your penis creature banned in Spore. Kill it with fire!

(note: very much Sarcasm Mode.)

I agree that cutting Second Life for porn would be ridiculous . I think it needs to be cleaned, to be absolutely sincere, but Red Light Center definitely needs to be cut. And BTW, I didn't report Second Life, so if it shows up, that's not mine.

edited 29th May '12 2:45:10 PM by AGroupie

I don't where else to ask so...

I found that Monster Girl Quest still has a review page. Should that be deleted or moved?

If its a review of a cut work get rid of it.

Yeah, it was cut, but its name was redirected to another page. Mostly I was asking because I don't know how cutting a review page works and I think a mod would have to do it.

The review is about the bad game, so it should be cut. I'm not sure how cutting a review works either.

Frankly, IMO, if the reviews are tacky and prurient, yeah, it should probably be hosed, but after reading it, it mostly centered on the aspects of the gameplay and story (which I found accurate, having played the game myself [and having found it to have surprising depth despite its premise] and honestly enjoying the story and gameplay far more than the hentai, which the review mostly centers on), and I felt it stayed relatively decent.

I'd argue it should be kept.

P.S. - Frankly, I'd have argued for the original page on Monster Girl Quest to be kept (given it was Porn with Plot [surprisingly heavy on the plot] and Gameplay and Story Integration ratio to porn), albeit cleaned a la the Sengoku Rance page just to be safe, but that's unfortunately a dead subject.

edited 29th May '12 7:53:42 PM by Rpgingmaster

Monster Girl Quest wasn't cut for porn, but pedophilia. The standards are very different for the two and, given what was found, the chances of it coming back are nil.

edited 29th May '12 8:06:54 PM by LargoQuagmire

I see.

Frankly, I have to admit the game was skating on thin ice regarding shotacon (the main protagonist looks like one depending on the art style), not to mention at least one non explicit section that clearly portrays a relationship that is Shotacon in nature (it's actually a relationship between a mermaid and a legal adult who looks like a child via magic, but the shotacon argument still invariably applies.)

BTW, since the fate of the reviews are up in the air, I provided a review of my own that is as clean as humanly possible given the work, just in case we can keep the reviews.

If not, I won't complain if it's hosed.

P.S. - On a related note, why does TV Tropes endorse the term "pedoshit"?

It's a clear reference to pedophilia, which both IRL in any form and in any fictional work blatantly glorifying it as an unquestioned good is so reprehensible and disgusting I agree wholeheartedly it should die with extreme prejudice.

However, I believe the term itself is no better. Yes, pedophilia is a very special kind of evil and we are trying to keep this website family friendly, a mission I wholeheartedly support, but do we have to refer to pedophilia with a blunt curse word, just to hammer the point home it's disgusting?

In short, if things have to die because they are pedophilic in nature, I'd rather that be listed as opposed to using such crude profanity.

Besides, we already know pedophilia is a hideous blight which we must eliminate in the most There Is No Kill Like Overkill manner possible, so further demonization is just overly crude, IMO.

Note: If I'm in error about TV Tropes endorsing this term or I don't understand why it's endorsed, I would be willing to hear something clearing up any confusion on my part.

edited 29th May '12 8:31:41 PM by Rpgingmaster

@3964: The Mating Frenzy never gets explicit. There's even more innuendo, and people actually managing to have sex with each other starts happening, but it's never on-screen. I couldn't figure out why I saw it called out as being Porn Without Plot, because that just doesn't make sense for a work that contains no porn.

Time Braid and Chunin Exam Day are also in the list, though neither has any explicit sexual content that I can recall.

Time Braid might be on the list because of how there's technically sex involving minors? I say technically because it's a "Groundhog Day" Loop and the characters are mentally aged up before any sex occurs, although some characters are not caught up in the loop either. It really takes up a minuscule part in the story, though. I would confidently say that it is not pedopandering (for what my opinion is worth). I can give a better review of it if necessary, though.

^^^ The only one to really endorse the word is Martello, as he believes pedo-pandering, despite being self explanatory, doesn't have enough "punch". Many have already voiced their dislike for the non-word.

edited 29th May '12 9:30:20 PM by Spirit