Fixing zero context examples

Well, it's a trope that thinks Lavender is a weird name and Zorg is normal so I'm not entirely sure what the point of that one is.

The point is that it's "a character needs a name that tells the audience right away how awesome they are, [and] this trope is one way to do it." So the examples need to explain how the name indicates coolness. Some names are distinctive enough to be self-evident, I suppose, like "Desolation Jones" but what's particularly cool about "Coraline Jones"? No context means no idea how the name is supposed to indicate coolness.

edited 15th Nov '12 5:50:48 PM by Madrugada

And people assign it to random background characters. *sighs* My hypothesis rings true.

Do greebles count as tropes?

Depends on what you mean by greebles.

Their presence rarely adds anything to the plot, but it's definitely a conscious design choice. While noting every instance of any greeble is overkill, should we not still have a page defining the term and pointing to various uses of them?

I really don't think this is quite the right thread for this.

Just a brief request.

I like that some of the editors here have commented out or otherwise preserved original work to avoid destructive edits, but could you please provide a link or explanation in the page itself (via \%\% comments, not just in the explanation field of your edit), so that those of us editors who don't spend time on the forums can become familiar with this policy and what needs to be done to improve the page to fit it?

I've added a note to the Wreck It Ralph characters page to explain the condition of the page, where I first encountered this change, but it would be kind if others could do the same to the pages they've edited to help spread the word.

(As for me, I'm going to start going through pages where I frequently contribute to get them ahead of the game on this policy now that I'm aware of it.)

edited 18th Nov '12 7:33:53 AM by Kurtulmak

^Yeah, (s)he's right. People are already uncommenting examples because there is no explanation given in the edit field.

Wait, so what should we do? Move everything to discussion, or comment everything out and leave a comment-note on the page? Which is better?

Comment and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Zero Context Example entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

The Haunted Mansion is FILLED with Zero Context Examples , so can someone help? also, the description needs fixing, because parts of it feel like a review.

^Addressed it.

Commented out What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous? on Fifty Shades of Grey...anyone feel like taking a stab at that one?

Remember that that page is locked so people likely won't see comments. Pulling it to discussion might be better at finding someone who can expand.

Good call; it's done.

Characters.The Chronicles Of Riddick is an excellent example of how to not write a characters page. I can count the examples with real context on one hand. I would fix it myself, but I haven't really seen the films.

Starman Jones (a classic SF novel by Robert A. Heinlein) only has one example that isn't a Zero Context Example—the one I just added. It also needs a description. I haven't read it in years, or I'd take a crack at it.

Sakura Gari character sheet needs help. Most of it lacks context and I know nothing about the series.

^^ As I said over in the Heinlein thread in the Literature subforum, the ZCEs for SJ have been fixed. Still has the description problem, but that's not this thread.

For some strange reason, the majority of the Anime/Manga section on Too Clever by Half (and only that section) has nothing but ZCEs.

edited 8th Dec '12 8:33:11 PM by nrjxll

Expanded what I know. That left only three bad ones, so I pulled them.

William Shakespeare's "sonett" list is basically Made Of Zero Context Example.

Characters.After War Gundam X got it's Zero Context Examples commented out. Someone added some context and uncommented these examples, but many of them are still pretty context-free. What is to do here?

I fixed it back and talked to the offender.