As far as I can make out (heh), Indecipherable Lyrics is Exactly What It Says On The Tin, while Something Something is about songs famous for having one well-known phrase in a sea of gibberish. Don't know if it's enough of a difference, though.
People also seem to like to trying throwing examples on Mondegreen. I've deleted the misuse, but I promise it happens.
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Something Something Leonard Bernstein is about songs where you can only remember one or two lines.
Indecipherable Lyrics is about songs where you can maybe understand one or two lines if you're lucky.
I didn't write any of that.
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And how is that different? You understand the lyrics you remember; you remember the lyrics you understand.
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Being able to understand what's being sung and knowing the words to a song are often related, but they aren't the same.
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A cleanup should leave every example in Something Something Leonard Bernstein some variation of form "The only words anyone knows in X are YZ." Which is different from Indecipherable Lyrics, whose examples should take the form of "You can't understand any of the lyrics in X."
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"Anyone" is subjective. Thus the difference is subjective.
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Subjective if you like, but they're still different definitions. One is "can't understand the lyrics." The other is "one particular phrase sounds clear."
Looking over the examples in Indecipherable Lyrics, I see several that do have some part recognisable, and would fit in Something Something Leonard Bernstein. If there is a distinction, there shouldn't be any overlap. Or at least, not in those cases.
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Indecipherable Lyrics includes songs where portions are indecipherable.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
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That name seems like a Super-Trope to the other existing tropes.
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I'll admit that I YKTTW'ed this when I didn't know that Something Something Leonard Bernstein existed, and someone launched it before anyone pointed this out.
Merge sounds good to me.
Indecipherable Lyrics sounds like the name of a supertrope to me.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Ravenous Sophovore
Clocking due to lack of activity.
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Crowner Be-Dazzled™ onto thread.
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I voted up, but we shouldn't move all current examples on Indecipherable Lyrics to SSLB, right? Only those that are examples of SSLB.
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Yes. I edited the crowner to read "most" examples rather than all.
Indecipherable Lyrics: Does it happen to the average listener, or someone hard at hearing, or eveyyone who doesn't speak the language of the song.
Ravenous Sophovore
Bumping for votes.
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This trope is too much YMMV for examples. Every song ever written can be this trope to soem people. SSLB is this, to 99% of everybody, not just a few. Cut examples?
This seems to run the risk of running into the same problems as Mondegreen did - but are the examples also bad?
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Calling this in favor of the leading proposal.
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Any progress here?
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Can someone write up a def for the supertrope?
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This trope overlaps a lot with Something Something Leonard Bernstein, with numerous examples appearing on both trope pages.
Apparently the difference is that Indecipherable Lyrics means that most lyrics are understandable and some are not, whereas Something Something Leonard Bernstein means that some lyrics are understandable and most are not. Needless to say, this distinction is subjective, arbitrary, and not at all apparent from the respective trope titles.
Interestingly, Indecipherable Lyrics has a lot of wicks but almost no inbounds, whereas Something Something Leonard Bernstein has numerous inbounds but not a lot of wicks.
We're going to need some cleanup here, and I think we can make a good case for merging the two tropes.
edited 7th Mar '12 4:58:18 PM by Spark9
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!