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Comment out Zero Context Examples and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Administrivia/ZeroContextExample entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Edited to be a thread header.

Edited by nombretomado on Mar 3rd 2019 at 6:12:58 AM

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Nov 15th 2012 at 5:22:43 PM

Well, it's a trope that thinks Lavender is a weird name and Zorg is normal so I'm not entirely sure what the point of that one is.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Relationship Status: In season
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Nov 15th 2012 at 5:44:51 PM

The point is that it's "a character needs a name that tells the audience right away how awesome they are, [and] this trope is one way to do it." So the examples need to explain how the name indicates coolness. Some names are distinctive enough to be self-evident, I suppose, like "Desolation Jones" but what's particularly cool about "Coraline Jones"? No context means no idea how the name is supposed to indicate coolness.

edited 15th Nov '12 5:50:48 PM by Madrugada

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Nov 15th 2012 at 8:00:46 PM

And people assign it to random background characters. *sighs* My hypothesis rings true.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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I see the Awesomeness.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Nov 16th 2012 at 8:22:46 PM

Depends on what you mean by greebles.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Nov 16th 2012 at 8:25:23 PM

Their presence rarely adds anything to the plot, but it's definitely a conscious design choice. While noting every instance of any greeble is overkill, should we not still have a page defining the term and pointing to various uses of them?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Nov 16th 2012 at 8:30:31 PM

I really don't think this is quite the right thread for this.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Nov 18th 2012 at 7:32:51 AM

Just a brief request.

I like that some of the editors here have commented out or otherwise preserved original work to avoid destructive edits, but could you please provide a link or explanation in the page itself (via \%\% comments, not just in the explanation field of your edit), so that those of us editors who don't spend time on the forums can become familiar with this policy and what needs to be done to improve the page to fit it?

I've added a note to the Wreck It Ralph characters page to explain the condition of the page, where I first encountered this change, but it would be kind if others could do the same to the pages they've edited to help spread the word.

(As for me, I'm going to start going through pages where I frequently contribute to get them ahead of the game on this policy now that I'm aware of it.)

edited 18th Nov '12 7:33:53 AM by Kurtulmak

SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Nov 24th 2012 at 2:17:07 AM

^Yeah, (s)he's right. People are already uncommenting examples because there is no explanation given in the edit field.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth
Nov 24th 2012 at 11:31:28 AM

Wait, so what should we do? Move everything to discussion, or comment everything out and leave a comment-note on the page? Which is better?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Nov 24th 2012 at 11:33:30 PM

Comment and leave this comment note on the page itself:

%% Zero Context Example entries are not allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Dec 3rd 2012 at 12:18:24 AM

The Haunted Mansion is FILLED with Zero Context Examples , so can someone help? also, the description needs fixing, because parts of it feel like a review.

SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Willbyr Anime-ted from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Dec 3rd 2012 at 9:25:53 AM

Commented out What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous? on Fifty Shades of Grey...anyone feel like taking a stab at that one?

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Dec 3rd 2012 at 10:54:17 AM

Remember that that page is locked so people likely won't see comments. Pulling it to discussion might be better at finding someone who can expand.

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Willbyr Anime-ted from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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videogmer314 from that one place Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Dec 4th 2012 at 10:51:53 PM

Characters.The Chronicles Of Riddick is an excellent example of how to not write a characters page. I can count the examples with real context on one hand. I would fix it myself, but I haven't really seen the films.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Dec 7th 2012 at 2:41:54 AM

Starman Jones (a classic SF novel by Robert A. Heinlein) only has one example that isn't a Zero Context Example—the one I just added. It also needs a description. I haven't read it in years, or I'd take a crack at it.

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Dec 7th 2012 at 7:59:26 AM

Sakura Gari character sheet needs help. Most of it lacks context and I know nothing about the series.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
Dec 7th 2012 at 8:01:14 AM

^^ As I said over in the Heinlein thread in the Literature subforum, the ZCEs for SJ have been fixed. Still has the description problem, but that's not this thread.

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nrjxll Relationship Status: Not war
Dec 8th 2012 at 8:33:00 PM

For some strange reason, the majority of the Anime/Manga section on Too Clever by Half (and only that section) has nothing but ZCEs.

edited 8th Dec '12 8:33:11 PM by nrjxll

lu127 Paper Master from 空蝉丸
Dec 9th 2012 at 1:17:50 AM

Expanded what I know. That left only three bad ones, so I pulled them.

SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
SeptimusHeap from Bern, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Dec 11th 2012 at 1:43:51 AM

Characters.After War Gundam X got it's Zero Context Examples commented out. Someone added some context and uncommented these examples, but many of them are still pretty context-free. What is to do here?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Dec 11th 2012 at 7:38:09 AM

I fixed it back and talked to the offender.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

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