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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:27:59 PM

The current Rape Tropes index has been cited as having problematic names that interfere with our ad revenue. Thus, it has been generally agreed that any trope names that encourage the attitude of rape being acceptable need to be renamed. The discussion took place here where there is ongoing discussion over what else we should do regarding the subject.

We will begin with the Rape Tropes index and look for any titles that seem to be overly endorsing of the subject matter such as the Rape Is Okay clone family and Rape Is Love.

First five titles to be considered:

edited 6th Apr '12 2:28:56 PM by Arha

Apr 6th 2012 at 2:29:28 PM

Let's tackle the "Rape is OK" tropes first

I now go by Graf von Tirol.
Apr 6th 2012 at 2:31:10 PM

That's also an acceptable place to start as those are very problematic names.

Here is a sandbox where we will list the names that need to be addressed.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Apr 6th 2012 at 2:31:31 PM

I think Rape Is Okay When It Is Female On Male would do well as Double Standard Rape or something similar.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:32:06 PM by lu127

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:32:07 PM

Maybe change it to "Its Not Rape If X"? It's not much better, but its all I can think of.

[up] Or that.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:32:42 PM by Discar

Apr 6th 2012 at 2:33:29 PM

Double Standard Rape is a good name for a supertrope, but how will it address the subtropes it encompasses?

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:33:32 PM

[up]x4 I would suggest repurpose those into Sexual Harrasment Is Ok When It Is Female On Male or Sexual Harrasment Is Funny When It Is Female On Male and such because that is the typical form of this trope not rape.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:34:04 PM by Raso

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:33:53 PM

Abusively Sexy is such a terrible name, holy hell.

I can't blame Google for jumping on that and I'm guilty of not bringing it up sooner.

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:34:17 PM

My ideas would be to have titles that distance ourselves from the tropes.

E.g. "Abuse Depicted as Sexy" for example, or "Men under general suspicion" or something like that.

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:34:22 PM

[up] Agreed. Double Standard Rape is much more "clean" than the original name yet, still applies to the description.

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:35:00 PM

Abusively Sexy and Abusively Sexy Woman are really Abuse Tropes not Rape Tropes

Going to vote cut off the index.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:35:54 PM by Raso

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:35:18 PM

Double Standard Rape does work out.

As for Divine-on-Mortal and Female-on-Female... any suggestions?

I now go by Graf von Tirol.
Apr 6th 2012 at 2:36:05 PM

Discar: That works. That entire clone family can take those names.

Apr 6th 2012 at 2:36:43 PM

[up][up] There's Discar's suggestion (post 13). It just plainly states what the double standard is, without making it sound like it's good.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:36:52 PM by Nocturna

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:36:52 PM

Rape Is Okay If Its Divine On Mortal does not quite fit the Double Standard Rape family really.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:37:28 PM by Raso

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Apr 6th 2012 at 2:37:25 PM

I can't blame Google for jumping on that

Google did not jump on that. They jumped on explicit stuff.

Anyway, is Double Standard Rape okay with everyone?

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:38:34 PM

[up][up] It implies that the gods can get away with things normal humans wouldn't be allowed to. That's a form of Double Standard.

[up] Discar's version is. I know we're trying to move quickly, but we may want to wait more than a few minutes before conclusively deciding on a rename, though.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:39:37 PM by Nocturna

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:39:12 PM

[up][up][up] We could rename it Double Standard Rape: Divine On Mortal, to fit with the Double Standard Rape: Man On Man example given.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:39:57 PM by deathpigeon

Apr 6th 2012 at 2:39:33 PM

With the Rape Is Okay If Its X On Y thingy out of the way at least for the moment, is Its Not Rape If You Enjoyed It problematic? Discar sort of brought that one up.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:40:09 PM by Arha

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Apr 6th 2012 at 2:40:34 PM

Double Standard Rape: is fine to me for replacing Rape Is Ok When It's. It should be simple enough to trade one snowclone for the other.

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:40:48 PM

[up][up] I think so, probably.

edited 6th Apr '12 2:41:07 PM by Nocturna

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Apr 6th 2012 at 2:41:10 PM

Double Standard Rape definitely sounds like a good name for this.

Alternative Titles: Its Not Rape If You Enjoyed It
5th Jun '12 10:38:57 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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