The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

ANN rates its content as being "intense", and that a major theme is "ecchi", which seems in line with the assessment that people are stripped of their clothing gradually. It hasn't been released in the US, far as I can tell, and doesn't appear to be streaming on Crunchyroll. It'd be nice to find ANYTHING on this series beyond our wiki and The Other Wiki...

I think the threshold for porn is pretty high but the pedo-bait is likely worth investigating,

which I don't think you mentioned it in your first post witch no offense sounded to me like "this isn't porn but its icky and I don't like it."

The Other Wiki has the demographic listed as Shounen, which I'd wager is roughly the same age as the characters, so it can't really be called pedo-pandering. So really the only major factor is the porn/fanservice vs non-porn/fanservice ratio.

Back from a few days of being very busy IRL. Glad to see everything's going more or less as smoothly as it did before I got preoccupied.

@tdgoodrich 1: I thought we're supposed to say "stricken" instead of "zap".

Also about Little Ego is that its description is like copy+pasted from Wikipedia.

I ran into it on one of the many "watch anime online free" sites. I'll see if I can dig up a link. Here. The anilinkz site has several episodes. Update: Shadis you were correct that I didn't elaborate as I should have, and for that, I apologize. In my defense, I am very, very tired and it took me some time to gather my thoughts. First, the issue of the precedents: I cited the Strike Witches discussion and Kanokon flags not because they were successful but because they were treated as edge cases. Kanokon currently has one devil and one angel vote. Strike Witches was given its own topic and declared borderline by the mods. I consider both to be guilty of lesser violations of the pedo-bait rule than Ultimate Girls is guilty of. Kanokon is about a boy who meets a girl, becomes attached, and gets sucked into a world beyond his ken. The fanservice and sexual content, while pushing it for people that age, can be seen as irrelevant to the plot. In Strike Witches, if you gave the girls pants, you would have a worthwhile anime about World War II pilots. This cannot be said of Ultimate Girls. In Ultimate Girls, the titillation aspect is worked into the premise of the anime. The girls are named by their breast sizes. Their clothes disappear as they fight, and their powers are fueled by "embarrassment". In order to transform, they have to grab onto a phallic rod that extends from an explicitly male flying saucer-like being. The pedo-bait stems from the, for lack of a better term "flat-chested", teammate. She engages in cosplay and is an explicit exhibitionist. She's shorter than the other girls, and, as mentioned previously, is named for what she lacks. Regardless of her age or the age of her compatriots, it's clear that this anime fetishizes its subjects. Moreover, without the fanservice, the plot ceases to exist.

edited 24th May '12 2:53:16 PM by DarkSovereign

Firstly, thanks for your input - I remember seeing that page for Ultimate Girls. Probably worth looking into.

Secondly, with regards to your invocation of the Miller Test (as much as we'd like to see Mark Millar get sued by the state of California, this is not within the purview of 5P), I'd just like to clarify that the Miller Test is used to determine if a work is "obscene", or not under the protection of the First Amendment. The site is holding itself to a stricter standard to determine what's acceptable to the community (and not necessarily the nation).

In the case of TV Tropes, the 5P is supposed to be a surrogate for the "average person, applying contemporary community standards" - or a fancier way of saying that we hope they know it when they see it.

edited 24th May '12 4:32:36 PM by Pyrite

About Ebichu - it's a comedy where you don't see anything. There's really dirty jokes but dang, even the word pussy is edited out in Japanese. And the school uniform fetish is a thing and is not pedo at all. See Sexy School Woman for the western explanation.

Is that a rename? Probably for the best

Nope, looks like a redirect. Main page still reads Catholic School Girls Rule.

Ah (I was on my phone and couldn't easily follow it). Could be a questionable name. To the TRS-mobile!

*snrk*

edited 25th May '12 6:10:55 AM by Nohbody

Is said gator anthropomorphic?

^ Out of morbid curiosity, I looked it up. No, the gator wasn't anthromoporphic, other than a desire to mate with a human.

Oh. THEN EYE DISS AH PROOF

@Pyrite: Isn't "Catholic School Girls Rule" a dialogue-like name, and thus falls afoul of the ban/moratorium on such names?

The pedo-bait stems from the, for lack of a better term "flat-chested", teammate. She engages in cosplay and is an explicit exhibitionist. She's shorter than the other girls, and, as mentioned previously, is named for what she lacks.

That's as lousy an idea as these guys. Having a character who looks younger because she hasn't developed doesn't mean she's pedo-bait unless there's actually some reason to believe that the character is younger. There's a reason that A-Cup Angst is a trope.

First, a created character and a real person are not comparable on this issue. A real woman doesn't have too many options when it comes to changing cup size, and one can't control who will find one attractive. A created character is created and designed for specific reasons, and in the case of this anime, titillation (and "humor") seems the most likely. Second, I don't agree with the content restrictions or necessarily agree with how they're being carried out, but FE's site, FE's rules. I judged Ultimate Girls to be a good edge case, as other pages were examined for (as I see it) less.

That's a fair point. You're not likely to create a character like that without reason. Maybe it's an essential plot point. Maybe it's a source of (non-creepy) humor. Or maybe your motives aren't so wholesome as that. But cartoonists aren't likely to make their characters physical outliers "just because."

And in such cases, the artist has earned varying degrees of benefit of the doubt, based on stuff like his other output, customary audience, etc.

If the Image Links page for Levitating Lotus Position shows up in the P5 queue, zap it; it's a misclick.

Consider it zapped.

Now... to those who've read it, is Cute Idiotic Couple pornography?

It shouldn't be too hard to find online.

-searches-

-finds it on Danbooru-

Porn. -__- (No, not because it's on Danbooru).

edited 25th May '12 12:38:15 PM by lu127

Well the hentai site that has everything is lacking this one, also cant seem to find it else were and the page is a stub.

I see page is a stub anyway probably worth cutting because of that alone.

edited 25th May '12 12:41:15 PM by Shadis

No, it's not porn. There's some ecchi-ish stuff, but nothing explicit.

Here it is.